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Post by humanbelly on Jan 22, 2014 22:29:16 GMT -5
[I suppose it makes sense, a bit like Thor's human identity occasionally being forgotten for months at the time. Was Bruce Banner ever particularly popular? He is kind of the cheerleader desperately dancing to keep the public entertained before the real game begins... ;D "Popular" might certainly be a stretch. . . but he definitely had periods over the years where he was quite compelling and sympathetic. Stan, of all folks, was one of the best writers at balancing Bruce's sense of frustration and hopelessness with a truly innately heroic and selfless nature-- particularly in the couple of years before he turned Greenskin's solo title over to Roy. Bruce was a guy who willfully sacrificed his life while all alone, lost in small corner of the Savage Land, in order to save the planet. That's always resonated with me. (Hulk #110) He does the right thing under the most extreme circumstances without hesitation. In all honesty, he really should have been a more regular presence in the Defenders than he was. Good heavens--- how did the Hulk NOT change back to Banner all the time if Stephen was prone to giving arcane lectures on the minutia of sorcery as part of an evening's social agenda-? "Hulk. . . sleepy. . . sleepiest one. . . there. . . is. . . " Strange's home should have been an ideal haven for Bruce as well, don'tcha think? HB
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Post by ultron69 on Jan 23, 2014 7:57:25 GMT -5
I've always been amused at the amount of dialogue people manage to say in an incredibly short time. In #13, Namor throws the Whizzer and then says "Eh? The Speedster twists his body in mid-air --negating the force of my throw--and now rushes towards me at blinding speed" to which Whizzer replies "And when I reach you Fish-man -- you're not gonna have time to regret it." For Pete's sake, if Whizzer is as fast as he's supposed to be, all there should have been time for was "Eh?" If there was this much time, Namor should have been able to move out of the way. This happened frequently in comics and always annoyed me. I've just come to accept this as artistic liberty of comic book writers, sort of the way these people endure huge beatings with nary a scratch (though maybe a torn costume on occasion) and people without invulnerability always seem to be able to avoid bullets. It's wierd that they can say so much in such a short time, or that they would bother to warn their enemy of their attack with a battle cry or a pithy quote, but hey, that's the pulp in our orange juice.
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Post by wundagoreborn on Jan 23, 2014 8:17:45 GMT -5
This was definitely my first time reading these books. I loved team books when I was starting out reading comics (the 40 cent days) and I read Defenders for a while. But since, as I've mentioned else-thread, I have never been a fan of the Hulk I never really clicked on the book. When I discovered X-Men, I switched teams and never looked back. Did you collect Defenders when they brought all of the ex-X-Men on board? I'd only had a couple issues of the Defenders (issue numbers in the 70's) but I started collecting when the Beast, Angel, & Iceman joined. I was such an X-Zombie at that point... No. I wasn't a particularly broad-minded kid. When that happened, I just grumbled about X-men being put on the "wrong team" and went on my grumpy way. Luckily, I didn't have an Internet on which to be relentlessly negative.
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Post by wundagoreborn on Jan 23, 2014 8:42:26 GMT -5
I wonder if anyone knew about global warming back when this was written, because this is global warming in a hurry! I had meant to comment on this point, but forgot until reminded by the BAB review. I was 6 when this came out, but I recall always being at least vaguely aware of global warming. There were lots of public service ads about the campaign to rid aerosol cans of CFCs to save the ozone layer. Cool sounding words, I had no idea what they meant. What strikes me now is not only that oceans rising remains part of our cultural consciousness 40 years later, but how consistent the imagery is. That splash page (pun intended) in number 13 could easily be a scene from The Day After Tomorrow film.
