Top 5 Bad-guys

[Nutcase65]

OK, since a certain Bong-head jumped the gun I went ahead and started this thread.

You've shared your good guys, no share the bad-guys

1. Loki
The god of mischeif, need I say more. I will tho'. The reason we are all here on the AVENGERS board. Constant pain in the butt. Great sense of humor. I also love the way he mewls when he's in trouble.

2. Ultron
One of the biggest and most effective foes of the Avengers. When he shows up you know things are gonna get real bad, real fast.

3. Taskmaster
For me, one of the coolest villians of all time. He's so good he trains bad-guys

4. Impossible Man
May not be a true bad guy, but he causes enough trouble.

5. Crossbones
I can't explain this one. He's just tough. In fallen son, when Wolvie walks in the door, he is not scared, that was no act. "You gonna do me?" Not scared, just askin' TOUGH

[Black Knight]

1. DOOM - Come on its Doom. He is by far one of the coolest villains in my book.
2. Loki - For pretty much the same reasons as nutty.
3. Mandrian - I loved some the revamping they did with him during the Force Works era( yea I know FW is bad and all, but the mandrian was cool)
4. Ultron - He was the most scary when he tried to turn everyone to robots in WCA. Although Ultron Unlimited rocked.
5. Red Skull - Come on, he is a Nazi, and he is Cap's main villian.

[Bored Yesterday]

1. Dr. Doom -- His personaility combined with a warped nobility create a sort of template for all great villains to follow -- like Darth Vader
2. Absorbing Man -- one of the coolest powers anywhere, combined with the dimwitted pathology of a serieal felon
3. The Lizard -- Haven't seen him in a while, but I always liked how Curt Connors didn't have an arm unless he was the Lizard
4. Bullseye -- I always wished I could throw playing cards like him
5. Galactus -- He's everybody's dad -- bigger than you and capable of squashing your world with the merest whim.

[Bored Yesterday]

Hmm, that last one kind of sounds like I have fatherhood issues, doesn't it? Maybe I should talk to somebody about that -- on another board of course. Heh heh

[Nutcase65]

boredyesterday said:

Hmm, that last one kind of sounds like I have fatherhood issues, doesn't it? Maybe I should talk to somebody about that -- on another board of course. Heh heh

;D ;D Or you could just give in and become another nutcase. You could be Nutcase66.

[BigDuke]

1) Ultron - the brain child of a hero gone tragically wrong. I get excited every time he shows up in the Avengers.

2) Kang - Possibly the most manipulative and arrogant SOB ever.

3) Korvac - Yeah, he only showed up for the one story, but what a story.

4) Red Skull - Gives evil a face, and an ugly one at that.

5) Zemo - The villain archetype: Evil genius who almost wins every time, only to lose every time.

Honorable Mention: Doom and the Master of Evil

[Nutcase65]

who is this 'Dr. Doom' everyone keeps talking about? Does he work for Doctor Octopus?

(Looks around for non load bearing walls)

[Doctor Doom]

I shall ignore that for your sake, Nutcase!

Since I;m an ENORMOUS bad guy fan in general, my own list is....

1. Doctor Doom- He's evil, he'd relentlessly over the top, and yet he has three qualities that put him FAR above anyone else; his cape, his sense of honour which gives him a bizarre class and anti-hero quality and his mind-numbing arrogance which has created some awesome pieces of writing in the past. (For example, one of my favourite lines from him was, in "Unthinkable"- "Richards in his unending quest to try and assert his imaginary superiority has continually denied an ascension which would benefit everyone!" or some such thing, or his berating Mr Fantastic for being arrogant in the same story)

2. Lex Luthor. He ALWAYS does weasel out, and he has the whole "respectable businessman in public" thing down to a tee. His biggest let-downs are that he is overused and often underplayed, and also the entire godawful President of the United States idea. The concept was so flaw it didn't matter what stories came out of it but the point when the President donned a giant green and purple battlesuit was where it lost all credibility. That aside, a FANTASTIC villain and "guy you love to hate." He also had one of his best moments in a very long time in Infinite Crisis. Having been beaten around for 6 issues by his treacherous Earth-3 alter ego, he takes vengeance. Said ego skulks in a back alley and is suddenly sprayed in the face. We see him collapse, clutching his face in agony and as he reaches around blindly, his hand grasps a boot. We see Lex Luthor standing, cold and calm as you like, telling him he made so many mistakes, but one bigger than all the rest. He gestures to his now revealed compatriot and says "...You didn't let the Joker play." Nasty. Very nasty. And so cool.

