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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 18, 2007 21:24:04 GMT -5
Just got through this one,
I forget who pointed it out, but these older issues do take more time to get through. I think it probably has something to do with the multitude of thought captions. I'm glad I gave up thinking, it can get tiresome.
OK this follows up the bits and pieces of Hercs story line from the previous issue. Herc has the opportunity to make amends with his pop, while the Avengers have to confront Typhon, who is responsible for having banished all of the gods.
You get several views into Ares self-pitying whining. You read these, you can see Marvel leading up to Ares vs. Hercules real soon.
Anyhow, Giant man is changing more towards ant-man at this point. Hawkeye gets a few shots off. Herc comes back from banishment to finish Typhon off with some high power wrestling slams. It really was a good fight I thought.
After gaining his victory, Herc bids his new allies a fond fairwell and goes back home, causing Ares to whine a little more.
I enjoyed it. I really like getting back into these older issues. It's almost like actual history,.. I know how sad that sounds.
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Mar 19, 2007 12:23:16 GMT -5
Is this the one where the fight takes place somewhere in the Mediterranean Sea? I remember that as a very good battle. Typhon was protrayed as a truly devastating threat. It's like I could feel the thunder of his blows when he swang that funny-looking weapon around. Don Heck has an uncanny ability to portray the sense of BOOM!
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Post by dlw66 on Mar 19, 2007 12:38:30 GMT -5
If you're thinking Mediterranean Sea and Don Heck, then this isn't it. This is the issue where Typhon has usurped power on Mount Olympus, and Herc comes to "take it back", so to speak. It is a battle royale, in the very best John Buscema art this period had to offer. This is the issue where the team consists solely of Hawkeye, Goliath, and the Wasp. Herc is on a leave of absence, Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch are in league with Magneto, and Cap has given up being Cap. However, in the next issues (#51), Iron Man and Thor will make appearances, and in issue #52 the Black Panther comes aboard.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 19, 2007 15:25:23 GMT -5
They are in the mediterranian.
It was a very good fight. One of my favorites up to this point. Fightwise.
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Post by dlw66 on Mar 20, 2007 8:22:06 GMT -5
They are in the mediterranian. OK, as a social studies teacher I'm a little confused by the geography here. I do not recall that this battle took part in the Mediterranean Sea, as bored suggested. To the best of my recollection, all of the fighting was done on Mt. Olympus. Now, if you want to say the Greek isles are part of the Mediterranean Seas area, you'd have an argument (although Greece is much better associated with the Aegean Sea). However, given that the fight was land-based I'm not sure what the insistence is... |
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 20, 2007 15:16:03 GMT -5
DLW the fight in issue 49 took place on Mt Olympus. The fight in 50 takes place in the Mediterranian.
Typhon and Herc initially fight on Olympus, Herc gets sent to wherever the other gods are and Typhon goes toe Earth. Then in issue 50 he starts blowing up ships in the Mediterranian.
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Post by dlw66 on Mar 20, 2007 16:39:07 GMT -5
Gotcha. What was frustrating about this is that I (no kidding) read this the same day you made your original post, and couldn't for the life of me remember anything about the stinkin' Mediterranean Sea! After just looking it up on the DVD-ROM, I can see why -- the Sea is included in 3 panels!!! Now, not to nitpick, but I guess that yeah, the battle does take place NEAR the Mediterranean Sea, but the fight between the Avengers and Typhon is land-based, my friends.
So, I stand corrected and vindicated at the same time. But, because I'm a swell guy, I'll dole out a little karma just for the sake of good-naturedness!
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 20, 2007 20:39:39 GMT -5
If you look back I said 'in the mediterranian' You don't actually have to be in the sea to be in the mediterranian. I believe it also applies to the geographical area.
But I am no professor.
Another thing that his two parter shows is Ares' attitude and personality. The chip on his shoulder thing.
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Post by dlw66 on Mar 20, 2007 21:36:11 GMT -5
And I think a great example of why he shouldn't be an Avenger today!
See also The Champions #1-3 for more of this surly character...
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Mar 21, 2007 14:02:19 GMT -5
Well, I don't know why - -but for some reason, all I remembered was the Mediterranean setting. I have no idea what Ares had to do with it.
This thread should be re-titled "new avatar" thread.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 21, 2007 22:31:08 GMT -5
Ares wasn't directly involved. He was just one of the gods that had been banished from Olympus. His main role was looking over Zues' shoulder and whining about Hercules getting all the attention.
Sorta like Loki, with more muscles, less brains and no sense of humor.
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Post by dlw66 on Mar 23, 2007 11:33:32 GMT -5
Ares wasn't directly involved. He was just one of the gods that had been banished from Olympus. His main role was looking over Zues' shoulder and whining about Hercules getting all the attention. Sorta like Loki, with more muscles, less brains and no sense of humor. Yes, but that's exactly my point about why he shouldn't be in the Avengers. I think another issue that is significant throughout Hercules's run on the team in this era is Herc's incredible strength, which seems limitless. Consequently, the team went up against some very powerful foes in the late #30's through this issue: Namor, Dragon Man, the Super-Adaptoid, Typhon, Magneto (although Herc wasn't involved in that storyline). |
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 23, 2007 14:28:37 GMT -5
We aare in agreement about his current status DLW. Another issue is his temperment. He has always been almost completely self seving. Oh wait, that makes him a PEFECT fit for the MA ;D
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