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Post by humanbelly on Jan 23, 2014 9:13:14 GMT -5
I've always been amused at the amount of dialogue people manage to say in an incredibly short time. In #13, Namor throws the Whizzer and then says "Eh? The Speedster twists his body in mid-air --negating the force of my throw--and now rushes towards me at blinding speed" to which Whizzer replies "And when I reach you Fish-man -- you're not gonna have time to regret it." For Pete's sake, if Whizzer is as fast as he's supposed to be, all there should have been time for was "Eh?" If there was this much time, Namor should have been able to move out of the way. This happened frequently in comics and always annoyed me. I've just come to accept this as artistic liberty of comic book writers, sort of the way these people endure huge beatings with nary a scratch (though maybe a torn costume on occasion) and people without invulnerability always seem to be able to avoid bullets. It's wierd that they can say so much in such a short time, or that they would bother to warn their enemy of their attack with a battle cry or a pithy quote, but hey, that's the pulp in our orange juice. Hoo-boy-- the reigning champ of this particular, idiosyncratic phenomenon has always been (for me): I don't have it in front of me, but IIRC this moment on the cover begins at the end of the previous issue, and continues right here on the splash page, and the team spends, what?, maybe 1-1/2 pages? 2 pages? 3 pages? Talking and planning and executing a manuever to save Cap before he hits the ground?? The structure is, maybe, seven or eight stories tall (hard to tell, 'cause Swordy's 'way out of proportion), so we're probably looking at something like a 3-second drop. Even younger kids get that this isn't how the world works, though. It may have even served to create an unintended (but definitely healthy) disconnect for them along the lines of "don't try this at home". ('Course, then one happens to catch things like "America's Stupidest Tricks on Home Video" and the like, and one has to start worrying again. . . ) HB
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Post by wundagoreborn on Jan 23, 2014 14:08:10 GMT -5
This is much like the contemporary action movie -- make clear there is 90 seconds until disaster and then spend 15-20 minutes of screen time inside that 90 seconds. The tension builds, stretches taut, breaks, dissolves and when the disaster is finally averted, the viewer has long been sick of the whole thing.
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Post by Marvel Boy on Jan 23, 2014 15:20:15 GMT -5
The Defenders are one of the few Marvel groups that I've never been that much into. I have sporadic issues of their title in my collection, but that is due more to those issues being included in comic trades with other neighborhood kids than me actively seeking them out. For the record though, I was more into the group when Beast, Angel and such joined later on.
As for these issues though, first time ever reading them, man, what a blast! The plot was zany, but handled very well. My biggest nitpick though is why would Namor help them stop Nebulon? The Squadron is set to destroy the surface world, something Namor has always quested for to some degree, and they are doing so by raising the ocean levels, certainly an action that would benefit the Atlantean race. Other than possibly dealing with Nebulon's people, I thought Namor would benefit from this deal.
Speaking of Nebulon, he looks familiar, has he ever appeared in any Avengers annuals? Terrific look though.
Wein's dialogue is great, love Sal's art, his 'Hulk' is one of my favorite renderings. While I like Namor's costume here, my biggest costuming issue is Hyperion's domino mask. Here, it just strikes me as odd.
Overall, first impressions, these were two fun issues. Will have more thoughts later on.
