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Post by bobc on Feb 3, 2010 14:28:07 GMT -5
I think The Black Panther and Captain America reborn are really great books coming out of Marvel--but I am having more and more trouble finding anything else very interesting. Since I am gloriously wealthy, the price increase wouldn't bother me much if the quality was there. But it ain't.
It pains me to my very soul to admit this, but my hero, Mark Millar, has fallen. His new Avengers stuff just ain't doing it for me. A Red Wasp? Come on. I have also come to the conclusion that Millar without Hitch is like Mick Jagger without Kieth Richards. Hitch's work on Cap reborn is beautiful.
I am also getting very weary of these epic battle scenes on covers, and opening the comic to find zero action. Fortunately I have grown smarter and open the comic in the store before purchasing any false advertisement.
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Post by bobc on Feb 3, 2010 11:30:22 GMT -5
You're probably right Mich (don't have the books in front of me). I've been collecting the Avengers since I was a kid in the mid 70's and it is a fact that quality went up and down and up and down over the years, needless to say. But as I was reading the latest Essential Avengers edition, I was really enjoying revisiting those old stories up until the Graviton storyline. What made it even worse is the fact that I incorrectly thought this Graviton story was the later Graviton story, which really kicked azz. This later Graviton storyline was in a great Avengers era with great art by John Byrne, before he went bonkers.
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Post by bobc on Feb 1, 2010 13:33:54 GMT -5
The new Essential Avengers edition is out now (yay!) and this early Graviton issue is in it. I agree that the story sucked. I barely remembered it from years ago but now that I re-read it, I know why! I don't have the book in front of me now--but this Graviton story seems incredibly weak compared to the great stuff that came immediately before it, when Hellcat joined the team. Was this a different writer or something? Things really pick up again afterwards though.
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Post by bobc on Dec 19, 2009 10:36:35 GMT -5
If Bendis is the prize, I'm not taking the quiz.
It is obvious Bendis knew next to nothing about the Avengers when he took it over.
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Post by bobc on Dec 15, 2009 14:27:14 GMT -5
Every one of those covers is a knock out. JB's inability to draw an awkward pose has never been more obvious. Most comic artists have what we call a "catalog of poses" which they use over and over again. Not JB!! Every single pose had nuance and ease--that guy was just unbelievable. Even the guys I work with in the games field, those who aren't even much into comics, know and admire John Buscema.
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Post by bobc on Dec 2, 2009 12:16:58 GMT -5
Never have an affair. If you do, your relationship will never be the same.
Congratulations, Woodsy.
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Post by bobc on Nov 30, 2009 15:02:02 GMT -5
I have to say I am surprised at the hoopla my comment about "kissing a girl" has created. There was a Saturday Night Live skit back in the 90's where Captain Kirk asks the guys at a Star Trek convention if they'd ever kissed a girl, and they just looked away in shame. I was just making a joke.
Listen, I collect comics, make video games for a living, and go fossil hunting every weekend. It's hard to get much nerdier than that!
I also collect figurines but only if they are really well done--and this Ant Man figurine fits the bill.
And yes kissing a girl is over-rated. Goats on the other hand...
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Post by bobc on Nov 18, 2009 10:44:36 GMT -5
Star--I have the same problem when I go to the comic store--can't even bring myself to buy more than 2 or three comics, if that.
The last four or five issues of the Black Panther have been so good I am actually excited to see the next issue, which is something I haven't experienced in a while. Even if you aren't a big Panther fan, the book is worth it for the guest stars alone (Sub-Mariner and Dr Doom, for instance). Another great thing about BP is the fact that it isn't mired at all with all the garbage that's going on in the rest of the Marvel Cluster F. It is very much it's own book so you don't need to read five hundred other comics to know what's going on.
Hope you like it, my friend.
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Post by bobc on Nov 16, 2009 15:30:54 GMT -5
Are you daring to suggest the Red Skull would have worked better than Osbourne? That is just crazy talk.
Glad somebody here is open to new books!
