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Post by Shiryu on Apr 29, 2006 8:54:10 GMT -5
I thought it would have been nice to have a topic to ask about past issues holes you have or things you have not completely understood.
I'll start: in the "journey inside the Vision" (or something like that) story, right before the Kree/Skrull war, just before coming out Ant Man notices something inside the synthezoid's body, but then has to run away and doesn't mention it anymore. A small footnote says that, maybe, that will be the topic for another story. Has it ever been explained what he saw ? Was it Ultron's crystal ? (the one he tool out after attempting world control) or something else ?
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Apr 29, 2006 9:15:02 GMT -5
It was referred to in issues 132 or 133 or something around there -- the flashback stories that showed Vision was reconstructed from t he original Human Torch. I don't think it was ever really described -- what it was -- but it was linked to Vision's identity as the Human Torch. The letters page say that the clue was planted way back when, and that this was a masterpiece of foreshadowing and long term plot development.
I loved when he ripped out that crystal -- that's probably a better explanation than was explicitly given in the books.
Great idea for a thread. Can 't think of any others though.
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Post by von Bek on May 2, 2006 8:48:30 GMT -5
Here´s one: In the Avengers/Squadron Supreme Annual (1998) how did Firestar manages to "talk" to the ants to inform Hank Pym where both teams were confined?
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Post by dlw66 on May 2, 2006 9:05:25 GMT -5
I have two: How did Al Milgrom get a job drawing the Avengers? How did Brian Bendis get a job writing the Avengers? ;D
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Post by Black Knight on May 2, 2006 11:57:23 GMT -5
I have two: How did Al Milgrom get a job drawing the Avengers? How did Brian Bendis get a job writing the Avengers? ;D I can't answer the first one, but Bendis is good friends with Joe Q and he is what is called the Hot Writer, meaning that people are buying into the publicity that Joe Q spews.
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Post by dlw66 on May 2, 2006 12:53:06 GMT -5
Oh I know -- I was more or less just being a pain in the butt.
Cool topic. When I read the Kree/Skrull War tpb last year, I noticed what shiryu said about Ant-Man.
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Post by Black Knight on May 2, 2006 13:12:14 GMT -5
Oh I know -- I was more or less just being a pain in the butt. Cool topic. When I read the Kree/Skrull War tpb last year, I noticed what shiryu said about Ant-Man. I know, I just was having fun. On the Ant-man thing, that is interesting, to bad the current writer, does not really care about continuum.
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Post by Shiryu on May 3, 2006 8:23:00 GMT -5
I'll put in another one: Has it ever being said if, when the Vision uses his "phasing" attack, increasing his density inside an enemy, it's painfull for him too ?
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Post by dlw66 on May 3, 2006 8:26:41 GMT -5
That is a fantastic question, and really speaks to individual writers handling him as either a human android or an android human. Yeah, I know that synthezoid covers both scenarios... But do you see what I mean? Certain authors have dealt with him as searching for his feelings, with pain, emotion, etc. There is no doubt that he can feel physical pain -- I've seen Aaarrggghhhh! above his head when he's getting blasted a bunch of times. But in terms of your specific question, I guess I've never seen him show discomfort at doing this operation.
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Post by Shiryu on May 3, 2006 8:37:24 GMT -5
Thinking about it, I remember something: during the Nefaria Protocols, he phases most of his own body inside Nefaria, and Wanda says that the strain is as big for Vision as it is for Nefaria... Wonder if there have been similar situations in the past
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Post by Shiryu on May 14, 2006 7:39:35 GMT -5
I have another one: does Hawkeye personally fabricate all his arrows ? I wonder because many of them are really high tech, but I don't think he ever showed special engineering or invenctive skills like Peter Parker or Tony Stark.
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Post by The Night Phantom on May 14, 2006 8:12:27 GMT -5
I have another one: does Hawkeye personally fabricate all his arrows ? I wonder because many of them are really high tech, but I don't think he ever showed special engineering or invenctive skills like Peter Parker or Tony Stark. In Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, Hawkeye tells Jarvis that the arrowheads are made by the Tinkerer. This is when Hawkeye is still a renegade, before joining the team; I’m not sure if he switches suppliers to someone like Stark or the Wakandan Design Group after going legit.
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Post by dlw66 on May 14, 2006 17:13:58 GMT -5
You know, when you think about Hawkeye's unmatched skills as a marksman, they become all the more unbelievable when you consider that each of those arrowheads has a different weight and aerodynamic resistance to it. Given the postures he sometimes has to shoot from (and certainly the duress he's under in certain circumstances), you can really appreciate if a real person had to master those skills!
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Post by dlw66 on May 14, 2006 17:14:57 GMT -5
Here's a question:
If Superman always raced the Flash to see who the fastest person is in the DCU -- who would race Quicksilver in the Marvel Universe?
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Post by spiderwasp on May 14, 2006 18:26:22 GMT -5
Here's a question: If Superman always raced the Flash to see who the fastest person is in the DCU -- who would race Quicksilver in the Marvel Universe? It's been done. There was a huge race in the old Quasar series involving Quicksilver, Whizzer, Makarri of the Eternals and more. I can't really remember who won though.
