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Post by dlw66 on Feb 19, 2009 13:21:30 GMT -5
I left it open to two choices.
So, who ya got?
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Post by Dr. Hank Pym on Feb 19, 2009 23:16:07 GMT -5
I'm an Avengers fan by heart, so I of course picked Cap! However, I have begun to heavily warm up on the Inhumans -- I absolutely love Crystal, Medusa and Black Bolt! I have to go with Black Bolt as well.
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Post by Tana Nile on Feb 20, 2009 10:51:26 GMT -5
I went with Cap and Cyclops. I think they are both great leaders, but with such different personalities. I think Cap always showed that not only was he a good tactical leader, he understood how to reach people and motivate them. I think in some ways, Cyclops had a more difficult team to work with - particularly with the second wave of X-Men - but he still managed to get them to work together.
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Post by dlw66 on Feb 20, 2009 13:19:04 GMT -5
I chose Mr. Fantastic and Cyclops.
I chose Reed because he's the mainstay of the FF -- the glue, the direction. Although his rep. has certainly been tarnished of late, I just found a lot of security in his leadership as a kid. He was so darn smart, he had a beautiful wife, and although he is the weakest of the four physically he would fight to his dying breath (either physically or mentally).
Cyke is interesting because if the Prof.'s around, he's automatically second fiddle. Even in the field, the Professor would often contact the team telepathically. Once the new team was formed, however, Scott seemed to have some more responsibility and the conflicts in and around the team heightened. Claremont did a good job of further developing Cyke's character.
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Post by Doctor Doom on Feb 22, 2009 7:18:21 GMT -5
I went with Reed and Cap. Cap I think is self explanatory, but Reed is underestimated by many. In the old days, he wasn't just the 'nerd' he is today, he was tough, smart, cool and, dare I say it, badass. Reed Richards ALWAYS knows what to do, and how to do it.
All I'm saying is, there's a reason he was the leader of the first Marvel Age super heroes. Just as there's a reason the Thing was the first Marvel Age super hero.
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Post by Tana Nile on Feb 23, 2009 16:18:20 GMT -5
OK, this is not really all that appropriate to this thread, but I just caught the original "Day the Earth Stood Still" on tv (It always holds up, what a classic) and I was thinking Michael Rennie, who played Klaatu, sure would have made a great Reed Richards!
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Post by sharkar on Feb 23, 2009 19:06:14 GMT -5
OK, this is not really all that appropriate to this thread, but I just caught the original "Day the Earth Stood Still" on tv (It always holds up, what a classic) and I was thinking Michael Rennie, who played Klaatu, sure would have made a great Reed Richards! Yes, I can see the connection/resemblance. I also think Neal Adams looks very Commander Riker-ish in your avatar...though of course the Adams photo predates the character by at least 15 years! Back when I first saw Neal's work in the X-Men, I'd imagined him to look craggy and lean (lean =anagram of Neal  )...but in other words, similar to his depictions of Scott Summers, Larry Trask, or Karl Lykos. What a surprise when I saw this photo of him much later--he looked like a cuddly teddy bear! Not nefarious at all! Okay, back on topic: I voted for Reed and Cap, for the reasons others have already cited. |
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Post by Shiryu on Feb 23, 2009 19:21:51 GMT -5
I'm a bit confused by the poll's question. Is it about choosing my favorite character among these, in their silver/bronze age characterization, or about saying who I think were the best leaders?  Or a bit of both? ^^ |
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Post by sharkar on Feb 23, 2009 19:33:47 GMT -5
I'm a bit confused by the poll's question. Is it about choosing my favorite character among these, in their silver/bronze age characterization, or about saying who I think were the best leaders? Or a bit of both? ^^ Oh, maybe I got it confused. I thought it was who were the best leaders. In terms of characters, of those listed, I like Natasha best. Then Cap. But I don't consider 'Tasha a more effective leader than Reed. |
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Post by spiderwasp on Feb 23, 2009 22:59:56 GMT -5
I agree that the wording is a tad confusing but Reed and Cap are both my favorites on this list and the most effective leaders so it doesn't really matter for me.
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Post by dlw66 on Feb 24, 2009 8:50:12 GMT -5
Uh, it pretty much says: Which team's leader was your favorite character in the 60's-70's, and why?
All of the choices were leaders of the respective teams listed, and I am looking for your like/dislike of said characters in the context of these teams in the Silver and Bronze Ages.