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Post by bobc on Nov 13, 2009 10:12:53 GMT -5
I agree Wanda is number two
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Post by bobc on Nov 12, 2009 16:38:19 GMT -5
I realize nobody cares, but is anyone reading Captain America Reborn and the Black Panther? Both of these books are BLOWING ME AWAY. Both actually have exciting, action-packed stories that are coherent and fascinating. The art in both is fantastic too. Please guys--give these books a chance. They are Marvel at its BEST!!!
The new writer on BP actually has Dr Doom using mechanized insects as weapons--something I put in my graphic novel in 2003.
PS I am not saying any of this because the Panther is my favorite Avenger--I've hated most of his solo stuff. This book is about the best thing Marvel is putting out now IMO.
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Post by bobc on Nov 12, 2009 16:30:19 GMT -5
Well not to feed into the insanity/stupidity, but the Vision was never born, so I am trying to figure out how he could suddenly be a teenager. Sigh. That is just stupid. Even for bad comics.
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Post by bobc on Nov 12, 2009 13:34:17 GMT -5
I'm with ya, my brutha. I work with the biggest introverts in the world (not all, but a large percentage). I can't lecture them because I look like the guy who beat them up in high school. In fact, I've really had to tone down my personality so as to not scare anybody.
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Post by bobc on Nov 11, 2009 18:25:54 GMT -5
No HB--most have never kissed a girl. Or even a goat.
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Post by bobc on Nov 11, 2009 14:40:28 GMT -5
Okay--let me define the term "Most Improved" as the Avenger who grew to be a major asset to the team, from meager beginnings. I meant in a battle sense, not in the sense of character development.
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Post by bobc on Nov 10, 2009 17:16:16 GMT -5
Hey join the club HB! I doubt anyone here could point the finger! I'm the same way with the Avengers, prior to say issue #130 or so.
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Post by bobc on Nov 10, 2009 15:40:55 GMT -5
Hey--I make video games for a living and don't play them at all. I think they are a waste of time. But I do care about doing my best work on the games I help develop.
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Post by bobc on Nov 10, 2009 14:47:41 GMT -5
I loved the improvements in the Wasp! It came slowly over decades so it seemed like a natural progression. Remember Jan was under age when she first met Hank Pym, so maturing and eventually becoming a real force in the Avengers doesn't seem far-fetched to me. After reading those early Ant Man stories --it got really, really old that the Wasp was captured every issue. Jan was still slightly flighty (hey! that rhymes!) when her powers got revamped by Byrne, so I think it's reasonable to conclude that her power ramp-up gave her increased confidence.
Re: Pietro--I put him in the same category as Namor--they make any group more interesting because of the mixture of nobility and arrogance, hero and villain, etc. But most improved? Not in the sense I meant when I started this thread, but I can see the argument. He certainly got more interesting over the decades.
I'd put pre-Bendis Wanda near the top of the Most Improved list as well. Did you all know (I know HB already knows) that the first appearance of Wanda's "hex sphere" was in the Hulk, not the Avengers?
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Post by bobc on Nov 10, 2009 14:27:58 GMT -5
HB--I work with guys whose entire cubicles are packed with hundreds of statues like this. The fad seems to be fading a bit--but people think they are cool and feel they'll be worth a lot of money some day. A collector's item kinda thang. I have figurines of my beloved Black Panther, Medusa, the Silver Surfer, Galactus and the Scarlet Witch. I only buy the ones that I think are really well done. I'll probably get this Ant Man guy.
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Post by bobc on Nov 9, 2009 12:30:21 GMT -5
That statute is COOL
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Post by bobc on Nov 9, 2009 9:23:58 GMT -5
I love what Bendis has done with Spiderwoman.
I just said that to be annoying. Did it work?
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Post by bobc on Nov 9, 2009 9:21:40 GMT -5
Hi HB--people in video games want to do comics, and people in comics want to do video games. The grass is always greener. I'm not against artists doing it "just for the paycheck" since John Buscema could be accused of that--but at least bring talent and hard work to the table.
Hey--have you guys played my game Ghostbusters? It came out in June.
Anyway--re: CA becoming Iron Man. It's bound to happen. Everything at Marvel is such a disjointed, convoluted mess right now that it's about the only bad plot device they haven't foisted upon us.
