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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 22, 2007 21:42:58 GMT -5
OK, feel free to be as sappy as you wanna be.
Here is the question.
What is your favorite moment in all comic history. Wether it be a fight, or a discovery or whatever. This is a chance for the old-timers to share why things used to be sooo great and a chance for the whipper-snappers to show why they love the current stuff.
Here's mine. The original issue of Spider-man with the death of Aunt May. When she asks Peter what it's like to swing from the web. Here's Peter, protecting her from the truth all these years,carrying this burden. and she knew all along. To see him realize that. Then to hear her say that she is proud of who he is, and that Ben would've been as well. That is probably one of my all time favorite moments.
Your turn
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 22, 2007 21:43:33 GMT -5
p.s. please try not to rain on anybody else's favorite.
thanks
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Post by redstatecap on Mar 22, 2007 23:05:14 GMT -5
To me, comics are all about the characters and their relationships with other characters. Sure, flashy superhero battles are a necessary part of it, but the interpersonal aspect is what really makes us care about what happens to these characters.
You would probably never guess it, but I'm a sucker for unrequited love.
I suppose my favorite "sappy moment," or rather series of moments, was Spitfire's almost pathetically earnest crush on Cap, expressed on occasion throughout the original Invaders series.
You could identify with both characters. Cap was too stolid, too dedicated, and probably too shy to return her affection, and Spitfire was too naive, too inexperienced, and too much a product of her time to force the issue herself.
Great story by Roy Thomas.
RSC
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Post by Tone-Loc on Mar 22, 2007 23:47:08 GMT -5
No question for me... Cap breaking down in the ruins of Avengers Mansion over the torn sole-picture he has of his mother.
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Post by Doctor Bong on Mar 22, 2007 23:47:58 GMT -5
For me, when both the Avengers & the Justice League take the heroic decision of return their respective worlds to the way they were before Krona's attack on Galactus, despite of the fact that they'd become aware that some of them were going to die & all of them were gonna go thru very difficult moments & loses...
To me, that moment exemplifies what these heroes are, or what they should be....
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 23, 2007 8:52:50 GMT -5
Ua, there were so many good moments in that series. and you are right. That was a true goose-pimple moment.
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Mar 23, 2007 10:24:10 GMT -5
Cap's breakdown and the picture of his mother -- that is a seen that has stuck with me as well.
I don't know what to say though, for my favorite sappy moment. I guess I'm not really too much for sap. I got pretty ecstatic though, at the end of the first Secret Wars number 1, when all the bad guys ambushed the heroes in the last panel. Nothing since has made me so eager to read the next issue of a series. Mega teamups weren't so common then -- and it was so cool to Wolverine and Captain America in the same lineup -- against all the greatest villains, some of whom I had never seen before then.
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Post by Tone-Loc on Mar 23, 2007 10:36:05 GMT -5
If I might interject another... it is from the only FF comic I actually own (which as I say that, I realize what a shame that is)... The scene where Reed sacrifices himself to stop Annihilus from leaving the Negative Zone. You don't see anything, it is all played through Sue & the Gang and Fury listening to Reed communicate back what is transpiring. Very powerful.  |
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Post by dlw66 on Mar 23, 2007 10:50:55 GMT -5
What a great Byrne cover... and floating heads, no less!
I have always been moved by the scene at the conclusion of the Death of Gwen Stacy/Death of the Green Goblin story (ASM #'s 121-122) when Peter returns to his apartment to find Mary Jane waiting. It was great then, but superior foreshadowing to what would come some 12 years later!
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Post by Doctor Doom on Mar 23, 2007 11:25:42 GMT -5
d**n, SO hard a question.
I can't pinpoint one, so let me list a good few of the most powerful moments to me, followed by my CURRENT favourite. (It changes almost daily)
Avengers Ones-
JLA/Avengers: When the JLA roar "AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!" while charging into battle.Amazing stuff, though I also loved the bit Ua2 mentioned where they sacrifice their own well-being for the world.
"Ultron, we would have words with thee." Nuff said.
Kang Dynasty. Kang obliterates Washington DC in a "Nuff said" issue with no words. The shot of Thor falling on his knees and sobbing at the massacre says far more than any words.
