Hourman
Probationary Avenger
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Post by Hourman on Aug 2, 2007 10:49:26 GMT -5
I apolgize if this topic has been brought up before, but how many people have read/own any of the Avengers' novels from the 1960s or late 1970s? I have several of them: The Avengers vs. the Earth Wrecker written by Otto Binder Marvel Masterworks -containing four short stories, "This Evil Undying" by Jim Shooter (an Ultron story that was used as a basis for Avengers #201-202), an X-Men story, a Daredevil story and a Hulk story. The Man Who Stole Tomorrow by David Micheline (a Kang story) and I also own a Captian America novel where he fights the Red Skull, "Holocaust for Hire"... I also have some of those great Power Book and Record stories from way back when
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Post by redstatecap on Aug 2, 2007 11:22:57 GMT -5
That's pretty cool. I've seen one or two Captain America novels, but never an Avengers novel.
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Post by dlw66 on Aug 2, 2007 16:25:52 GMT -5
I apolgize if this topic has been brought up before, but how many people have read/own any of the Avengers' novels from the 1960s or late 1970s? I have several of them: The Avengers vs. the Earth Wrecker written by Otto Binder Marvel Masterworks -containing four short stories, "This Evil Undying" by Jim Shooter (an Ultron story that was used as a basis for Avengers #201-202), an X-Men story, a Daredevil story and a Hulk story. The Man Who Stole Tomorrow by David Micheline (a Kang story) and I also own a Captian America novel where he fights the Red Skull, "Holocaust for Hire"... I also have some of those great Power Book and Record stories from way back when I have all but the first one, as well as an FF one, Spidey, and Hulk, too. Check out the "Groovy '70's" and "Old Ads in Marvel Comics" threads!
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Post by Doctor Doom on Aug 2, 2007 17:04:41 GMT -5
Can't say I have. I have two FF novels, two spidey novels and an Ultimates novel (All very recent) as well as a hodge-podge collection of Nineties X-novels, but that's really all.
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Post by Doctor Bong on Aug 2, 2007 22:01:03 GMT -5
I always wanted to get those old Avengers novels... could you comment on them & give us the general plot...? I only had an IM novel & an Avengers/ Thunderbolts novel, both of which appeared, I think, in the late '90's...
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Hourman
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Post by Hourman on Aug 3, 2007 10:38:20 GMT -5
When I get home, I'll type in some of my favorite sequences from each book
Here are some of the basic plots:
Avengers vs. The Earthwrecker: a VERY 1960s plot. Karzz the Conqueror (a cheap rip-off of Kang) has come from the future to unleash four dooms to destroy 20th century Earth, before they can become a revolutionary force in the near future that will topple Karzz's empire. The Avengers' line-up is Iron Man, Captain America, Goliath, Wasp and Hawkeye.
"This Evil Undying" from Marvel Masterworks: As I said before, this story was used as the basis for Avengers #201-202. Ultron is reborn, this time by Tony Stark. Apparently, sometime when Ultron last walked the earth, he hypnotized Stark into being his failsafe, should Ultron be destroyed. Stark realized what he did and has to now make counterplans should he still be under Ultron's thrall.
Jim Shooter wrote this story, and he must have been a fan of "Letters to Penthouse", because his descriptions of Wanda are more than slightly erotic, the Wasp sleeps nude, and there is even a couple of sex scenes with Wanda and the Vision (no nothing graphic, just things that he probably couldn't write in a 1979 era comic book, but felt he could in a novel).
The story is a good one, though... Ultron is defeated a little too easily though. The Avengers line-up is: Iron Man, Hawkeye, Cap, Thor (who shows up later) Vision, Scarlet Witch and the Wasp.
"The Man Who Stole Tomorrow": My favorite of the Avengers novels. This is a full length story and I've always felt it would make a great movie/comic book. The Avengers line-up: Thor, Iron Man, Cap, Quicksliver, Vision, Scarlet Witch and the Beast.