3. Kang, but only "The Kang Dynasty" and "Avengers Forever" Kang. This turns him into much more than just a time travelling loon and in fact makes him Doom-like in his sense of honour and royalty- the final page of Busiek's penultimate issue in that storyline says it all, with Kang standing proud in the blazing ruins of his ship as it crashes to Earth, bellowing "KANG THE CONQUEROR FIGHTS TO THE END!" Give him a cape!

4. Norman Osborn, not NOT the Goblin. I don't care about ASM 122, ever since the Clone Saga Norman Osborn has been fantastically manipulative and evil only when not in costume. In ocstume he's very poor these days, out of costume he's such an evil monster I would like nothing better than to punch him in the face- his current role in Thunderbolts is an example, but I also rememebr him buying the Daily Bugle and taking away, piece by piece, everything Spider-Man loved just before the spectacularly unimpressive "Final Chapter" and reboot

5. Loki. For everything above. Plus he is unashamedly 2 dimensional, and brilliant for it. Ridiculous schemes, but don't tell him that or he'll blow you away, fool!

Honourable Mention: Mysterio, for a kickass cape, and Ultron for Ultron Unlimited in addition to so much more. Captain Cold, because he's surprisingly deep for such a.... should-be-minor character. 52 is making me like Black Adam as well but he's more anti hero than villain.

[balok]

Well, the villains I like change from time to time, but right now they'd have to be:

Ultron - no question this is a top drawer bad guy. I'm just going to block on whatever Bendis is doing in Mighty, which looks like a disaster in progress.

Kang - the closest I think anyone came to writing him properly is Busiek in V3. Very, very dangerous.

Galactus - chiefly because he's not really evil in the strictest sense, more like a force of nature.

Thanos - chiefly because he IS evil in the strictest sense, and because of the scope of his schemes.

Morlun - the best Spider-villain to arrive in a long time. Green Goblin topped this list under Marvel made the *huge* mistake of returning him from the dead, where he should have stayed.

Honorable Mention goes to the current Iron Man, the Judas of the superhero crowd who sold out his friends and associates for political power and public adulation.

[Doctor Doom]

I was willing to bet on how long it would be before someone said Iron Man, but I would have guessed RSC before Balok got the chance

[Nutcase65]

yeah, I was sorts waitin' on that as well.

I also notice YOU PEOPLE WILL NOT RESPECT BOUNDARIES

Honorable mentions,... sheesh

[spiderwasp]

nutcase65 said:

I also notice YOU PEOPLE WILL NOT RESPECT BOUNDARIES

Honorable mentions,... sheesh

Did you, at some point, say "No honorable mentions?" What you asked for is people's top 5. Every single person has given you that. Not one has in any way been ambivilant as to who was on their list. Honorable mentions are just characters that didn't make the top 5 but came close and are thrown in as a bonus.

If you want your boundaries respected, you have to establish them.

[Nutcase65]

did you not notice the ?

Most of the time writing the number 5 establishes the boundary.

I don't really care, it was a joke, but appearantly you like to comlain so there is your explanation. 5 is a boundary.

If I tell you that I want 5 dollars for my comic book. I've set that boundary. I don't mind if you want to 'Honor' me by giving me more. But 5 was the boundary.

Learn to let people have fun

[spiderwasp]

nutcase65 said:

did you not notice the ?

Most of the time writing the number 5 establishes the boundary.

I don't really care, it was a joke, but appearantly you like to comlain so there is your explanation. 5 is a boundary.

If I tell you that I want 5 dollars for my comic book. I've set that boundary. I don't mind if you want to 'Honor' me by giving me more. But 5 was the boundary.