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Post by humanbelly on Jan 23, 2014 21:37:37 GMT -5
The Defenders are one of the few Marvel groups that I've never been that much into. I have sporadic issues of their title in my collection, but that is due more to those issues being included in comic trades with other neighborhood kids than me actively seeking them out. For the record though, I was more into the group when Beast, Angel and such joined later on. As for these issues though, first time ever reading them, man, what a blast! The plot was zany, but handled very well. My biggest nitpick though is why would Namor help them stop Nebulon? The Squadron is set to destroy the surface world, something Namor has always quested for to some degree, and they are doing so by raising the ocean levels, certainly an action that would benefit the Atlantean race. Other than possibly dealing with Nebulon's people, I thought Namor would benefit from this deal. Speaking of Nebulon, he looks familiar, has he ever appeared in any Avengers annuals? Terrific look though. Wein's dialogue is great, love Sal's art, his 'Hulk' is one of my favorite renderings. While I like Namor's costume here, my biggest costuming issue is Hyperion's domino mask. Here, it just strikes me as odd. Overall, first impressions, these were two fun issues. Will have more thoughts later on. It sneaks by kind of quickly in the debate, Marv-B, but Doc Strange does tell Namor directly that the deluge would wipe out the aquatic races as well (which makes sense, as Nebulon's people would presumably want an uninhabited planet to call their own). That's actually what does get Namor to OH-SO-BEGRUDGINGLY agree to assist them at all. And man, he still was clearly not a lick pleased to be doing it! Nebulon did eventually pop up again, 'cause I remember a Lady Neulon as well (Nebulina??) at some point-- but possibly not drawn as well. Can't remember where. . . And I do have to say that Sal's Lovecraftian depiction of Nebbie's true form is one of his best and most surprising efforts ever-! A truly grotesque horror that is unlike almost anything he ever draws. I remember my buddy and I having a huge vocal reaction to that panel when we read the book the first time-- heh. I mentioned it very recently in another blog, but it bears repeating here-- I think Sal B's clean, clear, straightforward style may have been an under-recognized salvation for this title. The stories- even pre-Gerber- tended to be rather "out there" fare that could very easily have been hard for the ambivalent fan to embrace. But Sal's comfortable, easy, familiar pencils tended to create an aura of legitimacy and credibility in stories that might not have so easily been accepted otherwise (I'm thinking Brotherhood of Mutant Babies, Bozos, Headmen, interplanetary Cthulu-like geologists, and elves with guns, to name a few). He was exactly the right guy for these writers and their ideas, I'm thinking. HB
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Post by ultron69 on Jan 24, 2014 8:20:12 GMT -5
I wonder if anyone knew about global warming back when this was written, because this is global warming in a hurry! I had meant to comment on this point, but forgot until reminded by the BAB review. I was 6 when this came out, but I recall always being at least vaguely aware of global warming. There were lots of public service ads about the campaign to rid aerosol cans of CFCs to save the ozone layer. Cool sounding words, I had no idea what they meant. I guess I don't remember those ads, but I do remember the anti-pollution ad from the late 70's with the Native American (though they were just called American Indians back then) seeing all the pollution we cause, then crying as he looks upon a huge heap of garbage.
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Post by ultron69 on Jan 24, 2014 8:23:05 GMT -5
As for these issues though, first time ever reading them, man, what a blast! The plot was zany, but handled very well. My biggest nitpick though is why would Namor help them stop Nebulon? The Squadron is set to destroy the surface world, something Namor has always quested for to some degree, and they are doing so by raising the ocean levels, certainly an action that would benefit the Atlantean race. Other than possibly dealing with Nebulon's people, I thought Namor would benefit from this deal. I was thinking the same thing. "If the whole world is under water, isn't that a good thing for Namor?" I thought I was missing something. Yes, I know Dr. Strange says that the Atlanteans would be wiped out as well, but that just doesn't make any sense to me. Plus, if the ice caps are melted, the deluge is going to be a gradual thing. I don't think there will be 100 foot tidal waves all over the globe.
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Post by ultron69 on Jan 24, 2014 8:28:18 GMT -5
I mentioned it very recently in another blog, but it bears repeating here-- I think Sal B's clean, clear, straightforward style may have been an under-recognized salvation for this title. The stories- even pre-Gerber- tended to be rather "out there" fare that could very easily have been hard for the ambivalent fan to embrace. But Sal's comfortable, easy, familiar pencils tended to create an aura of legitimacy and credibility in stories that might not have so easily been accepted otherwise (I'm thinking Brotherhood of Mutant Babies, Bozos, Headmen, interplanetary Cthulu-like geologists, and elves with guns, to name a few). He was exactly the right guy for these writers and their ideas, I'm thinking. HB The Headmen? One of the weirdest stories I've ever read. And it seemed to drag on forever. What was Gerber thinking? It's as if he decided to resurrect these extremely obscure, horror comic characters from the 50's on a dare.
