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Post by starfoxxx on May 13, 2009 12:24:39 GMT -5
A review of Mighty Avengers #24 (I'm not sure if it's been reviewed in another thread)
Again, Mighty is not living up to my expectations, but it's decent, and Slott so far is waaaaaaay better than the Secret Invasion crap appearing in Mighty before.
Slott's stories have been good, not great, but at least we have a team of super-heroes (Avengers, at that), who battle Super-villains. That formula works for me.
And while I believe that Khoi Pham's style hampered Slott's story, this is not the case with new artist Sandoval. I can't complain, at least everyone's recognizable, if sometimes ugly (ie. Stature), but the art is overall OK, if forgettable. The colors are very nicely done.
IMHO, both Avengers books I'm currently reading, Mighty and Initiative, are being hurt by the underlying Norman Osborn/Dark Avengers storyline. It's too bad Slott and Gage have to include that mess.
7.5
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Post by bobc on Jun 5, 2009 11:06:27 GMT -5
I agree, Starry. I haven't been knocked out by Mighty Avengers but at least the characters are recognizable. I cannot follow any of the Osbourne crap however--is it just me or does he seem to be shoved into every Marvel comic for no apparent reason?
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Post by bobc on Jun 5, 2009 11:10:26 GMT -5
I have a question--I've only read two Mighty Avengers but has Hercules been seriously depowered or something? I just noticed he seemed scared to fight the Thing and so that leads me to believe he's not the same Hercules I usta know...
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Post by starfoxxx on Jun 6, 2009 10:02:36 GMT -5
I have a question--I've only read two Mighty Avengers but has Hercules been seriously depowered or something? I just noticed he seemed scared to fight the Thing and so that leads me to believe he's not the same Hercules I usta know... I'm not sure about any depowering, but it's just not the same Hercules. Ever since Herc took over the INCREDIBLE title, his character has been way off, IMO. And i've never been a big fan of "little kid" sidekicks, so Amodeus Cho is a big waste of time, IMO. They should bring back his old Recorder sidekick, and maybe Jocasta could have a romance with "him". Nevertheless, I miss the old Hercules. I would think he would be an easy character to write, but the new writers haven't done their research, IMHO. |
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Post by betaraybill on Jun 7, 2009 22:49:31 GMT -5
I re-read the latest arc, and I'm still basking in the "new-direction" glow.
If you haven't read it yet, bellow is spoiler stuff... avert yon gaze, por favor....
The Quicksilver ripple is very, very good. Not only his media fib, but the risk he poses to a certain arch enemy. While others are fooled he certainly won't be.
I'm still getting used to Vision's teen persona, but good grief it's good to see him active again (although, really, he hasn't done anything especially Vision-ey.
I think the only reason Cassie hasn't dislodged me from new team is her relationship to Hank. "Uncle Hank" is kind of a neat thing to see in the heat of the battle, though I can't figure why he'd put her in harms way by having her on the team. The Avengers go up against the baddest in the universe.
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Post by Shiryu on Jun 8, 2009 4:04:12 GMT -5
I've read the new stories too and I have mixed feelings for the moment. Some things I really like, others so so (there's something in the writing that seems dispersive, albeit not as much as Bendis).
I will stick to it for the time being, after all most Avengers' writers need some warming up.
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Post by Doctor Bong on Jun 8, 2009 5:06:47 GMT -5
I re-read the latest arc, and I'm still basking in the "new-direction" glow. If you haven't read it yet, bellow is spoiler stuff... avert yon gaze, por favor.... The Quicksilver ripple is very, very good. Not only his media fib, but the risk he poses to a certain arch enemy. While others are fooled he certainly won't be. I'm still getting used to Vision's teen persona, but good grief it's good to see him active again (although, really, he hasn't done anything especially Vision-ey. I think the only reason Cassie hasn't dislodged me from new team is her relationship to Hank. "Uncle Hank" is kind of a neat thing to see in the heat of the battle, though I can't figure why he'd put her in harms way by having her on the team. The Avengers go up against the baddest in the universe. I guess the Avengers who came after Disassembled don't go anymore by their old rule of accepting only legal adults as their members. I remember Rage was kicked out from the team for this reason. |
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Post by bobc on Jun 8, 2009 13:17:33 GMT -5
I haven't read the new Hercules series. Sounds like once again Marvel has thrown its history into the dumpster. Sad. Hercules was a great character--particularly during the 80's John Buscema era. His clashes with Namor and the Wasp were priceless.
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Post by starfoxxx on Jun 8, 2009 15:28:55 GMT -5
I guess the Avengers who came after Disassembled don't go anymore by their old rule of accepting only legal adults as their members. I remember Rage was kicked out from the team for this reason. Good point, Bong. And I wish Jarvis would remind them of this "old rule", as IMO, Stature (man, what a weak name.....) and Amodeus Cho are HUGE wastes of space that drag Mighty Avengers down. |
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Post by Wonder Man 2 on Jun 9, 2009 9:03:50 GMT -5
A lot of people are dissing Cassie, and while she could use a new code-name, I see alot of potinal for her, so long as she frinds a way to set up her own iddenity and not be type cast as another Giant Girl. Also, I'm wondering why Hank id carring aroung that Sting-Gun, instead of using Sting-Gloves, like he did as Ant-Man and Yellow Jacket. Also, Marvel is making it pretty obvious that the Mighty Avengers are going to come to blows with the Dark Avengers fairly soon, I think that might actually be a mistake as it makes the Dark Avengers look really lame, which might hurt the book's sales (The Dark Avengers' book, I mean). Last, while I am glad to see Hank and USAgent back on the same team again, it's makeing my wounder if Marvel is trying to basically bring back the AWC line up. Not that, that is a bad thing mind you, I just wonder if the time is right for it.
