Finding the Captain- Avengers movie or Cap movie?

[Doctor Doom]

Hey, all, Doom here again.

I was pondering while watching the 'Ultimate Avengers' movie which had finally arrived from the states. (Pretty good, all things considered) and a question popped into my mind, a biggie.

We all know it wouldn't be the Avengers without Captain America. We also know both Avengers AND Captain America movie projects are underway.

So here's my question, do you think Captain America should be 'discovered' (á la Avengers #4) in a Captain America movie or an Avengers movie? There are cases to be made for both:

Captain America Movie This would allow a full spotlight to really be shone on the Captain's world war II exploits and how exactly he came to be frozen in a block of ice anyhow. It would give the 'Man out of time' aspect a nice chance to shine, and wouldn't confuse movie-goers who hadn't seen the Avengers movie. In addition, it would give the Avengers movie one less character to introduce.

Avengers Movie: Captain America was originally found, both in 616 and in The Ultimates, by the Avengers, and he joined them almost straight away. This could add weight to the discovery as we are able to view the impact of his return from the point of view of the other heroes. It could also poise him as the major character, of course!


Note that while it would be necessary in both, I'm asking which it should happen in FIRST.

Myself, I would push for it to be in an Avengers movie, so that the Cap movie can almost spin OUT of it. It would keep fairly canoical in this way, and would show the real weight of Cap's return. This would lead to the Cap movie being able to deal more fully with himself and his reaction to his return in this new, different time. (I'd also put some flashbacks of how he was frozen/Bucky died into the Avengers movie, but retell it in detail in the Avengers movie)

So, thoughts?

[Tana Nile]

I agree, have the first Avengers movie focus on the discovery of Cap. It is also a way to introduce the other Avengers and their universe to the viewer - as Cap discovers them, so do we.

[dlw66]

How about this -- they do the Cap movie as a WWII flick, make it look all period a la the thingy (stupid censor!!!!!!! "Rich") Tracy movie, and the Cap/Bucky/rocket scene is the end of the movie? Sets up the Avengers film very nicely... The Avengers basically becomes a sequel to the Cap movie (as Ultimates #2 did to Ultimates #1).

[Doctor Bong]

I like your approach, dlw66...!

[Shiryu]

Yeah, I like Doug's idea too !
Otherwise I think it should happen in Cap's own movie, or in whichever comes out first. For a "new" character in the Avengers' movie, I'd look at the Vision.

[Nutcase65]

I think this would have to be an Avengers title

[Alchemist-X]

I also think it would be in the Avengers title first, with the Cap spin-off after

[fiero84]

I just read Avengers 'Masterworks' (reprints of early Avengers)where Captain America was found.
Also watched Ultimate Avengers movie.

I think the Ultimate Avengers movie, least to me, was more interesting the way Captain America was 'lost'. I loved the costume,sheild difference as well.

The old Avengers issue #4, I think, was too quick, seemed like a rush job how they explained away Cap's disappearance.

[redstatecap]

A Captain America movie needs to come first, and he should be found in the Avengers movie that spins out of it.
This makes Cap central to the team in the eyes of the masses who don't know that Cap is central to the team.

RSC