Post by freedomfighter on Apr 7, 2009 23:36:25 GMT -5
OK, so I just got finished talking to a friend who tells me that Red Hulk beat up the current Thor, the Odin Power Thor. Now maybe there's something in the story that allowed for this. Personally, I don't care at this moment, it's just another brick in the wall - it's just that marvel is now continuously doing something they chided DC for for years and that caused DC a ton of problems.
Too much power.
The Sentry is supposed to have the power of thousand exploding suns? A million? Whatever, even one is really too much. I've read various scientific studies about just what we receive from the sun in terms of light energy. It's insane just the small portion that hits Earth is so powerful. That much force in one man could power the planet for probably 10,000 years and that's before exploding or going nova. Even if its just extreme hyperbole it's still ridiculous and by the way marvel says his powers are very likely limitless...
www.marvel.com/universe/Sentry_(Robert_Reynolds)
Thor? Before the Odin force he beat Galactus solo and has knocked a Celestial off their feet. With it, he's probably twice as powerful.
So before he was beating up the cosmic powers of the universe, and now he's twice as powerful...
Hulk? Well at one point he took a little while to get angry enough, so if you were the Abomination or Wendigo you could hit enough quick enough and Hulk would go down. Nowadays Hulk gets so angry he no longer needs to eat or sleep or breathe and his strength never seems to level off as shown in World War Hulk if he's annoyed enough, so he's always at limitless strength and will always win as he starts off so angry that you can't knock him out, and since his strength and stamina increases he'll never drop. I can't think of anything more boring than a character who will always get stronger than his opponent and is always mad and strong these days. It's the kind of thing that Mort Weisinger would've turned down back in the corniest days of Superman comics.
Red Hulk? By all accounts he seems stronger than Thor and Hulk who both seem to have nigh limitless power. So I guess he's limitless plus one. Will need more research, but just looking on line found where he punched the stuffing out of a Watcher.
Vulcan? Seems to have Phoenix level powers in the X-books. I don't read the X-Books anymore, but didn't they kill off Jean Grey partly because her character was simply too powerful?
Just a few off the top of my head, but the power level thing is terrible. It makes for bland books as you simply can't always up the ante. The power levels are ridiculous and it's part of what DC silly in the 80s. Dr. Fate, Spectre, Superman, the Flash, Green Lantern were all so ridiculously powerful there was just no beating them and most stories were silly (how in the world did Flash ever get knocked out? His speed reflexes would make it pretty hard for a giant boomerang with a jet engine to come unnoticed and hit him for Christ's sake). The power levels have crept back up since then, but the reasoning behind the original depowering was sound. If your characters, including your good guys, are too powerful you often have to come up with boring and third rate means to combat them.
Don't even get me started on Xorn. A black hole in his brain...? Jeez.
Too much power.
The Sentry is supposed to have the power of thousand exploding suns? A million? Whatever, even one is really too much. I've read various scientific studies about just what we receive from the sun in terms of light energy. It's insane just the small portion that hits Earth is so powerful. That much force in one man could power the planet for probably 10,000 years and that's before exploding or going nova. Even if its just extreme hyperbole it's still ridiculous and by the way marvel says his powers are very likely limitless...
www.marvel.com/universe/Sentry_(Robert_Reynolds)
Thor? Before the Odin force he beat Galactus solo and has knocked a Celestial off their feet. With it, he's probably twice as powerful.
So before he was beating up the cosmic powers of the universe, and now he's twice as powerful...
Hulk? Well at one point he took a little while to get angry enough, so if you were the Abomination or Wendigo you could hit enough quick enough and Hulk would go down. Nowadays Hulk gets so angry he no longer needs to eat or sleep or breathe and his strength never seems to level off as shown in World War Hulk if he's annoyed enough, so he's always at limitless strength and will always win as he starts off so angry that you can't knock him out, and since his strength and stamina increases he'll never drop. I can't think of anything more boring than a character who will always get stronger than his opponent and is always mad and strong these days. It's the kind of thing that Mort Weisinger would've turned down back in the corniest days of Superman comics.
Red Hulk? By all accounts he seems stronger than Thor and Hulk who both seem to have nigh limitless power. So I guess he's limitless plus one. Will need more research, but just looking on line found where he punched the stuffing out of a Watcher.
Vulcan? Seems to have Phoenix level powers in the X-books. I don't read the X-Books anymore, but didn't they kill off Jean Grey partly because her character was simply too powerful?
Just a few off the top of my head, but the power level thing is terrible. It makes for bland books as you simply can't always up the ante. The power levels are ridiculous and it's part of what DC silly in the 80s. Dr. Fate, Spectre, Superman, the Flash, Green Lantern were all so ridiculously powerful there was just no beating them and most stories were silly (how in the world did Flash ever get knocked out? His speed reflexes would make it pretty hard for a giant boomerang with a jet engine to come unnoticed and hit him for Christ's sake). The power levels have crept back up since then, but the reasoning behind the original depowering was sound. If your characters, including your good guys, are too powerful you often have to come up with boring and third rate means to combat them.
Don't even get me started on Xorn. A black hole in his brain...? Jeez.