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Post by hunterrose on Jul 30, 2008 20:49:44 GMT -5
what is your favorite story/issue from the 90's. your favorite avengers moment. i grew up in the 80's....i liked the 60's,70's (silver and bronze),and most of the new books (2000's) were good times. but i feel most of the 90's books were bad....very bad. peter david's hulk was one of the few exceptions. but there has to be some good 90's stuff. so...... what is your favorite 90's avengers story. or something in the 90's that you fell was great. my favs are the gimic covers   |
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Post by scottharris on Jul 30, 2008 22:40:42 GMT -5
Well, Kurt's Avengers technically started in the 90's, as did his Avengers Forever. But I don't think that's what you meant. I actually enjoyed the Gatherers storyline; even with all the X-Men stuff added onto it, it still felt like the only real Avengers story from #300-up.
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Post by Doctor Bong on Jul 31, 2008 1:43:01 GMT -5
Well, Kurt's Avengers technically started in the 90's, as did his Avengers Forever. But I don't think that's what you meant. I actually enjoyed the Gatherers storyline; even with all the X-Men stuff added onto it, it still felt like the only real Avengers story from #300-up. I liked it as well, but we're definitely a minority when it comes to that around here... I think it was a period with lots of character development and during which the Avengers were a very cohesive unit, feeling more like a family, unlike what they usually come across: an association of coleagues. Come to think of it, perhaps one of the reasons so many Avengers' fans dislike the period is because, with the exception of the Vision, no avenger which we consider "essential" was part of the group... I mean, Cap returned after a while but for along time during the existence of this roster he wasn't around either... and no (original) Thor, no Iron Man, no Hawkeye, no Scarlet Witch, no Wasp, no Hank Pym (for the most part although, like Cap, he returned at some point)... |
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Jul 31, 2008 12:11:49 GMT -5
Around issue 350 or so, there are a lot of problems. I read those for the first time one after another not too long ago. One thing I noticed, was that Thor was different every time he appeared, with no explanation. Other characters would come and go, tied in from other books with no explanation in the Avengers issue about who they were -- I remember one issue with Iron Man's girlfriend Madame Masque. In it, she was a major character, but I had no idea who she was.
But this is supposed to be about what I liked. I really liked the Gatherers, and want to see them come back. And even though the team composition wasn't quite classic (too much Crystal!), they were a close knit team -- and Dane Whitman was awesome to finally have as a long term member.
The Power of Shazam series from the 90s is probably my favorite that I've found so far. Beautiful artwork, classic stories, interesting characters. Love it.
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Post by starfoxxx on Aug 2, 2008 19:53:23 GMT -5
I collected comics rabidly until @ 1991-92. i graduated high school in 92, and this along with comics becoming more and more gimmicky (multiple covers, crossover-kill, etc.) and the quality getting worse and worse, I gave up. I didn't start buying comics again until the glorious return of George Perez along with Busiek's great return to what made the Avengers stories great @ 1998. But that title was all I would buy (through subscription) until Milligan's X-force caught my interest @2002. So the Busiek/Perez Avengers stuff is the best 90's Avengers by far, IMO.
The early 90's comics that were the best, IMO, were Jim Lee's art on Uncanny X-men (the writing-not so great), Giffen's Justice League International/Europe, the Doom Patrol (great covers/stories/art, really cutting edge at the time), and Sandman (not as great as I remember, but as a teenager, I ate that kind of writing up) and a quirky title from DC's Piranha Press called BEAUTIFUL STORIES FOR UGLY CHILDREN, that i recommend for those with a taste for dark humor.
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Post by Dr. Hank Pym on Aug 3, 2008 6:17:32 GMT -5
starfoxxx:
Wow! I thought I was the only one who remembered Beautiful Stories for Ugly Children! I used to love reading that mag when I was in high school! Even the covers were awfully dark! I used to love it, but it stopped showing up at my old comic book shop, so I had to stop reading.
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Post by starfoxxx on Aug 5, 2008 18:28:18 GMT -5
I have often wondered why Marvel reacted to the "hot" creators starting up their own companies by bringing in no-name writers and artists, rather than asking reputable creators to handle the chores. Was everyone so intimidated by Mcfarlane, Lee, etc. that they didn't want to compete? Again, the mid-90's is a period when I was buying NO comics
(I did buy a bunch of the Marvel, DC, and Star Wars action figures that arrived in the 90's, tho, Only the classic characters I had always dreamed of , not the lame new characters in the X-men lines).
The stories and art from these new guys was really laughable, did they even think it was good? Were they rushed? Did Stan Lee not even care anymore? They should do a "where are they now" for the artists/writers/editors such as Bruce Zick , M.C. Wyman, Darick Robertson, (not to pick on these guys, they just came to mind)-- and ask them what was going on at Marvel back then, how it was for a relative newcomer to write/draw a flagship title, etc.......
The best thing Marvel did in the 1990's was bring back George Perez and the Avengers, IMHO
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