jkemble
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Post by jkemble on Oct 19, 2006 11:36:51 GMT -5
oh my god, I'm so tempted to start reading Marvel Adventures Avengers.
I can justify it by "alternate reality", but is it worth reading? Anyone?
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Post by dlw66 on Oct 19, 2006 12:04:47 GMT -5
It's not. Check the "Other Avengers-Related Comics" section at the bottom of the main page. I posted reviews of the first two issues a long time ago.
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jkemble
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Post by jkemble on Oct 20, 2006 22:29:54 GMT -5
okay, so, since I dropped all the core Civil War books, I've been jonesing for something to read, with an open mind as always. So, I hung out and read the Marvel Adventures Avengers digest, and just finished #5 (couldn't find #5).
here's my thoughts:
overall, I liked it, even though that seems unatural and weird.
but it has several endearing qualities like the fact that no one gets killed ever.
I hate to say it because it reflects poor on what we deem entertaining,
but I found the lack of death fresh.
Another thing that I like is because of the eclectic cast, the rogues gallery
has also morphed to reflect that. Like the Avengers fighting the Hulks villian.
I hope to see to Spidey and X foes later, but who knows, the whole thing's
gonna tank anyway.
issue #6 is Tony Bedard, who's work I've been reading for years in The Exiles,
he's pretty good with all that mixed reality stuff, which for me is a plus.
BUT
here's the bad. First the freshness wears off, and then the title disapears.
anyway, I think I see a trend forming of four issues story arcs by a rotating
cast of writers, easily reproduced as digest (which I'm sure is what Marvel Adventures is about)
but right now it's kinda new and fun!
I think...
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Post by Doctor Bong on Oct 20, 2006 23:02:04 GMT -5
I confess I'm reading it, too.
Well, yes, the writing's pretty simplistic (but STILL better than Bendis', IMO), as I think it's geared for children or pre-adolescents, but it does a certain degree of "Old Marvel-feel", I think...
It's fresh to see a corner of the Multiverse where the Avengers aren't going through grim, dark times, and where they still harbor friendly feelings for each other.
The thing I like best about it, I think, is that it seems like a very long "What If...?", where the question posed is: "What if the Hulk would have stayed with the Avengers, instead of quitting after issue #2...?".
And my only true complain: they STILL managed to give us, for good measure, Spider-Man & Wolverine as Avengers!!!
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Post by dlw66 on Oct 20, 2006 23:15:47 GMT -5
Have they identified Giant Girl yet? Has Storm shown any regality? Who were some villains after the second issue?
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jkemble
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Post by jkemble on Oct 21, 2006 22:31:22 GMT -5
I confess I'm reading it, too. Well, yes, the writing's pretty simplistic (but STILL better than Bendis', IMO), as I think it's geared for children or pre-adolescents, but it does a certain degree of "Old Marvel-feel", I think... It's fresh to see a corner of the Multiverse where the Avengers aren't going through grim, dark times, and where they still harbor friendly feelings for each other. The thing I like best about it, I think, is that it seems like a very long "What If...?", where the question posed is: "What if the Hulk would have stayed with the Avengers, instead of quitting after issue #2...?". And my only true complain: they STILL managed to give us, for good measure, Spider-Man & Wolverine as Avengers!!! word. I like your What If Hulk idea. I also like Storm as an Avenger ( pinch hitting for Thor ). seems like I remember she was on one of the Alternate Realities dipicted in that long Kang saga from the 80's. I would like to see her go to Asgard and become the Queen of Thunder ala the X-Men's Asgardian Wars. I wonder when we get to see the Black Panther? |
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Post by jkemble on Oct 21, 2006 22:43:26 GMT -5
They haven't came out and said anything yet, but it's for sure the Giant Girl from Young Avengers. Regality? no back stories yet, but she is the confermed second-in-command under Cap. Here's a brief vilainous breakdown: 1) Ultron is born and escapes 2) The Leader and the Abomination attack 3) Bent on revenge, Baron Zemo return 4) Masters of Evil (Ultron, Leader, Zemo and Abomination) 5) Loki appears and creates the Wrecker 6) The U-Foes are born 7) Juggernaught (not released) Have they identified Giant Girl yet? Has Storm shown any regality? Who were some villains after the second issue? |
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Post by The Night Phantom on Oct 22, 2006 3:45:19 GMT -5
They haven't came out and said anything yet, but it's for sure the Giant Girl from Young Avengers. In YA, Cassie Lang never took the “Giant-Girl” name, though she’s been called that. (She settled on “Stature”.) If she is indeed Marvel Adventures Avengers’ Giant Girl, then that makes two people on the team who have never been mainstream Avengers. Are you sure it’s Cassie? There was some speculation that it would be Janet Van Dyne, who in the mainstream Avengers briefly used the identity Giant Woman. |
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Post by jkemble on Oct 23, 2006 20:07:24 GMT -5
not positive, but it's a safe bet. ( I mean that it's Cassie )
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Post by von Bek on Oct 24, 2006 10:24:40 GMT -5
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Post by jkemble on Oct 24, 2006 19:32:18 GMT -5
Opps! My bad, it was the red hair and age throwing me off. d**n alternate realities!
