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Post by Shiryu on Jul 20, 2009 16:49:08 GMT -5
The other day I clicked on one of the ads here in the forum and arrived in an online comic shop, which had a huge collection of tpb up for sale. Browsing the lists for both Marvel and DC, there were dozens and dozens of trades reprinting stories only a few years or even month old, but not so many older ones, or certainly not as many as there could have been.
Which series, saga or stories do you think deserve a tpb reprint/collection? Anyone you are waiting/hoping particularly for?
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Post by dlw66 on Jul 20, 2009 17:07:14 GMT -5
That's funny you should bring this up, Shiryu! I was lobbying just last week for a collection of the 1991-92 prestige format mini-series The Adventures of Captain America, Sentinel of Liberty.
I'm sure there are some I'd like to see back in print as well, but right off the top of my head I can't think of one.
I have enjoyed Marvel's recent trend of collecting short-lived series from the 1970's like The Champions, The Invaders, etc.
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Post by freedomfighter on Jul 20, 2009 22:11:38 GMT -5
I have to say Marvel and DC have been putting a LOT of stuff in TPB, old and new. Not too many complaints there.
I'm trying to think of what I don't have that I wish I did and not much is coming to mind.
Maybe the Nefaria saga? Is there an Avengers visionaries- Jim Shooter? Between Graviton and Nefaria, he did a pretty good job of beefing up the A-team's villain roster...
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Post by dlw66 on Jul 20, 2009 22:23:23 GMT -5
Thanks, FF! You gave me an idea.
I love the Marvel Visionaries hardcovers, which are career-spanning. I own the editions showcasing Roy Thomas, John Buscema, and John Romita. Certainly Shooter would be worthy, as would Gil Kane and Steranko (both have been given the tpb treatment --Kane's covers alone could fill a 200-page volume. A Marvel Horror Visionaries featuring the likes of Mike Ploog and P. Craig Russell might be nice.
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Post by Shiryu on Jul 21, 2009 7:51:47 GMT -5
a collection of the 1991-92 prestige format mini-series The Adventures of Captain America, Sentinel of Liberty. I don't think I've ever heard of it. Is it good? A few TPBs I would like are "Batman: Ten Nights of the Beast", "Avengers Infinity" (which is quite recent really, and yet to my knowledge has never been collected) and "Batman: Turning Points". I actually have read references to a paperback for Ten Nights of the Beast, but it doesn't seem to be on any online shop that I've searched, so I'm not sure if it actually exists. A pity if not, it's a great story. |
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Post by dlw66 on Jul 21, 2009 11:29:19 GMT -5
Here's one on Marvel's October solicitations -- not a story I would normally be looking for (in a dedicated sense -- since it's coming out I'm excited to get it), but I do recall having some of the original issues. This is appealing to me because it will be a FUN story -- all light and NO darkness!!   THING: PROJECT PEGASUS PREMIERE HC Written by Ralph Macchio, John Byrne and Mark Gruenwald, penciled by Sal Buscema, John Byrne and George Perez, covers by Byrne and Perez. Project: Pegasus hires the Ever-Lovin' Blue-Eyed One as a security chief, but what's the point if the place is already filled with super-villains in the first place? Featuring Hercules and Thundra, Deathlok and Dr. Strange, Captains America and Marvel, Man-Thing and...Classic Thing? Plus: action in Olympus and the Nexus, Hollywood and Yancy Street! New identities for three super heroes! All this and Super Hero Poker Night! What a deal! Collecting Marvel Two-in-One #42-43 & 53-58. 160 pages, $24.99. |
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Post by Tana Nile on Jul 21, 2009 11:54:39 GMT -5
The Project:Pegasus story was fantastic. The Thing at his best, creators at the top of their game, plus lots of great guest stars. My issues are worn out, so I'd really like to pick this up.
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Post by starfoxxx on Jul 21, 2009 15:30:42 GMT -5
Yeah those Project Pegasus stories were great. Lots of obscure Marvel heroes and villains, and of course the Thing, these are the type of fun stories I miss: they're few and far between these days.....
Hey, was there ever a TPB or hardcover of the first Secret Wars?
Also, the X-men issues with the Avengers and Spidey VS Kulan Gath (#190-191).