One Bendis Avengers one (!!!) sticks in my mind, as much due to the art as anything else. After mauling decades of Avengers continuity, bnedis wrote a surprisingly competent Finale. The last two pages say it all; the shot of the Avengers staring over the huge crowd with their "Avengers Forever!" etc signs really gave me a huge warm feeling in my heart, tinged with sadness. The only redeeming part of the entire Disassembled mess.
Fantastic Four:
-Doom has kicked the asses of the F4, tortured them, trapped their son in Hell and has almost ultimate power. Reed goes missing so he storms into Doc Strange's house bellowing "Where are you, Richards?" Is greeted by a two page spread of Reed and the others. "Where I belong, Victor. With my family."
...d**n, there are many more which I can't think of now.
Spider-Man:
-Need I really say? ASM 122-123. Says it all. Also LOVED the entire issue where Aunt May found out in the JMS run. That is among the greatest Spider-Man comics of the last few years.
Civil War:
-Civil War #2. Unmasking. 'Nuff said.
-Civil War #3. Cap vs Iron Man. The one page, almost tableau-esque, of Iron Man socking Cap in the face. Breathtaking.
-Civil War '7- I know I'll get flack for this- Cap's surrender. He realises they were losing the argument, that theeir side has been reckless and out of control, that he's become the very thing which caused this. The look on his face as he drops the shield says it all.
-Death of Cap. Most heroes when they die sacrifice themselves to save the world. What Cap does is far better, to my mind. Anyone can die to save Earth. What Cap dfoes is much more personal, more down toEarth, and in many ways a harder decision to make. Cap dies to save one man, a man who is guarding him in his imprisonment. And that's okayt- because he's Captain America, so hell gladly give his life to save even a single ordinary man. Moving stuff.
But my current favourite moment in comics history?
<Drum roll please>
Casualties of War special. As Iron Man and Cap fight, it's itnerspersed with Tony Stark and Steve Rogers training, many years before. They go their seperate ways. In the past, we see Cap tell Tony that if Iron Man ever needs him... he's got his back. "Thanks" replies Iron Man.
We then see Iron Man and Cap walking away from one another before Avengers Mansion, two enormous towering spirits of their past selves back to back overhead. We hear Iron Man finish from so many years ago.
"....And I know he'd say the same."
To me, that final page is the definitive message, the heartbreaking summary of civil war, these two brothers in arms torn asunder.
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Post by dlw66 on Mar 23, 2007 11:40:33 GMT -5
As for stories, I thought "The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man" was very good. Byrne also did a story in the FF (#280's, maybe?) about a boy who was burned while trying to mimic his hero, Johnny Storm.
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Post by Van Plexico on Mar 23, 2007 13:25:40 GMT -5
1. Thanos and his alien army vs the assembled Avengers, Spidey, the Thing, Captain Marvel, and Adam Warlock, in TWO IN ONE ANNUAL #2.
2. The Avengers smash into Ultron's Long Island hideout in AVENGERS #162.
3. The final battle between Baron Karza's forces and the Enigma Force and the Acroyear Homeworld, in MICRONAUTS #11.
4. Bullseye's escape from prison, in the DAREDEVIL issue where Elektra dies. Frank Miller at his best.
And here's a sappy but good one: AVENGERS #159. Jarvis sits alone in the mansion, thinking Graviton has killed all the Avengers, and he raises a toast to their memories. "They also serve, who only stand and..."
(Then he goes and singlehandedly rescues the girl! Go Jarvis!) ;D
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Post by Shiryu on Mar 24, 2007 18:08:18 GMT -5
The heroes deciding to fight at the end of Avengers/JLA #3, with Cap saying something like "Do you hear us, Krona ? We are coming for you ! The Avengers and the JLA, together all the way to the bitter end!"  Close second is Spidey holding Gwen in her arms after her death, desperately trying to wake her up. The aforementioned "Kid who collected Spider-Man" is a story that, under normal circumstances, I would have really liked. Unfortunately, when I read it, I already knew for years what it was all about, and that definitely spoiled it for me  |
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Post by dlw66 on Mar 24, 2007 18:13:51 GMT -5
Registering on the wow-o-meter would be the sacrificial/martyr moments of Kara Zor-el and Barry Allen in Crisis #'s 7-8.