Geez, this is like trying to explain to my high schoolers how to approach a true/false question -- at FACE VALUE, dude! Quit reading into it!! ;D
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Post by sharkar on Feb 24, 2009 10:29:05 GMT -5
Geez, this is like trying to explain to my high schoolers how to approach a true/false question -- at FACE VALUE, dude! Quit reading into it!! ;D Hmmm...the lad doth protest too much, methinks ;D...but thanks for reiterating. I guess when some people started mentioning leadership qualities, I got confused as to the intent. But since I like Reed and Cap as characters and leaders, I'm OK with my choices (sorry, 'Tasha!). Maybe I should have just submitted write-in votes for my absolute faves: Rick Jones (Teen Brigade) and the Enchantress as Valkyrie (Lady Liberators).  |
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Post by Shiryu on Feb 24, 2009 10:30:00 GMT -5
Geez, this is like trying to explain to my high schoolers how to approach a true/false question -- at FACE VALUE, dude! Quit reading into it!! ;D It's not been that long ago that I was a student, habits die hard ;D Definitely Cap, despite his early characterization to be a bit hit and miss for me. For the other one I'm not sure, but if we only consider their silver/bronze age personalities, probably Cyclops. Reed was way too much taken by his own things generally. |
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Post by Dr. Hank Pym on Feb 24, 2009 13:35:28 GMT -5
Rick Jones (Teen Brigade) Don't even joke like that...  |
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Post by dlw66 on Feb 25, 2009 11:37:33 GMT -5
Uh, it pretty much says: Which team's leader was your favorite character in the 60's-70's, and why? All of the choices were leaders of the respective teams listed, and I am looking for your like/dislike of said characters in the context of these teams in the Silver and Bronze Ages. Geez, this is like trying to explain to my high schoolers how to approach a true/false question -- at FACE VALUE, dude! Quit reading into it!! ;D It's been brought to my attention that my post yesterday doesn't necessarily read as "light-hearted". My deepest apologies to everyone who read the above and was put off by it -- I think most of you know that's not what I'm about around here. But, we all fall victim to electronic communication's limits, and I certainly, upon reading this more closely, did not do a good enough job of stating my clear intent -- for those who wish to comment on this poll to answer the original question at its face value. I hope if there are any further questions that you will feel free to PM me. Thanks, and again -- my apologies. Doug |
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Post by sharkar on Feb 25, 2009 11:48:34 GMT -5
dlw, Once again you have proven how classy you are.  |
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Post by Shiryu on Feb 25, 2009 13:00:10 GMT -5
It's been brought to my attention that my post yesterday doesn't necessarily read as "light-hearted". My deepest apologies to everyone who read the above and was put off by it -- I think most of you know that's not what I'm about around here. But, we all fall victim to electronic communication's limits, and I certainly, upon reading this more closely, did not do a good enough job of stating my clear intent -- for those who wish to comment on this poll to answer the original question at its face value. I hope if there are any further questions that you will feel free to PM me. Thanks, and again -- my apologies. Doug Aah, don't worry! I'm foreign and it did sound light hearted to me, the ;D pretty much explained the mood. And that is why emoticons are such a great addition to every board. It's a pity that proboards doesn't allow more than 16, in most forums there are hundreds available (some really cool ^^) |
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Post by Dr. Hank Pym on Feb 25, 2009 14:23:17 GMT -5
Don't worry Doug, I never saw that post as anything but light hearted, myself! I thought it was funny! And I expect that everyone else feels the same way. My hats off to you for apologizing, though, but I doubt you need to! |
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Post by nova36 on Feb 26, 2009 4:55:55 GMT -5
For me i'll divide it into era's for the 1960's it was Reed, Cap is by far the better leader but it took time for him to become the moral paragon/defacto leader of the Avengers. At the onset of the Marvel age we have Reed dealing with 3 very diff ppl, albiet a family. The introduction of Dr. Doom, the Inhumans, mole man, and last but not least the coming of Galactus. Through this all Reed shows great leadership, yes he is somewhat distant, annying ect. Yet in the decade of the 1960's Reed is the clear leader and the FF are the core team of the marvel U. With the onset of the 70's it all changed, the Avengers go through thier trials and Cap himself becomes more then the flag as it were. The secret empire storyline, nomad ect. He starts on his journey as the moral compass to the marvel U. Ultron, Mantis, the kree/skrull war and korvac all these lead to the Avengers becoming THE team of super heroes and thier leader can be no other than Captain America "Steve Rogers". well that's my take on it anyway |
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Post by ultron69 on May 8, 2009 12:59:23 GMT -5
Cap and Cyclops. Cap because, for one thing, I admire a non-powered guy who can lead eatrh's mightiest heroes. I love the way he led Cap's cooky quartet, and the way he earned Hawkeye's respoect after Hawkeye harassed him every chance he got for the first couple of years.
Cyclops, because I I like the way he was able to lead such a disparate team, especially having to deal with Wolverine. I liked him in the 60's too, though he was more of a teacher's pet type back then.
Plus, the X-Men and Avengers were always my two favorite teamsm, which is probably why I chose these guys over Reed, though I admire Reed's brilliance.
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Post by garada on May 18, 2009 16:47:12 GMT -5
I had to go with Reed and Cap. They both just seem so confident and in charge. Reed keeps his cool even in the most bizarre / abstract situations and dimensions. Cap is just such a bad@$$, and has one of the best costumes of all time. Doc Strange, as much as I love him... well, you can hardly call The Defenders a team. Cyclops, too much angst. |
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Post by humanbelly on May 19, 2009 7:55:04 GMT -5
I surely think the intent early on was to make Cap that all-situations go-to guy. Stan would too often hit us in the head with this by having the Wasp, or Wanda, or someone else gazing at Cap with awestruck admiration during a crisis, and "thinking" to themselves, "He takes command as though he were born to lead!" Truly. More than once, I'd stake a fiver on it.
Hey, should Nick Fury maybe have some consideration here? He's never been a fave of mine, but he actually does embody a broader, more thorough ideal of what a leader really is and does.
HB
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Post by ultron69 on May 19, 2009 9:26:01 GMT -5
Interesting thought on Nick Fury. I've never followed him other than his appearances in The Avengers, though. I think you're right about Cap. They definitely did try to cram his great leadership down our throats.
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)...but in other words, similar to his depictions of Scott Summers, Larry Trask, or Karl Lykos. What a surprise when I saw this photo of him much later--he looked like a cuddly teddy bear! Not nefarious at all!