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Post by humanbelly on Jan 24, 2014 11:11:09 GMT -5
I mentioned it very recently in another blog, but it bears repeating here-- I think Sal B's clean, clear, straightforward style may have been an under-recognized salvation for this title. The stories- even pre-Gerber- tended to be rather "out there" fare that could very easily have been hard for the ambivalent fan to embrace. But Sal's comfortable, easy, familiar pencils tended to create an aura of legitimacy and credibility in stories that might not have so easily been accepted otherwise (I'm thinking Brotherhood of Mutant Babies, Bozos, Headmen, interplanetary Cthulu-like geologists, and elves with guns, to name a few). He was exactly the right guy for these writers and their ideas, I'm thinking. HB The Headmen? One of the weirdest stories I've ever read. And it seemed to drag on forever. What was Gerber thinking? It's as if he decided to resurrect these extremely obscure, horror comic characters from the 50's on a dare. Oh golly, now I'm wanting to go and pull the next two or three dozen issues of this title out and re-read them! Yep, it was a long, convoluted storyline, existing as an extended sub-plot for quite awhile before blossoming to the fore-- but I loved every improbable, implausible bit of it. A particularly nice, humanizing Gerber touch was that the three primary baddies (who, I think, lived together in a suburban ranch-style house, and two of whom were rather grotesque) all comfortably used their first names with each other: Jerry, Arthur, and Chondu. How do you tremble in fear from the machinations of a guy named Jerry? But it does support my earlier point about the effect of Sal's art. I scanned the Wikipedia entry about these guys-- and it just sounds like an unreadable mess. But I absolutely remember following it every month, and buying into the whole thing. . . largely (I think) because it looked "right", which was enough to make it accessible. HB
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Post by Doctor Bong Crosby on Jan 24, 2014 13:22:41 GMT -5
So a quick question: which group do you find more interesting or compelling: the Squadron Sinister or the Squadron Supreme? I myself would have liked s Squadron Sinister with a larger line-up, the same way its opposite number, the Squadron Supreme, was. As soon as I saw the cover of Defenders # 14 I remembered it was one of the first Marvel Comics I ever read. One of the things that stuck with me from it, as other people have mentioned, is what a cool looking character Nebulon was. In that sense, it´s kind of a shame that said look was just an elaborate illusion... . And speaking of cool looking characters, another of the first Marvel Comics which I read was Iron Man # 63, where I met Doctor Spectrum for the first time. Right from the start I was a big fan of his looks. I´ve always been partial to the comic book convention of masks and, for some reason, I´m especially dazzled by full face masks (cowls...?) such as Iron Man´s, Spider-Man´s, the Black Panther´s or, in this case, Doctor Spectrum´s. Maybe it´s because it always seemed to me that if your goal was to hide your identity, realistically only a full mask would do... . The only thing I never cared for, even as a kid, was his name. "Doctor Spectrum" always sounded (and still does) lame to me. I remember I read most of my first Marvels at an open market (in Lima, Perú). One of the many kiosks in there had a large collection of used comic books and its business was to rent them for people to read them. You had to read them right there, mind you, you couldn´t take them with you and return them later. Most open markets in Lima had one of those comic book rental places. They invariably had many more DC comics than Marvel ones, because at the time DC had a much better distribution system in the Spanish-speaking world (or at least Perú), but right from the beginning I became a Marvel fan and I always sought them first. Regarding the Hulk´s transformations into Banner or lack thereof, I wonder: since for the longest time an important psychological element (beyond the strictly PHYSICAL influence of the Gamma rays on Banner´s body) has been part of the existence and influence of the Hulk in the good doctor´s life, could it be (maybe) posited that, whenever the Hulk shows up as a mere reaction to anger, danger, stress, etc. and once he has dealt with the situation there´s nothing else for him to react to or rage against, then once he calms down he´ll swiftly revert to Banner, BUT if he finds himself in a situation where he can keep reacting and interacting as the Hulk and perhaps be able to cope better with such situation, then Banner subconsciously will allow the Hulk persona to remain for extended periods of time... (such as when he´s in the company of his superhero peers, or when he meets new friends who are sympathetic to the Hulk). even to the point of sometimes going to sleep as the Hulk and waking up later still big and green. Could this be a sound hypothesis cooked up a posteriori...? Oh well, I´m sure there must be many examples of situations contradicting my theory... .