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Post by Shiryu on Jul 21, 2009 16:08:44 GMT -5
Not sure about the HC, but there certainly is a TPB. I bought it a few years ago, pretty big book.
The Project Pegasus story seems interesting. It's often been referred to, in Avengers or Marvel Team Up, and I think once or twice in Squadron Supreme as well.
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Post by sharkar on Jul 21, 2009 18:09:43 GMT -5
To elaborate on what Shiryu posted: yes, there is a Secret Wars tpb. I bought it a couple of years ago and it was my first exposure to Secret Wars. While I recognize a lot of it ignored then-contemporary continuity, I loved reading it as a "once and done" saga. It's Shooter doing what he does best (IMO): characterization. I was fascinated by the relationships and factions that developed, the friction between teams and between teammates, the alliances, etc. And in addition to the personal, Shooter addressed the universal. Great balance. www.amazon.com/Secret-Wars-Marvel-Super-Heroes/dp/078511873X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1248215518&sr=1-1BTW, there was a hardcover Omnibus edition published some months ago, for $99.99 (the going rate for the Omnibus editions, I guess); it contains SW 1-12 plus additional material. I believe you can find it discounted on online vendors such as Amazon. marvel.com/catalog/?id=10273 |
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Post by humanbelly on Jul 21, 2009 21:02:20 GMT -5
To elaborate on what Shiryu posted: yes, there is a Secret Wars tpb. I bought it a couple of years ago and it was my first exposure to Secret Wars. While I recognize a lot of it ignored then-contemporary continuity, I loved reading it as a "once and done" saga. It's Shooter doing what he does best (IMO): characterization. I was fascinated by the relationships and factions that developed, the friction between teams and between teammates, the alliances, etc. And in addition to the personal, Shooter addressed the universal. Great balance. www.amazon.com/Secret-Wars-Marvel-Super-Heroes/dp/078511873X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1248215518&sr=1-1BTW, there was a hardcover Omnibus edition published some months ago, for $99.99 (the going rate for the Omnibus editions, I guess); it contains SW 1-12 plus additional material. I believe you can find it discounted on online vendors such as Amazon. marvel.com/catalog/?id=10273Okay, okay--- since lots of you folks have read this--- did the Wasp sleep w/ Magneto or did she not? It's REALLY strongly implied--- but I've never heard it addressed. I've always assumed she had. HB |
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Post by Shiryu on Jul 22, 2009 10:02:15 GMT -5
Okay, okay--- since lots of you folks have read this--- did the Wasp sleep w/ Magneto or did she not? It's REALLY strongly implied--- but I've never heard it addressed. I've always assumed she had. HB I suppose we'll never know for certain, it seems to have been brushed under a carpet. As you said, it's implied, since they are last seen kissing passionately and the morning after he is producing a comb for her. But it would be a rather odd behaviour for Janet (not much different from when she sleeps with Clint before Disassembled). |
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Post by Tana Nile on Jul 22, 2009 10:17:42 GMT -5
Okay, okay--- since lots of you folks have read this--- did the Wasp sleep w/ Magneto or did she not? It's REALLY strongly implied--- but I've never heard it addressed. I've always assumed she had. HB I suppose we'll never know for certain, it seems to have been brushed under a carpet. As you said, it's implied, since they are last seen kissing passionately and the morning after he is producing a comb for her. But it would be a rather odd behaviour for Janet (not much different from when she sleeps with Clint before Disassembled). It does seem out of character for the Wasp, but a number of other characters in the SW also seem 'off'. I don't know if Shooter was unaware of some of the characters or just chose to ignore their established personalities. But that's one of the reasons (there are others) that I've never liked SW. |
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Post by sharkar on Jul 22, 2009 15:47:36 GMT -5
Okay, okay--- since lots of you folks have read this--- did the Wasp sleep w/ Magneto or did she not? It's REALLY strongly implied--- but I've never heard it addressed. I've always assumed she had. I agree. When I first read Secret Wars a couple of years ago (and in subsequent re-readings since then), I too assumed they slept together--two passionate people, trapped together while a storm rages outside  , and then the "postcoital" comb scene. For me, it's in keeping with Jan as I've always seen her--sophisticated, extroverted, independent...and with a healthy appreciation of the opposite sex. (Visually Jan's always reminded me of Natalie Wood; but in personality I always thought of her as similar to Julie Christie's early movie persona--the "with it", flirtatious beauty with a sharp mind). And as HB says, it's never (to my knowledge) been addressed or acknowledged. In fact, a few years after Secret Wars, in West Coast Avengers #56-57 (which I also read just a couple of years ago; it's part of Byrne's "Darker than Scarlet" arc), Mags comes face to face with a group of Avengers--including Jan--and there's no mention--no utterance or a thought bubble or editorial caption--of any past association, so... who knows? Still, in "my" reading of Secret Wars, I assume they did sleep together. (Hmmm, maybe they both wanted to forget the encounter because it was less than satisfying?  ) |
