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Post by bobc on Oct 27, 2014 14:26:28 GMT -5
I remember that--the George Perez years!
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Post by bobc on Oct 27, 2014 8:07:09 GMT -5
I'm psyched! Can't wait to see the Vision and Wanda and Pietro!
But Spiderwasp--are you sure the Wasp is going to be in the Ant-man movie? I haven't seen anything about her being in it, in fact I've read that a lot of Marvel fans are upset that there was no sign of her in any of the blurbs about the Ant-man movie. I certainly don't know one way or the other, but it seems like Ant-man without the Wasp is a bad idea. I hope she's in it--she's one of my favorite Avengers. In fact, I'd have preferred her to the Black Widow in the first Avengers movie (although BW ended up being fantastic--especially that first scene where she appears to be captured for interrogation and winds up completely turning the tables).
Rumors are flying that Whedon is setting up an "Easter egg" for the Black Panther coming in Avengers 3! If I see that in A2, I will bellow "YES!!!!!!!" to my startled fellow movie-goers! As people quietly get up and move away...
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Post by bobc on Oct 25, 2014 11:05:11 GMT -5
Hey Guys--the most memorable male moment that jumps into my head is the Vision, when offered Simon Williams' human body if he'd help the Reaper kill the Avengers, and that last panel where the Vision just says "yes." Classic, classic cliff-hanger. I remember as a kid being shocked that the Vision was going to stab the Avengers in the back, and I couldn't wait for the next issue to see what happens!! I think this happened in Avengers 102.
And let's not forget Antman going into the Vision's body in Avengers #93 (amazing art from Neal Adams. Antman never looked better!
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Post by bobc on Sept 8, 2014 18:11:19 GMT -5
Hey Foxy--I don't have the issue in front of me but it's the latest one. The previous art was good, not amazing, but the new stuff is 7th grade artist hoping-to-make-Marvel. It is just horrible. I'd love to comment on the story but the art just turned me off to the story.
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Post by bobc on Sept 6, 2014 18:41:40 GMT -5
I just picked up the latest Uncanny Avengers and I have to say it has the most god-awful art I have ever seen in a comic book. Whoever this artist is, he makes Rob Lifield look like Vincent Van Gogh.There is one drawing of the Scarlet Witch screaming which is, without question, the worst drawing I have ever seen in a comic book. Look at the panel where Wanda says to Rogue "You have to calm down..." It is astonishingly awful! I hate to be a jerk, but paying $4.00 for a comic that previously had pretty good art in it really rankles me. It's like a mix of craptastic Anime and really, really badly drawn anatomy. Remember how Lifield couldn't draw feet to save his life? Well this guy cannot draw hands. The hands look like little pointy sticks and I couldn't help but notice that he does his best to avoid drawing them. My GOD the art borders on CAMP!!! Consider yourselves warned.
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Post by bobc on Aug 30, 2014 7:56:24 GMT -5
I usually go alone mainly because I discovered that if you go to the 10 am shows,there are almost never any people other than me in the audience. Win!!!
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Post by bobc on Aug 27, 2014 18:40:00 GMT -5
I liked it.
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Post by bobc on Aug 24, 2014 11:36:59 GMT -5
That was a real standout issue, Marv. I thought the art was fantastic and am still surprised that guy didn't go on to become really big. I think he did The Micronauts but after that I don't think I ever heard from him again.
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Post by bobc on Aug 22, 2014 14:48:33 GMT -5
Stripperella? Huh?
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Post by bobc on Aug 20, 2014 7:56:45 GMT -5
Not to be "ants at a picnic," but the Wasp's worst moment IMO was when the Avengers fought the Sub-Mariner back in the 60's. Jan attacked him and thought to herself something to the effect of "Talk about wishful thinking--I hit him with everything I've got and all I got out of it was a bent stinger." And, indeed, her "sting" was just a needle on a wrist band and it was bent! Now maybe I'm crazy, but you don't go up against the Sub-Mariner with what amounts to a glorified push pin as a weapon! You're just asking for it! The Wasp has come a long way since those days.
Hey, speaking of, which female character do you guys think has come the furthest since her beginning few years? For me it's a toss up between the Wasp and Scarlet Witch, with the Invisible Girl/Woman coming in at 3rd place. My GOD she was useless in the beginning--she was kidnapped almost every issue! I was reading one of the early Essential FF editions that had the first twenty something issues all put together, and I was laughing at how often Sue was taken prisoner! The Wasp was also kidnapping bait for several years.
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Post by bobc on Aug 18, 2014 17:10:08 GMT -5
Hey--no one has ever accused me of being good with dates! I stand corrected! But was I right about the Enchantress/SW fight being in an Annual? I think it was in the one you mentioned.Anyway--the first Avengers I recall buying was #102, which featured the Vision being offered the body of Simon Williams. I still think that was a great storyline. I really started seriously collecting the Avengers with issue #105.
