Post by The Night Phantom on Jan 15, 2007 19:06:43 GMT -5
I thought it would be nice to discuss the candidates in each Jarvis category. Since there are a lot of categories, some of which have a lot of candidates, it might make sense to discuss each category in its own thread.
11. AVENGERS CREATORS HALL OF FAME [Vote for two.] + John Buscema + Steve Englehart + Jack Kirby + Jim Shooter + Roger Stern
Even though there are a relatively small number of choices, and even though we get to each pick two, I suspect this will be the most contentious category on the ballot. d**n, they are all worthy choices. If we are going to stick to the idea of a minimum threshold, consensus is all the more important. I suggest trying to narrow things down by voting for one person as a visual artist and another person as a writer: basically, Buscema vs. Kirby and Englehart vs. Shooter vs. Stern.
Post by Bored Yesterday on Jan 17, 2007 17:10:28 GMT -5
My choices: Englehart and Buscema are discussed in the other thread. While I agree all the other creators were great, these two made the greatest contribution to the Avengers within the pages of the Avengers.
Ditto on Buscema and Englehart, for the reasons I stated in the other thread Bored refers to. Recap: Buscema really established the look of the Avengers book and made it a contender, art-wise, with the FF and Spider-Man books; and Englehart's writing helped transition the book into the '70s.
I am still amazed that Buscema was not in this HoF already, but better late than never...
You're right...thanks for pointing that out to me, JohhnyZ.
I guess, since I grew up on the Buscema Avengers, I took exception to Perez seemingly usupring JB's rightful place (in this HoF). Not that I don't like Perez's work, but, well--John put the Avengers art on the map.
Post by Bored Yesterday on Jan 24, 2007 16:24:13 GMT -5
I think Perez made it in part for his Volume III contributions, and I don't know ... Buscema probably still did more issues, but something about that volume III revival was very important for the title.