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Post by Doctor Bong on Jul 24, 2009 6:42:47 GMT -5
I suppose we'll never know for certain, it seems to have been brushed under a carpet. As you said, it's implied, since they are last seen kissing passionately and the morning after he is producing a comb for her. But it would be a rather odd behaviour for Janet (not much different from when she sleeps with Clint before Disassembled). It does seem out of character for the Wasp, but a number of other characters in the SW also seem 'off'. I don't know if Shooter was unaware of some of the characters or just chose to ignore their established personalities. But that's one of the reasons (there are others) that I've never liked SW. Would you care to elaborate on those other reasons why you didn't like SW, Tana? |
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Post by betaraybill on Jul 24, 2009 14:16:50 GMT -5
Okay, okay--- since lots of you folks have read this--- did the Wasp sleep w/ Magneto or did she not? It's REALLY strongly implied--- but I've never heard it addressed. I've always assumed she had. I agree. When I first read Secret Wars a couple of years ago (and in subsequent re-readings since then), I too assumed they slept together--two passionate people, trapped together while a storm rages outside , and then the "postcoital" comb scene. For me, it's in keeping with Jan as I've always seen her--sophisticated, extroverted, independent...and with a healthy appreciation of the opposite sex. (Visually Jan's always reminded me of Natalie Wood; but in personality I always thought of her as similar to Julie Christie's early movie persona--the "with it", flirtatious beauty with a sharp mind). And as HB says, it's never (to my knowledge) been addressed or acknowledged. In fact, a few years after Secret Wars, in West Coast Avengers #56-57 (which I also read just a couple of years ago; it's part of Byrne's "Darker than Scarlet" arc), Mags comes face to face with a group of Avengers--including Jan--and there's no mention--no utterance or a thought bubble or editorial caption--of any past association, so... who knows? Still, in "my" reading of Secret Wars, I assume they did sleep together. (Hmmm, maybe they both wanted to forget the encounter because it was less than satisfying? ) It was the 80's, we were all still so innocent (until Madonna and George Michael RUINED it for us!!!). Remember when Tony Stark spent the night at a "lady friend's" apartment after a party? He woke up thinking "gee, it sure was nice of her to let me crash on her couch last night. I sure was tired..." Ha! As I kid, I never suspected... the truth... |
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Post by sharkar on Sept 23, 2009 18:20:23 GMT -5
I'm probably the only one who buy this, but TPBs (or Marvel Premiere Classics) I'd like to see would focus on the Silver Age rise and fall of two of my favorite characters--Wanda and Pietro-- the road they took to get to the Avengers, and their ignominious exit from the team back then. (And yes, I know all of these stories are already available in various Essentials and Masterworks volumes, but I can dream can't I??). Volume One "Wanda and Pietro: the Early Years" would contain the following: -X-Men #4 (the twins' debut as members of Magneto's Brotherhood) -X-Men #5 -X-Men #6 (sparks fly between Namor and Wanda!) -X-Men #7 -Journey Into Mystery # 109 (Wanda and Pietro don't have much panel time here, though; it's mostly Magneto vs. Thor) -Strange Tales #128 (Wanda and Pietro battle the Torch and the Thing) -and for Volume One's coda: excerpts from Avengers #16 (the parts that involve Wanda and Pietro) Volume Two "Fall From Grace" would contain the following: -Avengers #47 (Magneto traps Wanda and Pietro) -Avengers #48 -Avengers #49 -X-Men #43 -X-Men #44 (just the opening pages in which Wanda and Pietro appear; no need to include the Angel-Red Raven action here!) -X-Men #45 -Avengers #53 I even have the covers picked out. For Volume One I'd want X-Men #4's cover image, complete with the original (incorrect!) colors. And I'd want Avengers #49 featured on Volume Two's cover...   ...though since the X-Men are so freakin' popular, Marvel would probably use Avengers #53's cover image instead for Volume Two  (Well, both #49 and #53 are by Buscema...so either way you really can't lose! ;D)  Merry Marvel Marketing at its Mightiest! |
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Post by ultron69 on Sept 24, 2009 7:07:02 GMT -5
That is an interesting idea, Sharkar. I've already got all of those isssues in reprint format, but since Pietro and Wanda did bounce around between the Brotherhood and the Avengers, this would be a nice way of capturing their Silver Age "biography". I love the cover to Avengers #53. I guess I'm just a sucker for those 'superhero teams facing off' covers.
