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Post by bobc on Apr 9, 2009 16:44:01 GMT -5
As if Marvel needed to sink any lower these days--I have bought three different Marvel comics in one month where major characters were eating people. The Blob ate the Wasp, the Hulk ate Wolverine's leg, and Yellowjacket bit the head off the Blob. AND in this other crappy comic I just bought called "Ex-(something)" (sorry it sucked so bad I can't recall the name), the Beast rips the arm off Modok, and in a later scene the X-Men have Wolverine's ripped apart body chained to a flying ship.
What is going on? This is what passes for plot developments these days? I happen to love cheesy slasher movies from the 80's but does that kind of stuff belong in comics? What happened to characters with nobility? Is that just completely gone now?
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Post by Shiryu on Apr 9, 2009 18:42:07 GMT -5
What sorts of comics where they?  The only ones of this kind that I've seen recently where those from the Marvel Zombies, but given the crazy nature of the story they were actually very funny to read. V4 #1 came out yesterday btw. |
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Post by Dr. Hank Pym on Apr 11, 2009 3:02:56 GMT -5
The Wasp being eaten by the Blob, Hank biting Blobbo's head off was in an issue of Ultimates, I think.  |
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Post by woodside on Apr 11, 2009 22:55:18 GMT -5
Ultimates Volume 3, right? Because, if so, it also doesn't count because entire comic is crap . . .
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Post by Tana Nile on Apr 13, 2009 18:47:37 GMT -5
have you guys been reading Green Lantern? I generally like Geoff John's work, but there's been a lot gratuitous gore in it. Not sure why we need to see folks puking blood, for example.
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Post by bobc on Apr 14, 2009 13:07:55 GMT -5
Hey I love zombie stuff and cheap gore is fine in that context! In fact, The Evil Dead Part2 is one of my favorite bad movies! But when did the Hulk and Hank Pym start eating people?
You know I think it's all in how you present it. Did you guys read Millar's parody of the Avengers in The Authority back in the 90's? There was tons of cheap gore in it, but the way it was presented was funny. It worked. At that time it was novel and most of it was tongue in cheek--but I don't think Millar could have continued that kind of thing for more than a few issues or it would have come off as cheap (in a bad way).
I just bought a comic, Ultimate Wolverine vs. The Hulk, where the Hulk breaks Wolverine into two pieces and they (the Hulk and Wolverine, not the two pieces) sit there and discuss, for pages, which leg the Hulk is going to eat. IMO it just seemed kind of--I don't know--cheap in a bad way. Although I do admit there were a couple of funny lines AND I found the idea of a new She-Hulk look to be kind of cool. The artwork was very nice.
I guess I am mostly objecting to Hank Pym biting the Blob's head off and then blowing himself up, needlessly. It was senseless cannibalism and suicide. Remember when Jean Grey sacrificed herself to save the others in the X-Men? And when the Swordsman sacrificed himself to save Mantis? Those deaths had nobility to them.
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Post by starfoxxx on Apr 14, 2009 14:41:05 GMT -5
Hey, I think I'm jumping on the "Zombie" bandwagon a little late, having missed out on Marvel Zombies 1 and 2 (except for Vol. 2, #2, I had to grab that Avengers-themed zombie cover).....
but I was pleasantly surprised by how enjoyable MZ 3 was (continuity-sticklers probably won't dig it, though, but there's no such thing anymore anyway, right?)
and MZ 4 #1 was a great read, too.
As for gore in comics, it doesn't bother me. I'd actually rather see blood and guts than overkill of sexual themes (like Wolvie and Jean practically "doing it" in Xmen 3) or overkill of profanity (again, in Xmen 3 (shame on you, Kitty Pryde), or Bendis giving Ms. Marvel, Luke Cage, or almost everybody a vicious case of "potty mouth").
Believe me, I loves my sex, violence, and profanity, but there's a place for everything, and the Marvel comics I was raised on didn't NEED that stuff. The stories were good enough without the "Hollywood-ication", if you will. But Joe Q just doesn't get it.
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Post by ultron69 on May 8, 2009 9:50:44 GMT -5
have you guys been reading Green Lantern? I generally like Geoff John's work, but there's been a lot gratuitous gore in it. Not sure why we need to see folks puking blood, for example. That seems to be a trend with Johns lately. For instance, Legion of 3 Worlds. |
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