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Post by ultron69 on Jan 24, 2014 15:22:40 GMT -5
Doc Bong, I find the Squadron Sinister more compelling. Maybe it's because there are so few super-villain groups out there, or maybe it's because I find an anti-JLA (as the Squadron are analogs of the JLA) very interesting, sort of like that Star Trek episode "Mirror, Mirror". Then again, I was always a sucker for earth 3 in the DC universe.
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Post by sharkar on Jan 24, 2014 16:07:16 GMT -5
Wow, came to the forum and it's got a brand new look! I need to poke around and acclimate myself to the new features, but here are some thoughts about Defenders #13-14.
I was not reading comics at the time (1974) so this story/series is brand new to me. Since I don't have any associated nostalgia, the story is "okay"...seems fairly typical for a mainstream superhero comic of the time and is enjoyable. And I can see why the notion of a "non-team", and the Defenders' interaction, camaraderie, etc., would appeal to young readers.
I agree with the others who have already posted about the art by our pal Sal; it's accessible artwork, great storytelling. #13 is inked by Janson and I'm not crazy about the combo. I've read that Sal loved Janson's inks because they made Sal "look better", but I find KJ's inks are too dark, too intense, and too overpowering for Sal. As for #14, the art is more shared, looks like Dan Green did the finishes over Sal breakdowns--at least that's what the co-artist credit in #14 as well as the finished result indicates--and I think Green's inks are a better fit for Sal.
Hyperion's bulky, overweight "look" doesn't bother me that much--initially he was supposed to be modeled after Wayne Boring's barrel-chested Superman, at least back in Avengers #70--but that awful hair--arrghh! Oh well it was the seventies...
So Namor left the team in #14, and soon after he also lost his own book around this time. Poor guy--kind of like Giant-Man and Wasp after they left Avengers #16 (followed by losing their TtA feature)!
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Post by Shiryu on Jan 24, 2014 16:13:55 GMT -5
It looks like even Proboards was impressed by the book club, the forum is all new So a quick question: which group do you find more interesting or compelling: the Squadron Sinister or the Squadron Supreme? Supreme for me, mostly because their status is such that anything can happen to them, including permanent deaths. Their LS is one of my favourite stories ever. I like the S. Sinister too, but because they are villains, you kind of know how things will turn out.
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Post by pym on Jan 25, 2014 8:59:42 GMT -5
As a super villain team, I have always loved The JLA Sinister. It was a hoot to see DC respond with The Champions of Angor in Batman - King of the World. Just my quick 2¢ about the Squadron until I can dig the issues in question out of storage.
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Post by spiderwasp on Jan 25, 2014 13:40:28 GMT -5
So a quick question: which group do you find more interesting or compelling: the Squadron Sinister or the Squadron Supreme? I guess my previous comment about the LS being my favorite comic book story ever makes this an obvious answer for me. I thought the Squadron Sinister was just another ordinary group of villains - nothing special except for their similarity to the JLA. The Squadron Supreme was sort of that way too until the LS when Gruenwald gave them each their own personalities and turned them into something much greater. I think it's because he could go anywhere with the story that he was able to write something really great. Nothing would make me happier than to see someone else be able to take this group and bring them back to that kind of quality but I doubt it will ever happen. On a side note, but also related, one of my favorite lines ever was in the Avengers/JLA crossover when Hawkeye referred to the JLA as a bunch of "Squadron Supreme Wanna-bes". Brilliant.
