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Post by Shiryu on Oct 11, 2008 17:58:31 GMT -5
One of them (the one with large hat) is a god, but in general their strenght or skills are nothing that Superman, WW, Batman or even Nightwing couldn't go up against.
But as it always happens in intercompany fighting games, they will be given the same strenght here I suppose.
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Post by Shiryu on Oct 10, 2008 13:31:59 GMT -5
Try not to think about that.
What made my anger *almost* go away has been thinking to the depth we all showed in this situation. Members who hadn't posted in months came back and paid their respects, almost no posts were made for days. In suffering and mourning for the "death" of someone we had never met, in devoting topics or books to him, remembering him, crying about him, each and everyone of us came through in the best possible way, as human beings. And while Nutcase is dead to me right now, my respect for all the other AAers, including those with whose ideas I often disagree, has become even greater than it was. In all of this, we lost Nutcase, but perhaps found something more in everybody else. It's little consolation after the way we have been played, but I'd say it's something.
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Post by Shiryu on Oct 10, 2008 4:07:28 GMT -5
There are a number of thoughts crowding my mind right now, some of which I better censor for the sake of the readers. I thought there were things that weren't adding up, the speed of you recovery after so extensive injuries, or the fact that you best friend was posting from your very same IP address, but I kept pushing them away because I didn't think anyone could make such a cruel joke. Looks like I was wrong.
Let's just say I echo what Dlw and Van have said. I'm happy you are alive, but right now I really don't feel like reading much of you.
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Post by Shiryu on Oct 8, 2008 17:35:13 GMT -5
I have read this story, Starfoxxx. Moebius' art was definitely the strong point, and I also really enjoyed how Galactus was talking, but the religious group subplot put the story down a bit for me.
EDIT: here is the quote from Crimson Tide you mentioned ^^ "Petty Officer First Class Danny Rivetti: I said, the Kirby Silver Surfer was the only real Silver Surfer. And that the Moebius Silver Surfer was s**t. And Bennefield's a big Moebius fan. And it got of hand. I pushed him. He pushed me. I lost my head, Sir. I'm Sorry."
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Post by Shiryu on Oct 8, 2008 17:32:55 GMT -5
This is a list of all of Sersi's apperances
(I#9,D#11,M, OH: Women, net)—Eternals I#3 (4(fb1+2), Captain America Annual#11, Et3-6,8,11,12,[13],14-18, Thor Annual#7, Th284-289, 291,292, 300,301, Marvel Super Heroes: Contest of Champions#1,[2,3], Iron Man An6, Iron Man I#179, Eternals II#2(fb), Avengers I#246-248, Et II#1-12, Silver Surfer An1, Captain America I#355, 357, Av308-310, Avengers West Coast#56/2, Avengers An18, Avengers West Coast An4, Thor An14, Fantastic Four An22, Av314-318, 319-324, 325, AvAn19, 19/4, 19/5, Spectacular Spider-Man II#168-170, Thor420,421, Namor I#12(fb), Namor Annual#1/3, Av326-328, Cap383, Av329, 330,331, [AWC#69], Avengers Spotlight#40, Amazing Spider-Man I#348, X-Factor I#66, Alpha Flight I#98-100, Infinity Gauntlet#1,[2], 6 ,Cap394, Av332,333, AvAn20, [Incredible Hulk An17/2], AWC An6, Av334-339, Eternals: Herod Factor, Th437, [Cap395], Cap396/2,397/2, Av344, 345,IM278,Cap399,Av346,IM279,Cap400,Wonder Man II#9,Av347, Cap401, Av350/2, Infinity War#1, AF#110, ThAn17(fb),F4 An26,AvAn21, Av350,351, 352-354, An21, Av355,356, 357, Quasar#58, Av358,359, 360-363, 364-366, An22, Av368,X-Men II#26,AWC#101,Uncanny X-Men#307, Av369-375, Ultraforce I#8,9, Eliminator#3,UF#10,Ultraforce/Avengers Prelude#1, Avengers/Ultraforce#1, Ultraforce/Avengers#1, Black Knight: Exodus, Heroes for Hire#5(fb), 4-7, Avengers III#1-4, Eternals: Apocalypse Now
I don't recall the scene you mention, but perhaps it was from Spotlight rather than from the main book?