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Post by Doctor Bong on Jun 9, 2009 9:21:42 GMT -5
A lot of people are dissing Cassie, and while she could use a new code-name, I see alot of potinal for her, so long as she frinds a way to set up her own iddenity and not be type cast as another Giant Girl. Also, I'm wondering why Hank id carring aroung that Sting-Gun, instead of using Sting-Gloves, like he did as Ant-Man and Yellow Jacket. Also, Marvel is making it pretty obvious that the Mighty Avengers are going to come to blows with the Dark Avengers fairly soon, I think that might actually be a mistake as it makes the Dark Avengers look really lame, which might hurt the book's sales (The Dark Avengers' book, I mean). Last, while I am glad to see Hank and USAgent back on the same team again, it's makeing my wounder if Marvel is trying to basically bring back the AWC line up. Not that, that is a bad thing mind you, I just wonder if the time is right for it. Well, since the Dark Avengers have Bullseye and Venom posing as Hawkeye and Spider-Man, wouldn't it make more sense for the New Avengers to go after them...? |
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Post by Wonder Man 2 on Jun 9, 2009 10:31:12 GMT -5
A lot of people are dissing Cassie, and while she could use a new code-name, I see alot of potinal for her, so long as she frinds a way to set up her own iddenity and not be type cast as another Giant Girl. Also, I'm wondering why Hank id carring aroung that Sting-Gun, instead of using Sting-Gloves, like he did as Ant-Man and Yellow Jacket. Also, Marvel is making it pretty obvious that the Mighty Avengers are going to come to blows with the Dark Avengers fairly soon, I think that might actually be a mistake as it makes the Dark Avengers look really lame, which might hurt the book's sales (The Dark Avengers' book, I mean). Last, while I am glad to see Hank and USAgent back on the same team again, it's makeing my wounder if Marvel is trying to basically bring back the AWC line up. Not that, that is a bad thing mind you, I just wonder if the time is right for it. Well, since the Dark Avengers have Bullseye and Venom posing as Hawkeye and Spider-Man, wouldn't it make more sense for the New Avengers to go after them...? Exactly, which is just another reason why I think it's a bad idea for Marvel to be setting up this "grudge match", in the first place. I say let it be the New Avengers vs the Dark Avenger for now, and let's have the Mighty Avengers focuse on other threats, maybe like Count Nefearius or Graviton, some villains we haven't seen in a while. That way, it won't seem like the three books are tied together or depended on each other. Just my two cents, though. |
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Post by Shiryu on Jun 9, 2009 10:34:19 GMT -5
I think NA vs DA is actually more likely at the moment, given what Hawkeye said on tv, but the MA probably have more raw power to fight them. Sentry, Ares, Bullseye and Venom make quite a strong group, and the NA don't have heavyweights besides Cage.
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Post by Doctor Bong on Jun 9, 2009 14:40:23 GMT -5
I think NA vs DA is actually more likely at the moment, given what Hawkeye said on tv, but the MA probably have more raw power to fight them. Sentry, Ares, Bullseye and Venom make quite a strong group, and the NA don't have heavyweights besides Cage. I hope my question doesn't fall into the "spoilers" cathegory but, is Ms. Marvel (I mean Carol Danvers) actually dead...? Wasn't she hanging with the NA...? |
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Post by spiderwasp on Jun 9, 2009 21:40:59 GMT -5
I have a question--I've only read two Mighty Avengers but has Hercules been seriously depowered or something? I just noticed he seemed scared to fight the Thing and so that leads me to believe he's not the same Hercules I usta know... I've just reread MA #25. What exactly are you referring to? I saw no evidence of Hercules being scared. The lines he spoke regarding the battle were "The Prince of Power craves battle! Excitement! Labors!," "Oh, you'll be dying, all right," and "The ruse is working. Grimm is more than distracted, he is Hell-bent on my destruction. Your plan is working, Pym--assuming any of us lives through it!" The closest thing I saw to fear was that last line but I I thought that was just more of off-handed thought than fear, especially since he is rushing into battle as it says it. I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just not sure I understand the comment. Moving on. I've said this before and I'll say it again. I want to love this book but I just can't. I don't dislike it and I'm no where close to dropping it but I just don't love it. The battle that was set up in this issue was just so "set up." It didn't even make sense. When Reed said that Bill Foster left the doohickey to Ben in his will, Hank countered with "The device was left to me. But I wasn't Earth at the time, because you--because I'd been replaced by a Skrull. It went to Ben by default." Surely I'm not the only one to see the faulty logic here. No one knew Hank had been replaced until the very end of the Invasion, at which point the real Hank returned. When Bill died, if the doohickey was left to Hank it would have gone to Skrull-Hank, not Ben. I also hated seeing the "Bendisey" thought bubbles that had Quicksilver calling Hank an "Incompetent twit" and "Idiot." I know Pietro has always had an attitude but do we really need him and Reed adding to the list of people showing inexplicable hostility toward Hank. I mean, long after any of the previous breakdowns Pietro (In WCA) went to Hank as the person he trusted to know that he was really only pretending to be with Magneto and a then crazed Wanda. Slott has always been such a good writer but I'm starting to feel like he's trying to be another Bendis. God help us. |
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Post by Wonder Man 2 on Jun 10, 2009 9:35:51 GMT -5
Another Bendis?! *finds hole, crawls in, and preys to servive*
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Post by bobc on Jun 10, 2009 13:35:37 GMT -5
SW--yeah I was talking about that last line. Maybe I misinterpreted it, but the Hercules I used to know never worried about surviving fighting anybody.
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