A big "Uh oh!" moment for me was in the first Legion of Super-Heroes treasury which reprinted a Swan-drawn story where Mon-el, Duo Damsel, Shadow Lass, Insect Queen, and Superboy fight Mordru. The kids are undercover in Smallville, but Mordru has followed them through time. Duo Damsel has been manipulated mentally to serve as Mordru's "eyes". When she lets the cat out of the bag (so to speak), you just know bad things are gonna happen (and they do!)!!
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Post by Doctor Doom on Mar 25, 2007 5:23:10 GMT -5
Dammit, how could I forget!? THE DEATH OF BARRY ALLEN, PEOPLE! The single most important moment in DC History!  |
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 25, 2007 16:30:20 GMT -5
having just re-read the Avengers/JLA I almost feel like smiting myself for forgetting the ending to issue 3. It's one thing to go into battle knowing that you MIGHT die. But to go into battle. knowing that if you win, you ARE ALREADY DEAD. True blue hero stuff.
Being a hero means knowing that you will lose everything, you still make a stand.
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Post by iastagehand on Mar 25, 2007 18:36:01 GMT -5
I am with Doom on this one that there are so many and they change frequently. Off the top of my head: Dark Knight- When Bats powers up the suit to take out the boy scout once and for all Kingdom Come- When Supes and WW are set to tell Bats that they're preggers and he already knows. I am a detective remember Watchmen- That whole series rocked my world Daredevil- Being outed in the press and later on killing Foggy(but not really) The Death of Captain Marvel 'nuff said (wiping away tears) I will get back to this one later |
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Post by iastagehand on Mar 25, 2007 18:37:55 GMT -5
I almost forgot I think nastalgia is spelt Nostalgia surprised nobody noticed  |
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Post by Doctor Bong on Mar 25, 2007 18:40:16 GMT -5
But... that's the moment we discussed earlier, nutcase65; they have all just gone through seeing the images of all they have to go through if they restore their realities: all their sorrows & their loses through the years, even in some cases their own deaths, and STILL, in the end, they decide to pull together & fight till the very end, as heartbreaking as it may be, in certain cases...
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Post by The Night Phantom on Mar 25, 2007 21:01:15 GMT -5
Byrne also did a story in the FF (#280's, maybe?) about a boy who was burned while trying to mimic his hero, Johnny Storm. #285. |
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Post by redstatecap on Mar 25, 2007 21:33:16 GMT -5
I almost forgot I think nastalgia is spelt Nostalgia surprised nobody noticed I noticed, but I decided not to nitpick. RSC |
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 25, 2007 22:05:37 GMT -5
It's OK RSC, you can always pass up the opportunity to nitpick because you can always be sure someone else will.
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Post by Shiryu on Mar 26, 2007 4:20:03 GMT -5
I've just corrected the title |
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Mar 26, 2007 15:10:07 GMT -5
Nastalgia is nostalgia for all things NASTY
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Post by Black Knight on Mar 26, 2007 15:44:03 GMT -5
I have got to say one of my most sappy moments, was when Steve Rogers is given back the Captain America uniform after the (Cap no More arc). Just the whole splash page, and realizing that no matter what costume he wears, Steve Rogers was always Captain America.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 26, 2007 16:36:00 GMT -5
Nastalgia is nostalgia for all things NASTY Well, I was eating my wife's homemade potato soup at the time I posted this,.... and Shi, thanks for editing the topic title, we wouldn't want anybody to be distracted by anything so trivial as the contents of the thread |
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Post by Doctor Bong on Mar 26, 2007 18:01:17 GMT -5
So, at the risk of you ending up sleeping with the hounds... just how nasty is your wife's homemade potato soup...? And, by the way, how do you colorful natives of South Cakalaki say it...? "po-tay-to" or "po-ta-to"...  |
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 26, 2007 18:59:31 GMT -5
no you idjut, it ta-ter. c'mon man use yer hade (that would be use your head to those who can't translate red-neckese)
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Post by Doctor Bong on Mar 26, 2007 19:41:08 GMT -5
Mmm... perhaps that's just what the MU is ready for... Captain Redneck...!!!
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Mar 27, 2007 8:33:32 GMT -5
The Cakalaki Kid -- "I'm gonna serve you up some taters, Thanos -- and yer gonna like it!"
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