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Post by Shiryu on Oct 8, 2008 17:30:15 GMT -5
Second, I also wonder if one were to read the complete series straight through (and I know Shiryu and Bored Yesterday have done this recently -- me, I am stopped in the #80's trying to find the time to continue!) and take notes, how much human time would have passed? We know Marvel keeps moving the time up for their history (ie Reed and Ben being Desert Storm vets instead of WWII vets, etc.), but I would be curious to see how someone thinks 45 years would break down to real calendar-time. I would say that about 15 years have passed, more or less. I base this on Peter Parker being a high school student when he became Spider-Man, and being in his very very late twenties, possibly early thirties now (I'd say he is perpetually 29, since Marvel would probably think that 30 ages him too much). Also 15 years are enough time to use the words "many years ago" when referring to very old issues, while not being too many all in all. The same would probably apply to the Avengers. It's certainly 15 busy years, but potentially possible. After all, if we consider that some storylines which stretched over several months were actually concentrated in a matter of days/hours of book time, it's not too much of a stretch. After having read the entire series, I'd say the beginning of volume 3 after V2 made it look like everything was over and the Reborn Universe was there to stay.
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Post by Shiryu on Oct 8, 2008 17:22:42 GMT -5
I think I read somewhere that she is dead now.
That's what the Master List of the Marvel Appendix says about her
So yes, she is dead. Or so the world thinks. In truth, we all know she is hiding in a board posing as an American comic book fan ;D
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Post by Shiryu on Oct 7, 2008 14:53:40 GMT -5
I just noticed yesterday it was Doom's B-day. A belated happy birthday to you
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Post by Shiryu on Oct 7, 2008 14:47:32 GMT -5
Likewise, I haven't read many Surfer stories and I don't think I have more than one or two issues of his book. However, my favorite is by far the crossover with Superman, by George Perez (as writer!), where they meet the Impossible Man and Mxyplst... Myxkept... Myxkleptz... well, you got who I mean, the guy with violet bowler hat ^^ That story is just simple fan. My favorite line is the Impossible Man looking for the Surfer, and asking the citizens of Metropolis if they have seen "a bald, naked guy who looks like someone just stole his puppy" ;D
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Post by Shiryu on Oct 7, 2008 14:42:02 GMT -5
You will be exiled in the Black Galaxy! ^^
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Post by Shiryu on Oct 6, 2008 3:37:51 GMT -5
Sorry for the late intervention. I've just banned the guy and deleted his posts.
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Post by Shiryu on Oct 5, 2008 16:12:34 GMT -5
It's been very quiet here in the forum for the past few days, and rightly so given how emotionally touched we have all been for what happened to Jim.
While each one of us has his own way of accepting grief and dealing with it, remembering how much Nutcase loved comics, it felt right for me to try to move forward with a topic on the character whose image he had as avatar, the Silver Surfer.
We don't seem to talk much about him: did you read one of his regular books? what's your favorite story with him? do you like him best earth bound of free to roam the cosmos?
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 27, 2008 17:04:29 GMT -5
I just finished seeing this, it was on the shelves at the dvd rental shop and there was a 3x2 deal, so I thought "why not?"
Surprisingly... it's good! It takes a while to adapt to the basic concepts (most of the Avengers are dead and the main characters are their sons and daughters) and Pym (son of Wasp and Hank) is insufferable, but overall it's a nice movie with fairly good pace. It also features heavy apparances by Iron Man and Hulk, and smaller ones by Vision and Thor.
Give it a look if you find it online or at a good price, it's a nice hour of fun.
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 22, 2008 16:42:38 GMT -5
Six. Having Spidey becoming a full time Avenger is one of the things I kept wishing when I was a kid reading the book, and I always found very preposterous the reasons given for him not joining.
He has teamed up with basically every existing marvel hero over and over again, has been in the corners of the universe and in various other dimensions, has good scientific knowledge (not Reed or Tony level, but much better than most of the others), more experience than almost everybody else, has faced the likes of the Stranger and even defeated Firelord on his own, so I disagree with the "he's not team player" thing. Of course, he isn't a born team player, but the same could have been said for Hawkeye and several others before they became as such.
On the down side, everytime he is in a group, he seems only capable of making jokes or panic, and even in NA he hasn't really made the difference anytime, so can't go higher than 6.