Back to favorite female Avenger moments! One of my all time favorites is the She Hulk mainly because of her fun personality and the fact that it was never made very clear how strong she was. That made it interesting to me.I can't think of a single great moment but I loved when she and the Avengers took on Zeus and the other Olympians in the 80's."Under Siege" got all the headlines but that Olympus storyline was just as good IMO. What a great era! Of course when you have John b and Tom P on art, I'm going to love it!
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Post by bobc on Aug 17, 2014 11:37:10 GMT -5
PS: Hi Sharky!
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Post by bobc on Aug 17, 2014 11:36:45 GMT -5
HB--I remember an annual where Wanda fought the Enchantress to a standstill, another great battle! I think it was when Goliath and the Wasp came back though--could be wrong.Yeah Wanda's powers were all over the place back in the day. It was so annoying when she'd practically pass out after one useless hex. She is way more interesting these days.
Anyway, speaking of the Wasp, in yet another annual,she had a great moment. I'm talking about the time the Avengers were fighting the Super Adaptoid, and for a few pages the Wasp fights him solo! She shrunk him down, stung him and then threw him at a tree! It was one of the few times the Wasp really stepped up to the plate in the good old days.
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Post by bobc on Aug 16, 2014 8:41:40 GMT -5
Hb--In that moment, Wanda went from being a character who could make a framed painting fly across the room at somebody, to an uber powerful female more in the class of Storm. It was exciting to watch. I think I posted this before, but some silver age writer (who was leaving the title) told the guy who was taking over "never let Wanda get too powerful." I never understood that thinking--making Wanda more powerful made her more exciting! It wasn't like she wasn't still vulnerable on a physical level. Anyway--I don't have that issue in front of me, but I thought Hawkeye said something "this ain't the Wanda I used to know" and Iron Man said "If that's what one night with Agatha Harkness looks like, I'd hate to see you in a week." Something like that. IM was right!
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Post by bobc on Aug 14, 2014 7:40:15 GMT -5
I liked when the Scarlet Witch brought down the meteorite on one of Kang's robots in that Giant Size Avengers annual.
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Post by bobc on Aug 13, 2014 17:31:31 GMT -5
Hey HB--You've put your finger on what is bugging me about Hickman's take on the Panther. Maybe you missed it, but the African goddess Bast (who inhabits the Wakandan Necropolis or City of the Dead)told T'Challa that he was going to be her champion and that he would be the King of the Dead.She granted him the knowledge, abilities and skills of ALL former Black Panthers--and also gave him the ability to confer with his ancestors (although why this is needed is unclear if he already knows everything they knew). This was like 4 years ago. Hickman STILL has not clarified what this means exactly, and there have been hundreds of online arguments over what BP's powers now are. Hickman DID, however, tweet that T'challa is now "superhuman" but that was all he said. Now a while back BP fought Black Dwarf, a hulk level goon of Thanos' and beat him soundly. Unfortunately, frustratingly, the fight happened off panel so we never saw how BP actually won, but he did say he thought he'd broken his hand in the fight--suggesting it was a physical fight rather than a tech win.I love what Hickman has done with BP overall, especially giving him a LONG overdue power up, but for God's sake when is he going to reveal it.
Now in terms of super tech, BP has been shown to be able to teleport, turn invisible, has a force field, energy daggers and now has some sort of weird energy claw gloves that he used on Namor. Any enhancements to BP's physical abilities were not brought out, but the gloves caused Namor to scream in pain. The Hulk broke the two up and was able to hold T'challa back from killing Namor.
So the whole thing is very confusing and you wouldn't believe the pregnant dog fights it's causing online.Some people are claiming that he must be Hulk level now, but I think they are reading way too much into this. I agree with you that even if BP had a power up, Namor would still probably be far, far stronger so T'Challa would need to plan very carefully and use super tech. I was expecting some big plot build up to this actually happening but what happens instead is that T'Challa just loses his temper and punches Namor in the face, starting the brawl.
The other thing that bothers me is that during this entire run of New Avengers, the Illuminati have built dozens of anti-matter bombs to destroy parallel earths that are phasing into our dimension on a now routine basis. BUT now that they actually had to blow up another world, no one wanted to pull the trigger. Makes me wonder why they bothered building these weapons in the first place.
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Post by bobc on Aug 6, 2014 14:09:50 GMT -5
New Avengers is out and a fight finally occurs between Namor and Black Panther. What a frikkin' huge letdown. BP's promise to kill Namor is a hinge element of this whole series, and after waiting years we get this? I am beyond disappointed.
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Post by bobc on Aug 4, 2014 9:19:18 GMT -5
I tried to go HB but I saw a line stretching a mile around the theater. I'll probably go this weekend when things calm down a bit.