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Post by ultron69 on Jan 27, 2014 8:31:17 GMT -5
So a quick question: which group do you find more interesting or compelling: the Squadron Sinister or the Squadron Supreme? I guess my previous comment about the LS being my favorite comic book story ever makes this an obvious answer for me. I thought the Squadron Sinister was just another ordinary group of villains - nothing special except for their similarity to the JLA. The Squadron Supreme was sort of that way too until the LS when Gruenwald gave them each their own personalities and turned them into something much greater. I think it's because he could go anywhere with the story that he was able to write something really great. Nothing would make me happier than to see someone else be able to take this group and bring them back to that kind of quality but I doubt it will ever happen. I'll have to get that LS one of these days.
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Post by humanbelly on Jan 27, 2014 21:58:28 GMT -5
Hoo-boy, I've fallen behind already, haven't I? May I insert myself back into the ongoing conversation(s)-? So a quick question: which group do you find more interesting or compelling: the Squadron Sinister or the Squadron Supreme? I myself would have liked s Squadron Sinister with a larger line-up, the same way its opposite number, the Squadron Supreme, was. The Squadron Supreme LS is still one of my favorite ambitious undertakings, as well, so they almost automatically get my vote as fave. Ultron, I imagine there are a number of folks here who, like me, can't recommend it highly enough. It's incredibly thought-provoking, ambitiously takes on very tough ethical issues when it comes to superheroes, has a surpising depth of character in the writing. . . and manages to keep it all feeling pretty much like a bronze age comic. It mostly avoids the pitfalls of the dark&gritty, hyper-spectacle trend that was just in its infancy when this LS was published. For the time, it was probably considered somewhat dark in tone. Now? Sheesh-- it walks on eggshells, comparatively. I was always kind of "enh" about the Squad Sinister, until the Avengers issue (was it an annual?) where they all got their suppressed memories back. Whizzer's outburst-- "Oh my god! I'm the WHIZZER!!!" (while he had to that point been contentedly processing perscriptions)(followed by an instantaneous super-speed freakout) is just a delightful moment. Even better was the Vision talking Hyperion down from his own memory-induced rampage-- one of Vizh's best moments ever, and probably an opportunity missed for making that particualar Hyperion a more major character in the MU. Squad Sin's Dr Spectrum, though, is just about one of the most boring, run-of-the-mill megalomaniac cookie-cutter villains you'll ever come across. He's almost a parody of that sort of bad guy. But I do have to admit, Bong, that I've always liked his look, as well. Probably the best version of him was in Marvel's adult MAX imprint, in the SUPREME POWER title. That guy, I liked. Yep, yep-- same here. My buddy and I thought his "celestial god" look was INCREDIBLY cool! Pretty sure I drew a poster of him at one point. Y'know, he kind of looks like he might have been designed by Dave Cockrum (of all people), doesn't he? Before Cockrum's time, though, right? And Nubulon does turn up in the Defenders again, I discovered. Issues 34 & 38, I think (I peeked at the cover gallery)-- but those issues don't seem to have made nearly as much of an impression. This would have TOTALLY been No-Prize material back in the day, Bong. Or even karma material not so very long ago (*sniff*). While, yes, there are certainly plenty of contradictory examples to be had about your theory, I think that it still cooks your posterior just fine (hmm-- maybe I don't quite have a handle on that reference just yet. . . ). Historically, the one thing the reasoning & rationale behind the Hulk's changes has NEVER been is consistent, believe me! At first it was nightfall (!), then it was no observable reason, and then it was the bombardment machine, then it was OVER-exertion for either identity (if he pushed too hard as the Hulk, he changed back to Banner!), and he got "stuck" as the Hulk any number of times, and then it settled into the whole pulse-rate convention for quite a long time. Really, Doc's droning on about magical arcana would have been precisely the sort of thing that would have triggered the change back to Banner under the pulse-rate convention-- as would the idyllic time he spent on Jarella's plainet K'ai the few times his visited there. So even within the canon of his own title, it looks like there are "likely" triggers, but not necessarily "certain" ones. Personally, I think your theory about direct personal engagement, regardless of the immediate danger level, as a means of sustaining the Hulk identity is first-rate. It really covers over a HUGE amount of continuity questions that have collected, literally, over the last (OMG!) 50 years. . . HB
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Post by ultron69 on Jan 28, 2014 7:44:54 GMT -5
HB, I think the S-Sinister issue you're thinking of is Avengers Annual #8 which was one of the first Avengers comics I ever owned, and has been forever imprinted on my brain (especially the cover) because of the wonderful George Perez art. Also, as far as Nebulon looking like he was designed by Cockrum, perhaps that is because he's got Star Boy's starfield costume, more or less.