here's what the writer had to say:
BK!: Switching gears to your other team book at Marvel, did you get to decide on the line-up for the Marvel Adventures Avengers, or was it already in place before you came on? It's really a who's who of Marvel characters.
Parker: It was largely in place, and they let me negotiate some. They wanted the characters that people unfamiliar with the comics might still recognize, which immediately meant Wolverine and Storm, Spider-Man and Hulk. Iron Man and Captain America were expected, because they are the big constants of any Avengers team. They thought Giant-Man would be good for visuals, and that's where I kept begging to use a Giant-Girl instead, because I wanted more women on the team.
BK!: Who is Giant-Girl under the mask? We haven't seen her secret identity revealed yet—is it a character original to the book, or does she have a "616" counterpart?
Parker: She's actually Janet Van Dyne. I was originally going to have her shrink to Wasp size as well, and they asked me to stick to big for simplicity's sake. Editorial is really big on these stories not being weighed down with continuity, so even though I wanted to show who she is and how her power came about, I'm not sure I'll ever get the space to do so.
BK!: As someone familiar with the mainstream Marvel Universe, do Wolverine and Storm seem to fit naturally in that group of heroes to you, or is there ever a little voice in your head saying, "But…they're X-Men! Feared and hated by the people they're sworn to protect!"
Parker: I was worried about Wolverine, but he worked fine once I started writing. Just like Beast transcended being an X character, I think those two could too. Storm easily.
BK!: So far we've seen Baron Zemo, Ultron, the Abomination and the Leader. What villains will the team be facing in the near future?
Parker: In my next arc, issues 9-12, you'll be seeing Morgan Le Fay and the Black Knight, the Sons of the Serpent, and one I think is going to be very popular—a very special MODOC story. I wish I could tell you more about that, but when you see the solicitation before long, you'll see what I mean.
BK!: Each issue has been a complete story told in one single issue. That doesn't happen very often in comics anymore these days. In fact, hardly anybody writes such short stories any more. Is it really hard to do?
Parker: Well I've got the hang of it now, but you have to keep things moving fast. The Adventures books shouldn't rely on people needing a previous issue to get the one they just discovered.
sorry friends, I'll be more careful not to propigate false romurs in the future, and thanks for smelling the b.s. and setting me straight vonbek.
peace!
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Post by kingb on Oct 26, 2006 8:43:46 GMT -5
I dropped it after about five issues. I'm not sure (if its stated intent is to get kids interested in comics) that it will accomplish that goal. Even if they don't realize that very few Avengers appear in the book.
For the record, I would've bet the farm that it was Cassie. In fact, I'm wondering if the artist(s) know(s) that it's Janet and not Cassie. It feels like they only recently made the decision. She's written like the junior member of the team.
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Post by ozbot on Oct 26, 2006 9:16:47 GMT -5
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Post by dlw66 on Oct 26, 2006 9:34:24 GMT -5
How about this guy, the Build-a-Figure coming from Marvel Legends Series 15???  |
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Post by Doctor Bong on Oct 26, 2006 11:32:34 GMT -5
Word, kingb, it's hardly a great read.
However, as my defense for reading it, I'll offer an (admitedly) feeble: "When I'm starving for some Avengers fare and I have to choose between Bendis & the Marvel Adventures version, I choose the MAA."
Boy, I can hardly wait for Earth's Mightiest Heroes 2 to get kick started...
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Post by kingb on Oct 26, 2006 12:57:22 GMT -5
Oh, believe me, I'm with you. The Bendis-Avengers (Bendvengers? Abenders?) is the last comic I'd buy. In working my way through the new Previews, I've selected numerous non-superhero comics for my future enjoyment.
I'd have more of an inclination to read MA Avengers if Hawkeye, Hank Pym, Vision, Thor, Scarlet Witch, etc. were in the book. Storm, Wolverine and Spider-Man...no thanks.
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