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Post by bobc on Jul 31, 2014 15:09:37 GMT -5
I'm with you, MB. All this jumping around is making me sea sick. Big ideas are great, but it all comes down to execution. I think I would drop dead at this point if an actual relationship of any kind actually took place in any of this book. You hit the nail on the head when you said these lifelong (mostly) friends feel "clinically cold." When CA just walks up to Hawkeye and BW and tells them to arm themselves because they were going to confront Stark you'd think these characters would have asked what was going on. They've known each other for years. Seems like there are all kinds of opportunities for character development that just never happens--like, say, it would have been interesting to have CA tell Hawkeye and BW what was happening with the Illuminati, and see how they reacted. Maybe they'd be on Tony's side! And Thor just following along? And when CA sanctimoniously asks who of the Illuminati "broke first" morally, and Tony said "You did" and CA just punches him in the face--WTF?!!! The whole thing just seemed rushed, fake and awash in missed opportunities.
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Post by bobc on Jul 23, 2014 7:46:09 GMT -5
It's official! We're all extremely excited!
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Post by bobc on Jul 19, 2014 17:48:57 GMT -5
Why am I just now finding out that the Vision is going to be in the next movie? I'm happy happy happy! Not even the ghost of Bendis can dampen my friskiness now!
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Post by bobc on Jun 18, 2014 11:44:29 GMT -5
You're not missing much, MB. The last two New Avengers issues were better than the previous few, but still it just seems to be dragging. the covers for both 18 and 19 show a pitched battle between the Illuminati and a Justice League type team from an alternate earth, but the problem is there is no battle. I really hate that false advertising. Hickman does seem to be finally wrapping some of his numerous dangling plot lines, but it is going s l o w l y.
In regard to the main Avengers book, I am just as confused as you are. This book just has too many characters. No Avenger is getting any attention except maybe Iron Man--how could it be any other way when you have a million characters running around? This is a mess.
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Post by bobc on Jun 5, 2014 7:18:50 GMT -5
Hi Starry--yeah I'm still buying it and really like it. It's not perfect but still it's the closest book to old school Avengers that we have.
Actually New Avengers and Avengers suddenly stopped treading water and Hickman is actually starting to wrap up some of the 10,000 dangling plot lines that he seemed to have forgotten about for a year or so.
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Post by bobc on Apr 7, 2014 7:57:05 GMT -5
I tried to go see it but the line was out the door of the theater.
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Post by bobc on Apr 4, 2014 8:28:50 GMT -5
I liked it okay. I have noticed that the art is getting sketchy again. Maybe Marvel is pushing the artists to crank out more work than they are capable of producing.I had to look several times at some of the panels to know what was even going on. I thought there were some funny lines in that issue. For some odd reason I like The Blob.
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Post by bobc on Apr 2, 2014 8:16:43 GMT -5
I don't really think this is a spoiler, Starry--but the "secret behind the Black Swan" is that the Black Panther has found 3 Black Swans in separate timelines, but he only gets little glimpses into anything they are actually doing when observed. I think these glimpses are supposed to be tittilating but for me it's just more confusion. This is starting to seem more and more like Bendis. Huge promises, no delivery. And guess who is right by BP's side while watching these alternate swans? Namor. As if nothing happened between the two. Has their conflict just been tossed into the dumpster like Bendis does when he's too lazy to actually tie up a plot line?
I am liking Uncanny Avengers better than New Avengers now but I agree that the last couple of issues haven't been stellar. I think the deaths have been so frequent and unwarranted that it's hard to take any of it seriously. I like how he's writing the Wasp, though. It's nice to see her back as a major player.
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Post by bobc on Mar 30, 2014 9:10:20 GMT -5
New Avengers #16, which for some reason has a giant "#1" on the cover (?) was just terrible. I am scratching my head as to how this book as gone into such a tailspin. I am just astounded. As if New Avengers and Avengers needed to drown in millions of more characters, Hickman has introduced whole new teams, more multiple realities, and if that weren't enough, now we have multiple past and future worlds. Does anybody have the slightest idea what is going on in terms of plot? He even introduced three new Black Swans, when we don't know crap about the first one. Is Hickman ever going to wrap up any of thousand dangling plotlines? I just started skimming after a while because I find it impossible to care about anything that's going on because it is sheer chaos.
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Post by bobc on Mar 2, 2014 13:17:28 GMT -5
I haven't gotten this issue yet. Jan could (sort of) handle the Sentry but not The Reaper? Hmmmm. Oh well. I guess it's like the UFC--you never really can predict how a fight will end up.
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Post by bobc on Feb 12, 2014 15:43:15 GMT -5
Oh god--the raccoon incident.
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Post by bobc on Feb 10, 2014 19:00:15 GMT -5
I was wondering where you were hiding, Shir!
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