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 22, 2008 16:33:38 GMT -5
Not being married, there isn't much I can suggest. Just make sure to listen to her, don't take her for granted and quietly discuss any issue before things degenerate too much. Compromise certainly is an element for a long, happy marriage.
Congratulations!!
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 22, 2008 16:31:28 GMT -5
I see what you mean, but I'd actually say that, overall, the villains had better characterization than the heroes in SW.
Doom was great throughout the story, and Galactus was pretty close to his usual self too, considering the circumstances. The Wrecking Crew were there just for the muscles, the Absorbing Man isn't usually the deepest of men, and Titania and Vulcana were new. Octopus had ups and downs, whereas Lizard was totally useless and wasted, and Klaw was just a raving lunatic. Kang was wasted too. As for Ultron, being a robot, and considering that Doom was around, I wasn't too upset by his reprogramming. For me, it would have been worse if he chose to team up with the villains of his own accord.
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 18, 2008 3:13:08 GMT -5
Aren't the guns from when he died? I seem to remember that Simonson armed the gods with guns, obtained by trading/swopping with humans, before their battle against Hela and her army. It was such a weird concept that got stuck in my mind
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 15, 2008 3:45:35 GMT -5
I didn't like Secret Wars II, but the first one is actually one of my all time favorite books ^^ I agree the characterizations are often off, I especially couldn't stand Wasp there (all she can do is worrying for nails and hair, whereas she was a competent, strong leader in the Avengers issues of the same period written by Stern).
But I love the pace of that book. There is just so much happening in each individual issue, with hardly a moment of respite. It's just one clash after the next, and towards the end you can just see and feel how tired the heroes are. Doom is also portrayed very well I'd say. He is probably the one character who gains the most from this book in terms of characterization.
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 12, 2008 16:27:34 GMT -5
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 12, 2008 16:23:30 GMT -5
I've finally seen it! It only took me 2 months, a bit longer and the DVD would have been out ^^'
I found it ok, but rather depressing, a feeling which I often link to Alan Moore's comics. It was very good from every point of view, but, to recreate the right atmosphere, it sacrificed the "sense of wonder" that I think should go with comics (and their movies).
The Joker was great, fantastic acting, and again I can see why they got rid of the more loony sides, like the acid flower etc, but he was also somewhat disturbing in the scenes with the knife, for the first time it didn't seem impossible to have a real Joker at large one day, and while that means the staff did a perfect job, it's also not the thing I'd like to think when exiting a cinema. In fact, it's not a movie that makes you feel particularly happy when you walk out I'd say.
Rachel death's was a surprise, but considering the problems with the actress, not a huge one. Harvey Dent and Batman's final choices where probably the things I liked the most overall.
Still, despite what box office says, I preferred Iron Man this summer ^^
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 12, 2008 13:13:56 GMT -5
Me, definitely! I can survive without the hype or the baloons, but the non relevant, or even openly misleading covers, are a pain. To be fair, over the last 12 months or so, I've seen an improvement in this sense, with more covers resembling, at least partially, the story itself, so things appear to be moving in the right direction. And I so miss the heads or full body figures in the top left corner!!
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 12, 2008 9:32:00 GMT -5
I meant that Thor has little space in the book compared to what the cover would make you think
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 11, 2008 13:54:11 GMT -5
I was a bit disappointed by the misleading cover. Thor has very little space, Cap and Tony basically do nothing. However, the book itself wasn't too bad, and I had forgotten Yu was at the art until Doom mentioned it. Don't know if it's the inker or what, but he has improved a lot from the NA days!
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 11, 2008 13:51:55 GMT -5
It's a very interesting topic!
I mostly agree with Scott's posts, but I'd like to contribute with information on what was happening around the same time at Disney Company.
Over there, the support the idea that Walt Disney himself was writing and drawing the stories (when in truth he couldn't draw and only wrote a very very few of them), the writer and artist's name was never written, and their work was totally anonimous. Both Carl Barks and Floyd Gottfredson, despite creating characters as important as uncle Scrooge and writing the backbone of the current Disney universe, were only credited after they retired, in a very hushed way (their names initially came out on the fanzines).
So I suppose that, in comparison, what was happening at DC was acceptable, and what was happening at Marvel was pure heaven for the creative teams. In turn, it's possible that this pushed more people to want to work for Marvel and produce better results.