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Post by spiderwasp on Jan 28, 2014 9:01:29 GMT -5
I'll have to get that LS one of these days. An investment you won't regret. Do it sooner than later and then let us know what you think.
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Post by spiderwasp on Jan 28, 2014 9:04:15 GMT -5
Okay, snow day here in NC today and could possibly be the same tomorrow. It would be a perfect day for the next installment. What should I go back and read?
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Post by Doctor Bong Crosby on Jan 28, 2014 11:43:16 GMT -5
Okay, snow day here in NC today and could possibly be the same tomorrow. It would be a perfect day for the next installment. What should I go back and read? The Unabridged "Encyclopaedia Poppupiana"...?
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Post by spiderwasp on Jan 28, 2014 12:42:17 GMT -5
Okay, snow day here in NC today and could possibly be the same tomorrow. It would be a perfect day for the next installment. What should I go back and read? The Unabridged "Encyclopaedia Poppupiana"...? Impossible
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Post by humanbelly on Jan 28, 2014 14:08:31 GMT -5
The Unabridged "Encyclopaedia Poppupiana"...? Impossible Impossible-?? Man. . .
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Post by Shiryu on Jan 28, 2014 17:40:03 GMT -5
Okay, snow day here in NC today and could possibly be the same tomorrow. It would be a perfect day for the next installment. What should I go back and read? We're heading towards the end of the first two weeks of the BC and I'm up next in the choosing list... I can definitely relate to HB now, have been thinking about this for several days and there are so many options. But in the end, after some painful choices (X-Men God Loves Man Kills above all) I'm going for Fantastic Four #242-244 co-starring the Avengers. Like before, anyone who doesn't have the issues in question, drop me a pm.
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Post by ultron69 on Jan 29, 2014 8:13:11 GMT -5
I'll have to get that LS one of these days. An investment you won't regret. Do it sooner than later and then let us know what you think. Hey, here is one good thing about this new board. I got a notification that you quoted me.
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Post by humanbelly on Jan 29, 2014 20:57:37 GMT -5
Okay, snow day here in NC today and could possibly be the same tomorrow. It would be a perfect day for the next installment. What should I go back and read? We're heading towards the end of the first two weeks of the BC and I'm up next in the choosing list... I can definitely relate to HB now, have been thinking about this for several days and there are so many options. But in the end, after some painful choices (X-Men God Loves Man Kills above all) I'm going for Fantastic Four #242-244 co-starring the Avengers. Like before, anyone who doesn't have the issues in question, drop me a pm. Yepyepyepyepyep... okay. Defenders back in Box 6; FF out of Box 8 (*groan*-- on the 3rd shelf up-!) This is pretty cool, Shir. Both of our first offerings have a definite Avengers connection w/out actually being Avengers books. We're a clever lot-! HB
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Post by ultron69 on Jan 30, 2014 8:11:38 GMT -5
I pulled those FF's out of box #3. I'll read through them over the weekend.
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