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Post by defdave on Sept 24, 2009 10:49:01 GMT -5
It's amazing to me that the Stern era is such a highly regarded era in the book's history yet there are so few trades from that run.
They did "Under Siege" a few years ago. As far as I know, that's it.
They need to re-release that. They need to do the follow-up arc "War on Olympus". I want to see the Fall and Trial of Hank Pym (relevant issues between #211 and 230, about a dozen).
The "Wife Slap" has probably affected the perception and editorial handling of Hank more than any other single panel has ever affected any other character, yet it went without reprint until last year's "Avengers: Requiem"
Give me Englehart's "Lost in Time" story from West Coast Avengers, the Mockingbird/Night Rider stuff, there's more if I had time to think...
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Post by sharkar on Sept 25, 2009 10:36:03 GMT -5
It's amazing to me that the Stern era is such a highly regarded era in the book's history yet there are so few trades from that run. They did "Under Siege" a few years ago. As far as I know, that's it. Stern's Kang arc from Avengers #267-269 (which immediately preceded the Under Siege arc) was reprinted in the Avengers "Time and Time Again" tpb. One of Stern's elements that I really liked was Dane's infatuation with Jan--Dane's always hovering around her and saying things like "You're a great leader, Jan!"  I love the cover to Avengers #53. I guess I'm just a sucker for those 'superhero teams facing off' covers. Yes, "clash" covers have long been a staple of superhero comics...and Big John produced two of the best: the aformentioned #53 and a few months later, Avengers Special #2.  |
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Post by woodside on Oct 9, 2009 21:27:09 GMT -5
I'm probably the only one who buy this, but TPBs (or Marvel Premiere Classics) I'd like to see would focus on the Silver Age rise and fall of two of my favorite characters--Wanda and Pietro-- the road they took to get to the Avengers, and their ignominious exit from the team back then. (And yes, I know all of these stories are already available in various Essentials and Masterworks volumes, but I can dream can't I??). Volume One "Wanda and Pietro: the Early Years" would contain the following: -X-Men #4 (the twins' debut as members of Magneto's Brotherhood) -X-Men #5 -X-Men #6 (sparks fly between Namor and Wanda!) -X-Men #7 -Journey Into Mystery # 109 (Wanda and Pietro don't have much panel time here, though; it's mostly Magneto vs. Thor) -Strange Tales #128 (Wanda and Pietro battle the Torch and the Thing) -and for Volume One's coda: excerpts from Avengers #16 (the parts that involve Wanda and Pietro) Volume Two "Fall From Grace" would contain the following: -Avengers #47 (Magneto traps Wanda and Pietro) -Avengers #48 -Avengers #49 -X-Men #43 -X-Men #44 (just the opening pages in which Wanda and Pietro appear; no need to include the Angel-Red Raven action here!) -X-Men #45 -Avengers #53 I even have the covers picked out. For Volume One I'd want X-Men #4's cover image, complete with the original (incorrect!) colors. And I'd want Avengers #49 featured on Volume Two's cover... ...though since the X-Men are so freakin' popular, Marvel would probably use Avengers #53's cover image instead for Volume Two (Well, both #49 and #53 are by Buscema...so either way you really can't lose! ;D) Merry Marvel Marketing at its Mightiest! I read most of these a number of years ago and I'm still amazed that Marvel never did a TPB similair to this one when "House of M" was happening. As you'll see in my AA! article, these are critical issues for the Maximoffs and Magneto! |
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