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Post by bobc on Jun 9, 2009 10:44:09 GMT -5
YES!!! Now finally someone is talking sense!
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Post by bobc on Jun 9, 2009 10:34:46 GMT -5
well I guess it depends on the criteria these guys were using. Granted the Joker is a big fat zero in the power dept, but I think if you went on the street and asked the average person on the street to name a comic villain, most would say Joker. On the other hand, if the criteria is which villain has had the most drastic effect on the shaping of comic events over the years, it'd be hard to argue against Doctor Doom or Magneto.
I wanna say here that I think Magneto is a fantastic character! If I had to pick a personal favorite villain, he'd be way up there. But when it comes to the overall effect a villain has had, I would put Doctor Doom at the top of the list. Doom has had run-ins with EVERYBODY, from the FF to the Avengers to the X-Men to the Black Panther and Namor. Magneto has too, kind of, but I think most comic fans would say he is pretty much an X-Men villain in the same sense they'd say the Joker is a Batman villain.
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Post by bobc on Jun 9, 2009 8:48:10 GMT -5
I am admiring my own restraint right now.
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Post by bobc on Jun 9, 2009 8:44:53 GMT -5
I thought Joker would be number one too. I don't really wanna criticize this list since it is just personal opinion--but I would have put Kang in the top ten for sure--and the Enchantress, Executioner and Count Nefaria would be in the top 50 too. I'm just no as familiar with DC villains.
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Post by bobc on Jun 9, 2009 8:42:15 GMT -5
I do videogames for a living. I would pit the Avengers vs the masters of evil and make it a multi-player
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Post by bobc on Jun 8, 2009 21:31:51 GMT -5
Ultron--I think you and I are brothers separated at birth--I loved Avengers Annual 10!! I think mainly due to the art, which was so weird and cool at the time, and the fact that there were so many battles! I also loved the bit about Spider-woman catching Carole when she jumped off the bridge--the art showed the limitations of SW's flying ability and was really striking to me. Also--the Scarlet Witch came off as truly impressive in terms of power, and the Beast was really funny. This annual, if I recall correctly, came in one of those dull eras of Avengers history, and it really stood out. I don't even think I read the pages where Carole got whiny and self-pitying about what happened to her--at that point I was so tired of the X-Men and their constant whining that I just skipped it. Don't get me wrong--I was a huge fan of the new (at the time) X_Men, but after a couple of years the group fell into a rut of endless useless self-examination, dreary fatalism and boredom.
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Post by bobc on Jun 8, 2009 21:18:47 GMT -5
I wouldn't want to live forever. I'm already bored at age 42. But Thor would be a good pick because nobody could really hurt you--plus you could make money controlling the weather.
Beta--I think the Invisible Woman's force field could blow open a bank vault door! So just relax and use your powers for self-enrichment and evil, just like me!
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Post by bobc on Jun 8, 2009 18:19:00 GMT -5
NORMAN OSBOURNE? oh puhleeeze
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Post by bobc on Jun 8, 2009 18:08:15 GMT -5
Very cool link--I guessed the top 3 correctly but got them in the wrong order. I'm a little surprised Magneto was ahead of Doctor Doom and the Joker!
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Post by bobc on Jun 8, 2009 13:17:33 GMT -5
I haven't read the new Hercules series. Sounds like once again Marvel has thrown its history into the dumpster. Sad. Hercules was a great character--particularly during the 80's John Buscema era. His clashes with Namor and the Wasp were priceless.
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Post by bobc on Jun 8, 2009 13:03:42 GMT -5
Starfoxx sounds like Bendis' latest work was worth every penny.
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Post by bobc on Jun 8, 2009 12:52:05 GMT -5
Humanbelly--didn't Rage come out after the LA riots? I seem to remember that being the reason I hated the character from the start--he just seemed like cheap exploitation.
Beta--when was the Sandman an Avenger? I missed that completely. Must have happened in one of those eras when I just skimmed stories due to badness. Why would the Sandman be an Avenger?
OMIGOD--The Sentry is probably the worst Avenger ever, mainly because everyone acted like he was going to be the next Big Thing--and he fell flat like everything else Miss Bendis gets his sausage links on. The character has just lain there like a bored hooker for five years. I never guessed that a guy who possessed the power of "a million exploding suns" could be so mind--numbingly dull.
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Post by bobc on Jun 8, 2009 8:33:49 GMT -5
That's a good question DL--I honestly can't recall where Dr Doom got his time machine from but it seems like he's had since virtually the beginning.
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Post by bobc on Jun 5, 2009 11:10:26 GMT -5
I have a question--I've only read two Mighty Avengers but has Hercules been seriously depowered or something? I just noticed he seemed scared to fight the Thing and so that leads me to believe he's not the same Hercules I usta know...
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Post by bobc on Jun 5, 2009 11:06:27 GMT -5
I agree, Starry. I haven't been knocked out by Mighty Avengers but at least the characters are recognizable. I cannot follow any of the Osbourne crap however--is it just me or does he seem to be shoved into every Marvel comic for no apparent reason?