It begins with an Eskimo who posesses incredible powers and has come to retrieve a god. The Avengers assume he means Thor and in the subesquent battle the Eskimo unleashes "Brother Bear" which resembles a polar bear as much as "Peter Benchley's man-eating shark resembled a fish" (to quote author David Micheline). Brother Bear takes out the Avengers in short order, and the Eskimo sends him to kill "the winged-foot stealer of gods."
Yeah, you guessed it... our Eskimo is none other than the guy who appears in Avengers #4 worshipping the ice bound Cap.
Micheline provides great background into a character who only appears for a couple of panels back then. He re-freezes Cap and returns to his village to find that the times they are a-changing. A small oil town has popped up where his people used to be. He goes on a rampage...
Meanwhile, a battered Avengers team gathers themselves up and discovers Cap missing. They go over a tape of the battle (they were in the middle of providing a transcript of their previous battle for the archives when all hell broke loose) and start putting the pieces together. They split into teams, with the Vision and Iron Man going to warn Namor, with the rest hightailing it for Alaska.
They defeat the Eskimo and learn he got his powers from "the blue totem"... The Avengers suddenly realize who "the blue totem" is... Kang. They also have a problem... the "ice" Cap is in doesn't melt. So they have to travel to the future to get Kang to free Cap... and figure out what Kang is really up to.
The story is really well done, with a lot of comedy -provided mainly by the Beast. Although it isn't nearly as erotic as Shooter's writing, there is another intimate scene between the Vision and Scarlet Witch, where apparently the Vision is in the mood, and the Wanda says, "Darling... we only have a few minutes before that debriefing.... maybe we shouldn't..."
And the Vision replies, "Wanda... don't you know there are certian advantages to being a machine?"
Kang is also depicted as being particularly insane... and an ego maniac (complete with signs saying "The Conqueror is In/Out"). At one point he tells the Beast, "I like you...you're blue."
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Post by dlw66 on Aug 4, 2007 9:52:31 GMT -5
"The Man Who Stole Tomorrow": My favorite of the Avengers novels. This is a full length story and I've always felt it would make a great movie/comic book. The Avengers line-up: Thor, Iron Man, Cap, Quicksliver, Vision, Scarlet Witch and the Beast. It begins with an Eskimo who posesses incredible powers and has come to retrieve a god. The Avengers assume he means Thor and in the subesquent battle the Eskimo unleashes "Brother Bear" which resembles a polar bear as much as "Peter Benchley's man-eating shark resembled a fish" (to quote author David Micheline). Brother Bear takes out the Avengers in short order, and the Eskimo sends him to kill "the winged-foot stealer of gods." Yeah, you guessed it... our Eskimo is none other than the guy who appears in Avengers #4 worshipping the ice bound Cap. Micheline provides great background into a character who only appears for a couple of panels back then. He re-freezes Cap and returns to his village to find that the times they are a-changing. A small oil town has popped up where his people used to be. He goes on a rampage... Meanwhile, a battered Avengers team gathers themselves up and discovers Cap missing. They go over a tape of the battle (they were in the middle of providing a transcript of their previous battle for the archives when all hell broke loose) and start putting the pieces together. They split into teams, with the Vision and Iron Man going to warn Namor, with the rest hightailing it for Alaska. They defeat the Eskimo and learn he got his powers from "the blue totem"... The Avengers suddenly realize who "the blue totem" is... Kang. They also have a problem... the "ice" Cap is in doesn't melt. So they have to travel to the future to get Kang to free Cap... and figure out what Kang is really up to. The story is really well done, with a lot of comedy -provided mainly by the Beast. Although it isn't nearly as erotic as Shooter's writing, there is another intimate scene between the Vision and Scarlet Witch, where apparently the Vision is in the mood, and the Wanda says, "Darling... we only have a few minutes before that debriefing.... maybe we shouldn't..." And the Vision replies, "Wanda... don't you know there are certian advantages to being a machine?" Kang is also depicted as being particularly insane... and an ego maniac (complete with signs saying "The Conqueror is In/Out"). At one point he tells the Beast, "I like you...you're blue." Exactly as I remembered it! Thanks for posting that for others! BTW, you can sometimes find these books on Ebay for CHEAP!
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