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Post by bobc on Nov 7, 2009 17:54:15 GMT -5
Sorry I didn't see this until now. Not to be a jerk, but the drawing is really stiff, and amateurish. CA's eyes convey zero emotion--in fact, it is impossible to know what CA is supposed to be feeling by looking at that illustration. He looks like a deer caught in the headlights--or more like a walleye flopping around in a net.
That being said, the coloring here is just perfect! Perfectly WRONG. Muddy, overly complicated--it is impossible to tell what you are supposed to be focusing on. What's with the rock texture on the wall? It just adds to the confusion on this (I'm assuming) cover.
This is a perfect example of two things:
1. A newbie artist who learned how to draw from looking at comics, rather than studying real human anatomy.
2. The Everything But the Kitchen Sink approach to coloring. Less is more, usually. Remember that thread where people picked their favorite covers? Well most were simple and direct, as it should be. A simple image draws your eye in a sea of clutter.
Yeah this drawing is bad, but the coloring is the real disaster.
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Post by bobc on Nov 7, 2009 17:38:37 GMT -5
Hey HB! Where is the Cap thread?
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Post by bobc on Nov 6, 2009 14:05:46 GMT -5
Hey guys--and this is a thread for us old-timers--
Which Avenger, over the years, gets the Most Improved Player award?
I pick the Wasp, hands down. I recently purchased The Essential Ant Man edition, and I swear to God the Wasp gets kidnapped virtually every issue. I am not exaggerating. Just off the top of my head, in that volume and the first Essential Avengers volume, the Wasp was captured by The Human Top, Masters of Evil, Porcupine, Enchantress, Madame Macabre, Count Nefaria, Attuma, my GOD the list goes on and on. She was even bested by a fly swatter made of webbing, a spray can of DDT, a sparrow, and even lost a fight to a bumble bee. It got so bad that in one issue, Jan is actually captured off-screen (can't recall who got her that time--there were so many times I get confused) and they don't even bother showing how.
So basically, the Wasp was a complete liability for the first few years of her tenure at Marvel.
John Byrne, of course, ramped up Jan's powers considerably in Marvel Team-Up in the 80's, and in that same decade she came into her own as a leader and a fighter in the Avengers. But in those first few years, she was basically just kidnap bait.
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Post by bobc on Oct 23, 2009 9:20:41 GMT -5
Tom Palmer is one of my idols. His work with Big John B on the Avengers in the late 60's is unsurpassed, IMO. I wouldn't probably be a comic fan today if not for those two. Tom''s inking made the "mysterious" Avengers (Vision, Black Panther, Black Knight) look cool and mysterious (not to be redundant) and he made the female Avengers look more beautiful than ever--particularly the Scarlet Witch. I am happy he is still working.
Scott I agree with you about the Hulk--just personal opinion. I always liked him best when he was just wandering around, getting into trouble. I could never really get into his slo book for some reason. I bought one of the Hulk Essential Editions, and liked it okay, but I just prefer team books.
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Post by bobc on Oct 23, 2009 9:12:34 GMT -5
uhhhhh who is "anti-modern era?" Not me!! I happen to love Mark Millar and think newer artists like David Finch and Bryan Hitch are two of the greatest comic artists of all time.
I love comics past but don't live there. I despise Bendis and I'd have despised him if he came out in 1964.
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Post by bobc on Oct 23, 2009 9:06:46 GMT -5
Oh no!
I was never a big fan of Tuska's art, but he was one of the staples of Silver Age Marvel. Likewise he'll always have my respect. Goodbye, George.
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Post by bobc on Oct 22, 2009 15:52:43 GMT -5
Yeah--those shoes are hard to fill.
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Post by bobc on Aug 21, 2009 6:28:32 GMT -5
It's already out--I saw it at Austin Books last night. They also had a (I'm assuming)new hardcover collection of Amazing Adventures, featuring the Black Widow and the Inhumans. I almost bought both of them but opted instead for the new Essential Marvel Team Up paperback, mainly because it has the issues where the Wasp gets her powers seriously improved.
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