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Post by bobc on Jun 5, 2009 9:08:04 GMT -5
You're so sweet Sharkar--you are very kind to a talentless hack like myself. I have never been to a comic con. Could you imagine if I ran into Bendis at one? I would pray to Allah, Vishnu and Odin to keep my tongue still, but it would be too tempting.
I never thought about being paranoid over getting stuck at wasp size--that never once occurred to me. But I would be very paranoid about having the ability to fly! What if it konked out? I'd fly very close to the ground.
This is embarrassing, but I have had many, many dreams where I was a member of the X-Men or Avengers, but I knew I didn't have any powers. I'd always be paranoid that the other members would find out I was a fraud! Just like at work!
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Post by bobc on Jun 4, 2009 12:41:29 GMT -5
I just bought the latest issue of Black Panther. It was excellent. Must say.
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Post by bobc on Jun 3, 2009 15:31:15 GMT -5
But how else would I get the fortune I so richly deserve? And after I enriched myself, I would use Sue's powers to make Bendis and all of his work vanish.
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Post by bobc on Jun 3, 2009 14:33:52 GMT -5
Ironic man--I refuse to take the Bendis bait--it's too fat and greasy! I'd gag!
Sorry Humanbelly--apparently you don't know me very well or you'd have known my moral compass points straight to hell. My friends call me Loki for short. Of course I'd use my powers for evil. I pick the Invisible Woman's powers--that way I could sneak in anywhere and take whatever I pleased. AND my force field would stop the spray of gunfire from the authorities. Eventually when I was apprehended (but before my public execution) I would go on Dr. Phil and get cheesy psychiatric treatment.
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Post by bobc on Jun 3, 2009 13:03:08 GMT -5
Hee hee--I would definitely use my powers for evil and self-enrichment.
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Post by bobc on Jun 3, 2009 9:18:19 GMT -5
Ironic Man--for me, each of these five characters have abilities that could make you very wealthy, and that's why I chose them, really. Someone like Thor could control the weather so he could end droughts anywhere--and that would make him a fortune. The Wasp, the Vision and Invisible Girl could make a fortune as spies or espionage persons. They could also rob banks. And being able to read minds could make a person really wealthy but I'd never pick Moondragon. I'd never want to know how people really think about me--I'm happy in my own little dreamworld!
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Post by bobc on Jun 3, 2009 9:01:46 GMT -5
Right you are, Sharky. I remember that exchange between the Beast and BP, HP and TS. But please don't remind me of happier times when comics actually had story-lines and recognizable characters--remember that Bendis has me teetering on the abyss already, and you wouldn't want to be responsible for my next mental collapse.
Fun Fact:
More inventions by T'Challa!! The Black Panther designed The Falcon's wings too!
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Post by bobc on Jun 2, 2009 15:04:40 GMT -5
Yeah Bendis needs to keep his chubby chimp claws offa Thor. Man I would love to put Bendis on a life boat and send him off to SEE YOU LATER!
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Post by bobc on Jun 2, 2009 14:30:37 GMT -5
Okay total nerd alert fan boy question--If you could have one of the five below Avenger's powers in real life, which would you choose:
1. The Vision
2. The Wasp
3. Moondragon
4. Invisible Woman
5. Thor
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Post by bobc on Jun 2, 2009 10:04:32 GMT -5
Right Sharky--I was going to point that issue out too. And don't forget that in the 80's when Byrne had the Beast in the Avengers, the Beast felt over-shadowed as scientist by Tony Stark and T'Challa, even though he probably was just as smart.
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Post by bobc on Jun 1, 2009 15:46:30 GMT -5
I can't believe I forgot that HP invented Ultron. I'm so John Buscema.
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Post by bobc on Jun 1, 2009 13:25:25 GMT -5
I am one of the five dumbest posters. Reed Richards is in MENSA--I'm in DENSA.
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Post by bobc on Jun 1, 2009 11:04:50 GMT -5
I never saw Dr Doom as very smart for some reason. I also have never really followed the Hulk to see how smart Bruce Banner was/is.
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Post by bobc on Jun 1, 2009 9:55:00 GMT -5
So who is considered the smartest Marvel character? I'd guess Reed Richards--correct? I'd put him above the Panther because of snazzy inventions like the portal to the Negative Zone. I'd put the Panther around Tony Stark's level although BP never concentrated on weapons as Tony Stark did (Richards never really did either).
It's kinda hard to compare somebody like Hank Pym to Reed or BP because Hank was a biologist and really brilliant in that regard, obviously, but he didn't invent many weapons or other technology. I'd put Hank way up there though in terms of intelligence.
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Post by bobc on May 29, 2009 15:55:45 GMT -5
Shiryu and Tana--yeah T'Challa is definitely on a level with Reed Richards and Tony Stark. One of the things that attracted me to the character was the immense underground metal jungle that the FF flew into on their first trip to Wakanda. To this day, with all the hack, well-worn industry cliches having been driven into the ground, that mechanized jungle is still a completely original concept. I found it astonishing. Still do! And T'Challa invented that stuff and he also created the Avenger's quinjet and a ton of other stuff.
I know you are thinking I am biased, and I am, but I think BP is in Marvel's top 5 geniuses.
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