Learn to let people have fun

I guess I was torn by the combination of wink and ALL CAPS which indicates yelling at people.

[Nutcase65]

anybody else notice that this guy didn't come on this thread to post along the lines of the threads very fun topic? He just wants to come in and try to start trouble?

Doom I think someone is trying to horn in on your actions.

Using all caps does not just indicate yelling. In this case it was used to indicate mock frustration.

For someone who uses the Icon you use, you sure are a joykiller.

Why don't you tell us your top 5, or do you just want to keep on being a meanie?

[Doctor Bong]

Interesting nobody mentioned Magneto... is it, you think because, in the stricter sense, he's NOT a villian, like Galactus...?
Remember how he was placed with the heroes by the Beyonder during Secret Wars...?

[Doctor Bong]

Who is the Tick's archnemesis, by the way...?

[Doctor Doom]

I COMPELTELY forgot.

Move Loki out of my top 5, everyone else but Doom down one and stick Magneto at number 2.

[balok]

Iron Man was thrown in as a joke, and because folks would expect it from me. The real contributions are the five preceding him. That's why he got an "honorable mention."

I toyed with putting Doctor Doom in my list because he's certainly a classic. He got left out because I've always been more of an Avengers and Spider-Man fan than a Fantastic Four fan. He's certainly more threatening to the FF than Galactus, but Galactus has given all sorts of people trouble at one time or another.

Taskmaster is an excellent concept, and I'd like to see more of him back in his original and much cooler costume, but he's not in the same class as my other picks.

[Nutcase65]

Bong-boy

for your first post, I think this board, while not being anti-mutant definitely doesn't seem to be mutant frenzied. Maybe that's why.
He's also sort of one dimensional. All you get is 'homo superior, homo-superior' it just gets old

I apologize if anyone was gonna pick him

your 2nd post- I would have to say Chairface Chippendoll. He's a leader of bad men. Also ninjas. Not kidding.

[Nutcase65]

oops sorry Doom, I wrote that while you were writing.

[Doctor Doom]

Of course, Balok, you have too much class to do that seriously.

Nutcase, I think you're WAAAAY offbase on this one. Magneto is possible the most 3 dimensional villain there is and was 3d way back when most were still spouting the same 2d rhetoric.

If I were in his place, I'd sure as HELL have taken the path he did.

[Nutcase65]

I said I was sorry.

[balok]

Magneto's big problem from my perspective is that he can't decide whether to be a villain or a hero. I picked guys who are either oblivious to the struggles of lesser beings (Galactus), or are bad to the bone.

[Doctor Doom]

It's that struggle which always makes him FAR more interesting to me than hateful caricatures like the Red Skull used to be though

[Doctor Bong]

1) Doctor Doom
2) Thanos
3) Mandarin
4) Loki
5) Ultron

[Nutcase65]

Thanos is a good one too.

[Doctor Bong]

I must confess I have a soft spot for Graviton as well, but he doesn't make my list because he just doesn't seem EVIL enough...

[spiderwasp]

nutcase65 said:

anybody else notice that this guy didn't come on this thread to post along the lines of the threads very fun topic? He just wants to come in and try to start trouble?

Doom I think someone is trying to horn in on your actions.

Using all caps does not just indicate yelling. In this case it was used to indicate mock frustration.

For someone who uses the Icon you use, you sure are a joykiller.

Why don't you tell us your top 5, or do you just want to keep on being a meanie?

For the record, although I did not post on this thread yet, if you look back at your initial thread, you may notice that I was the one who first posted honorable mentions. That might explain why I took the comment personally. All I said to you was that you hadn't pointed out that you wanted people only to list 5 and that if you had intended that, you should have pointed it out. Granted, I should have taken more notice of the wink, but if you reread what I said, it wasn't that negative.
As for my top 5, I will post them after giving it a bit more thought.

[Nutcase65]

so it takes less thought to jump on a thread and be needlessly critical, OK. Makes sense.

Feel free to post your 5 at any time.

No one will be critical of YOUR choices.