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Post by Nutcase65 on May 6, 2007 16:04:40 GMT -5
I know at least some of you have gone to see this.
How did you like it?
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Post by dlw66 on May 6, 2007 18:35:50 GMT -5
I just returned home about an hour ago and I LOVED IT!!!! The story was paced well-enough, the action scenes were exciting (they continue to come up with a cool new webslinging peril in each film -- earlier it was swinging between a semi and its trailer, in this one look out for that crane!!), and I was worried that I'd feel the film was too crowded with characters (a la Batman Forever). But to my pleasant surprise everything seemed to jell and work quite well.
Of course, with any film of this scope the effects are the true star and this was no letdown. The Sandman, Goblin, and Venom are all done quite well; I particularly was grateful for seeing a Venom with no wagging tongue and done a little "chunky" as McFarlane first drew him.
And the stage is set for Spider-Man 4... I do hope Tobey Maguire re-ups for it; he's said he's not interested.
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Post by Nutcase65 on May 6, 2007 20:05:15 GMT -5
Not interested? Oh, don't say that. He's done a good job so far.
So did Topher sell Venom fairly well?
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Post by Alchemist-X on May 6, 2007 20:40:45 GMT -5
I liked Topher as Venom, he conveyed a very Eddie Brock attitude, and towards the end he really had his hate on for spidy/peter parker.
Good and enjoyable, also ties things up pretty good in case the next spiderman has a new creative team and/or new actors. There are definately new enemies to bring in but if Spiderman had to be a trilogy, it would be solid.
I also liked how evil the Suit made Spiderman, that is addressed better in the movie than most of the other translations (Comic, ultimate comic, cartoons games etc)
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Post by spiderwasp on May 6, 2007 20:42:47 GMT -5
Not interested? Oh, don't say that. He's done a good job so far. So did Topher sell Venom fairly well? I thought Topher did a great job, as did Thomas Hayden Church, though I was more expecting him to work. I was a little surprised at how well Topher worked. Overall, I agree that the movie was great. I know that I want to see it again on the big screen before I buy the DVD. As far as the cast possibly coming back, I agree that I hope Toby does from the perspective that he has done a great job with all three movies, but I wish they would all act like they appreciate what they have. Every time Tobey or Kirsten (Or James Franco) appear on a talk show, they sound like the whole thing is just drudgery with comments like "Well, we've done two already so it's just like 'here we go again'" or "It's not really the kind of movie I want to make." They are in the positions of making incredible amounts of money to do jobs that most ofthe world would kill for so they could at least act appreciative. Furhermore, you have Kirsten Dunst in Entertainment Weekly quoted as saying about Spider-man 4 "Audiences aren't stupid. It'd be a big flop with me, Tobey, or Sam." I hate to tell her but as great as I think Tobey has done, she is merely adequate as MJ. Even regarding Tobey, if James Bond could continue after Sean Connery and Batman and Superman can go through so many changes, I believe Spidey can transend any of the cast members. I go to see the characters, not the actors. I think Kirstin just has too high an opinion of herself. Don't get me wrong. This doesn't take away from my enjoyment of Spider-man 3. As I said, it was great.
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Post by Van Plexico on May 6, 2007 22:51:48 GMT -5
I thought the "set piece" action scenes were very good.
I thought the bits with "crazy" Peter Parker were awesome.
I love the "Ursula" character and was glad to see she got more face-time. She was left sort of hanging last time, which made little sense.
I was glad to see another entertaining turn by Bruce Campbell.
Otherwise, I thought it was the most contrived movie ever. Every single scene existed only to set up the next contrived scene. Jeez!
That script needed at least one more rewrite....
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Post by dlw66 on May 7, 2007 7:26:08 GMT -5
See, I don't go there to analyze. I just want to be mindlessly entertained for two hours and 19 minutes. And I was.
And in a comic book, same thing -- just give me good stuff that will occupy about 15-20 minutes of my time and make me remember it afterwards.
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Post by dlw66 on May 7, 2007 8:36:53 GMT -5
I read on the Internet this morning that Sony has ordered three more Spider-Man films. Of course, this is at the production level and has nothing to do with casting.