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Post by The Night Phantom on May 14, 2006 21:12:41 GMT -5
Here's a question: If Superman always raced the Flash to see who the fastest person is in the DCU -- who would race Quicksilver in the Marvel Universe? It's been done. There was a huge race in the old Quasar series involving Quicksilver, Whizzer, Makarri of the Eternals and more. I can't really remember who won though. Actually—it was the Flash! A blond man in a tattered red and yellow costume, disoriented and thinking his name to be something like “Buried Alien”, appeared from another dimension, and the Runner declared him the winner. It was a nice tip of the hat to the Silver Age’s classic scarlet speedster. Quasar #17.
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Post by Shiryu on May 15, 2006 7:40:37 GMT -5
Oh, that's a nice inside joke. As for me, I think Photon is the fastest hero in the Marvel U, but she doesn't properly run so probably she is out of the contest.
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Post by dlw66 on May 15, 2006 7:48:46 GMT -5
Generally Hank Pym did not operate at a height in excess of 25 feet, usually Avenging in the 10-15 foot range. In Avengers #140, while Hank is passed out from a battle in the previous issue against the Whirlwind, he grows to approximately 150 feet (great panel of this as the Vision and Scarlet Witch are flying into New York from their honeymoon).
In Ultimates2, Pym remarks that the SHIELD agents using his formula have done what he could not: crack the 60-foot barrier.
What is the maximum height a conscious Hank Pym ever used as Giant-Man/Goliath?
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Post by Shiryu on May 15, 2006 8:05:11 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, around the end of volume 3 (in the issue where he has sex with Wasp), he is showed taller than the surrounding buildings, so probably more than 100 feet.
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Post by dlw66 on May 15, 2006 10:31:39 GMT -5
So when did his fear of growing cease? For a long time "the strain on his body was too much". Seemed like toward the end of Vol. I he was back to the Giant-Man/Goliath of days gone by...
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Post by The Night Phantom on May 15, 2006 16:19:33 GMT -5
Oh, that's a nice inside joke. As for me, I think Photon is the fastest hero in the Marvel U, but she doesn't properly run so probably she is out of the contest. At the time, Captain Marvel (as she was still calling herself) could no longer transform into energy and travel at lightspeed. She ran in the race but was disqualified for not touching the ground often enough.
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Post by Shiryu on May 16, 2006 7:59:25 GMT -5
So when did his fear of growing cease? For a long time "the strain on his body was too much". Seemed like toward the end of Vol. I he was back to the Giant-Man/Goliath of days gone by... I'm quite sure it's mentioned "en passant" during Busiek run in V3, when Perez was still the artist. I remember him briefly talking about it. Oh, that's interesting. At least the thought about including her in the race, it's a nice touch. Was Hulk there as well ? his leaps make him move rather fast.
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Post by The Night Phantom on May 16, 2006 15:40:21 GMT -5
Oh, that's interesting. At least the thought about including her in the race, it's a nice touch. Was Hulk there as well ? his leaps make him move rather fast. No, he wasn’t. Probably the Runner would disqualify leaping from a running race, too. (The Runner warned CM that she’d have to touch the surface every 50m or so.) And I doubt he’d outclass the competition, anyway. The contestants, other than the late-entry Buried Alien, were: - Black Racer (of the Serpent Society)
- Speed Demon
- Super-Sabre
- Quicksilver
- Captain Marvel (Rambeau)
- the Whizzer (of the Squadron Supreme)
- Makkari (who placed second)
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Post by Shiryu on May 17, 2006 9:15:52 GMT -5
You have to find out who won now We can't stay with the doubt
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Post by dlw66 on May 18, 2006 9:25:27 GMT -5
Sticking to the Hank Pym line of information, what then is the smallest he's ever gone? Obviously we've addressed the time he entered the Vision during the Kree/Skrull War arc. How small would you say that would be? He's never gone atomic size, like the Atom... An ant would be approximately 1/8 of an inch. You think smaller than that?
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Post by Shiryu on May 18, 2006 11:00:22 GMT -5
Nice one. As far as I know, Hank could become smaller than an ant (he stated so, at least at some point in his career, with him you never know), but never did. I guess it's because, as Ant Man, a lot of his power comes from his control over the ants, and that would be useless if he were smaller than the ants themselves
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Post by Yellowjacket on May 19, 2006 4:06:36 GMT -5
Don´t know how small Atom gets, but Pym was definitely smaller than an ant - that is I can´t visualize Pym at the size of an ant in Vision´s bloodstream.
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Post by Shiryu on May 19, 2006 7:52:13 GMT -5
Atom can literally became as small as an atom, even though he rarely uses his power so much (it's not that useful to be an atom ^^). I've once see him becoming dust size. I don't think Hank ever got this small, but this doesn't mean he can't.
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Post by dlw66 on May 20, 2006 19:38:46 GMT -5
Good thoughts on Pym.
I asked the following elsewhere (or at least made the observation): Around the time of the Serpent Crown/return of the Whizzer, etc. -- which would be Avengers #153-whenever, Wanda is shown flying. Are there any other issues or story arcs where she does this? I'm not talking about levitating, or some other witch-trance type of thing, I mean flying.
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Post by Shiryu on May 21, 2006 6:08:42 GMT -5
I remember one website (based on the handbooks) saying that, very rarely, she used her hex powers to take control of the wind and "fly". However, it's very rare. Indeed I remember many occansions where she is falling and someone has to catch her in mid air, or where she says "the Scarlet Witch doesn't fly".
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