As for the number of titles, I've always seen Lee as a "try and see" person, who created a number of titles out of experiment more than of careful thinking (didn't this hit him back in the seventies or late sixties, when he had to close several books?), so it's probably good there was a limit somewhere ^^
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 11, 2008 13:39:15 GMT -5
I'd really like Peter David on the book. And he is not that *new* really, he has been writing for at least 20 years, if not more. However, things like the team membership could be up to Quesada more than to the individual writer.
Still, it's a good news ;D Bendis was clearly unconfortable with this title IMO
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 11, 2008 13:35:53 GMT -5
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 11, 2008 13:30:26 GMT -5
I find it always difficult to rate individual issues, especially when they are part of an arc. Off the top of my head, I would say the story with the 1st appearance of the Vision, the final battle against Korvac (where everybody dies!), the issue where Ultron and Hank Pym defeat the team, the huge battle in Ultron Unlimited and the conclusion of Busiek's Kang storyline. Special mention for #3 and #4 of Avengers/JLA
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 11, 2008 13:25:46 GMT -5
I updated with Mr. Fantastic, Usagent (1), Invisible Woman (2), Firebird (4.5) New ranks 8: Thor, Iron Man, Cap 7.5: Vision 7: Wasp, Hawkeye, Hank Pym So far, in a standard 7 members line-up, they would be the only active roster 6:Scarlet, Wonder Man, Beast, She-Hulk, Photon 5:Hercules, Black Knight, Ms. Marvel, Namor 4.5: Firebird 4:Quicksilver, Black Panther, Starfox, Mockingbird 3.5:Thing 3: Swordsman, Black Widow 2.5:Jocasta 2:Tigra, Falcon, Hellcat, War Machine 2:Invisible Woman And finally the hall of shame, which is still by far the largest group: 1:Hulk, Mantis, Moondragon, Whizzer, Two-Gun Kid, Dr. Druid, Mar-Vell, Moon Knight, Marrina, Yellowjacker 2, Demolation Man, Gilgamesh, Mr. Fantastic, Usagent
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Post by Shiryu on Aug 28, 2008 12:05:59 GMT -5
Indeed... I think he was the second user to register, straight after Van.
I feel ancient now ^^
Anyway, happy birthday Adrian!
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Post by Shiryu on Aug 27, 2008 18:10:17 GMT -5
I'm now at #159, and so far it's been amazing! I remembered Thor's silver age to be the best one together with Spidey's, and so far I stand by this claim. There is never one boring issue, it's epics after epics. We went from Tana Nile ( ;D It made me wonder how come you choose that nick, Tana?) to Ego and the Black Galaxy, from the origin of the Wrecker to Ulik, from Loki to Mangog!
The stories are always compelling and all the characters have reached their final characterizations, the ones they will keep pretty much forever. Some cliches are a bit abused however, especially Odin showing up every other issue to punish/criticize Thor, usually for something he hasn't done or has done for good reason. For someone who claims to be all-seeing, he certainly tends to keep his eyes closed always at the wrong time, and keeps trusting Loki despite centuries of tricks and evil deeds -_-
As far as the rest of the cast goes, the Warrior Three are finally appearing more regularly, whereas Hercules is still nowhere to be seen since the issues with Pluto. Two interesting notes 1) Hela is nowhere near the villain she will eventually become. So far that role seems to belong only to Loky, occasionally sided by Karnilla (who hardly ever appears anymore. Is she still alive?).
2) Jane Foster has been replaced by Sif as Thor's love interest. I can see the reasons behind this choice, Jane's role was hardly evolving beyond the damsel in distress one. And besides so many of Thor's adventures don't take place on Earth that it was difficult to make her fit.
Still, the way that was used to get rid of her was rather strange. She gets turned in a god and asked to face a fearsome monster like 5 minutes later, it's hardly surprising she didn't pass the test. And Thor is certainly very quick to replace her with Sif... Talking of Sif, in the early issues, Thor remembers playing with her on his knees, implying a rather big age difference, whereas more recent books show the two of them as having pretty much the same age (best seen in flashbacks of their childhood). I wonder if they were afraid of ageing Thor too much by pairing him with the Asgardian equivalent of a teenager ^^
Finally the art, which is just amazing. Kirby has done a wonderful job in most issues, even using some "real" art / photos as a background in some panels. I think he won't stay on board for much more, but his "replacement", Big John Buscema, is certainly very fitting ;D
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