Spiderwasp, your assessment of Kirsten Dunst is dead on. In fact, I would not mind if she decided not to do the next picture(s) and the story began to focus on Gwen Stacy.
BTW, who is this Topher Grace fellow that everyone seems so worried that he would "work" or not work in the role of Venom? He seemed fine to me -- a little like Eddie Haskel, for those of you old enough to know who that is!
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Post by Doctor Doom on May 7, 2007 9:09:37 GMT -5
Best of the trilogy and one of the best hero movies ever IMO. Less of a conclusion to the trilogy though, and more of it's own individual story. Venom was barely seen, but when he was on screen he was a force of nature who kicked Peter's ass, just as it should be. Less than ten minutes of screentime yet easil the second biggest threat Peter ever faced in the movies. He was played off as the Anti-Spidey in a good way.
THey also got just how much it should be about PETER, not SPIDEY. This was "Peter Parker, Guest-Starring Spider-Man". Sandman was fantastic, the final battle phenomenal, the CGI and music unforgettable. The Sandman transformation sequence was powerful and painful.
My only real complaints are Venom's "normal guy" voice from psychotic body... and Harry's plot fizzled and went out. It seems the ultimate revenge of the Goblins was to break up Peter and Mj and have a brawl in an apartment. Talk about anticlimax.
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Post by spiderwasp on May 7, 2007 14:58:19 GMT -5
BTW, who is this Topher Grace fellow that everyone seems so worried that he would "work" or not work in the role of Venom? He seemed fine to me -- a little like Eddie Haskel, for those of you old enough to know who that is! Topher's previous claim to fame was as the main character on "That 70s Show." Of course, he was younger then, but if you watch the show at all (Which I only occasionally did) then you certainly wouldn't think "Wow! That guy would make a great Eddie Brock." That's why I was surprised that he did.
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Post by Nutcase65 on May 7, 2007 15:05:30 GMT -5
BTW, who is this Topher Grace fellow that everyone seems so worried that he would "work" or not work in the role of Venom? He seemed fine to me -- a little like Eddie Haskel, for those of you old enough to know who that is! Like SW says. He plays Eric on a FOX program 'That 70's show' which I really liked. I just got so used to him in that role that I never really could see him as Venom, at all. I'm very glad that you all have mostly assured me I was wrong to jump to conclusions. Now if only that turns out to be true about Downey Jr.
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Post by Tana Nile on May 8, 2007 18:42:54 GMT -5
For the most part, I enjoyed it. I don't think it is nearly as good as either of its predecessors. It felt a bit over-stuffed and underdeveloped. As usual, the action sequences were outstanding. Otherwise, I thought it was the most contrived movie ever. Every single scene existed only to set up the next contrived scene. Jeez! That script needed at least one more rewrite.... I could not agree more! Well said.
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Post by balok on May 11, 2007 18:02:20 GMT -5
For sheer mindless entertainment, it delivered. The fight scenes were well-choreographed and believable, and the characters borrowed mostly faithfully from comic book lore. Comic book purists will certainly find complaints, especially around the origin of the Sandman and his connection to Peter Parker, but one must keep in mind (I feel) that movies are a different, more compact medium than comics.
Church played Flint Marko very well; Grace was less convincing as Venom, but not a wretched choice. As Doom says, a better voice would have improved him.
Some of the action sequences, especially MJ after Venom got ahold of her, were just this side of silly, but that's part of the comic book movie trope.
We get some nice scenes of Peter interacting with the various people in his civilian life, and Maguire pulled off black-suit Peter really well. A particular scene in a jazz club had me thinking what a rotten thing he did to someone. Just nasty.
THe biggest drawback was the sheer amount of material in the film. They tried to cram ten pounds of material into a five pound film and it showed; there was a clear sense of the film being too full. In particular, this rendered the Goblin subplot both rushed and incoherent - a real let down.
Bruce Campbell's appearance here was particularly enjoyable.
I probably won't go see it again. I almost certainly will purchase the DVD when it comes out.
I'd rate it eight of ten.
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Post by Engage on May 15, 2007 15:21:27 GMT -5
Did anyone else feel like for a movie with so much going on there was a huge dead spot in the middle where nothing was happening?
I liked it fine as a summer movie, not as much as the first two though. Topher Grace was the best thing in the entire movie.
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