The Definitive Vision

[dlw66]

There have been a couple of threads about the Vision in the past months. Now, take a survey!

[Engage]

This is a really difficult choice to make. The early Vision is certainly the model for the character. It had the brooding, the feelings of being an outcast and the strangeness. It also had that awesome eye glow that the Vision used to get when he was angry. However, the Volume III version had most of those things as well as the Victor Shade identity.

The romantic Vision is a continuation of the early Vision, in my opinion. I don't think I'd classify him as a different "version" because he still felt like he was an outsider and was still spooky and brooding.

The more human Vision is freaky. I didn't need to see his teeth.

Tell me again why did he stopped wearing shoes when Byrne had him repainted?

I'm going with Volume III because it showed the Vision studying humanity and trying to learn to fit in while at the same time brooding over the things he knows that he has lost. It showed him taking action to try and integrate himself with humanity while still hiding himself behind a veil. He wasn't paralyzed by his brooding, but he still felt removed and isolated.

[Shiryu]

I voted V3 too, because he has elements from a few previous incarnations. Still a robot, but also wishing to understand humanity more.
The original one is a very close second, while Byrne's one is at the very end of my list.
I still don't quite get who the present Young Avengers Vision is though

[Nutcase65]

I have to stick with the original. Good character and still had the whole wanna be a real boy thing going on.

[dlw66]

I voted for the original concept of the Vision. This is not to say that I dislike our dead-heat choice above -- I feel that Busiek/Perez added another layer to the Vision's character with their developments in the great Vol. III run.

[Bored Yesterday]

Finally voted. Vision was perfect in issue 58. I liked watching his gradual growth into humanity, and his struggle to become human. It was before Data on Star Trek, and Vision is much cooler. I didn't like the totally robotic version. A robot CAN CRY, darnnit.

[sharkar]

I voted for 1--for me, that's the definitive Vision.

As others here have said, choice 2 is very similar to choice 1. I guess I would consider 2 to be the "Steve Englehart" version of Vision; Steve developed Roy's creation by bringing in Mantis and introducing other complications (as any good writer would). Thanks to Englehart, Vizh's speech started to become increasingly "human" and conversational, and less formal... I'd say from around #109 or so. It took me a while to get used to the new speech patterns (Wanda and others changed too, as is to be expected when there is a change in writers). Steve's work was great but overall, I preferred Roy's depiction of the Vision, the quintessential outsider who wanted to belong.

I remember Steve's first issue as Avengers writer (#105; Roy is now the editor), which contains a vintage Vizh line. Unlike the other male Avengers he is unaffected by Lorelei's siren call and he is clearly upset (as is Wanda), and he says something to her like "My difficulty should be obvious to anyone." Chilling, perfect dialogue. So cold, but the Vision's distress came through loud and clear.

[Draganta]

i voted the romantic vision, if ony because it was during this phase that my favorite classic avengers storyline took place- the Kree-Skrull war. i think it was arround this time that Vision began to be almost the heart of the team. for me at least.

[Alchemist-X]

hmmm didn't see this before

I voted romantic too, different reason, its just that Vision and the Scarlet Witch was an era unto itself, and one of Vizzy's most recognizable career points.

Honnorable mention to YA Vison, only cuz I like the new Teen Version Costume beter than any other update attempts (I see nobody voted for white vVsion)

[Engage]

I sort of like the white Vision because of how strongly it contrasts everything before it. I love the issue where the Vision's emotions are restored when he pretends to be the dead son of a dying man.

I just can't get the fact he doesn't wear shoes. Its just weird.

[ultron69]

I like the piner. The most interesting, to me.

[visionloveswanda]

I had to go with the piner as well (note the screen name), because I too felt it was a continuation of the original. Hard for me to see them as two versions. Both were awesome. The worst was, of course, Bryne, who I think should simply be disregarded from the cannon by serious Vision fans, since he has admitted to having a less than honorable intention when writing those stories.

They were the work of Immortus fooling us all. In fact, I kind of feel that way about Mr. Bryne in general. ; )

This was a great idea for a survey!

[humanbelly]

And I imagine I could go ahead and chime in here as well, helpin' to keep this older thread viable--

I voted for the original Vision, but as others more or less pointed out (and with absolutely no disrespect to much-admired dlw), the choices of Vision-versions here may be somewhat artificial. Early Vision, Piner Vision & Busiek Vision all really do seem to be the same fellow, given his intervening life (and death) experiences. Human Personality Vision was arguably the same, too, but it was just hard to swallow that his whole established personality was a result of that ENORMOUS, yet undetected, control crystal in his head-- and while humanizing him in an instant, it also robbed his personal growth up to that point of much of its meaning. So I think if we're looking for truly different Visions, the choices may have to look more like--

1) Original Vision (including Busiek's)
2) ISAAC-style Vision (ensconced in the mansion's computer system)
3) Regular Joe Vision (discussed above)
4) Byrne Robot Vision (possibly one of the most disparaged moves in Avengers history?)
5) Evil Gatherers Vision (remember him? Also proved the existence of Vision's- er- willy-wanker, as it were. . . *ahem*)
6) Young Avengers Different Guy Vision (I can't remember where I read it awhile back, but someone at Marvel was quoted wondering why people were still fussing about Vizh's death, since they brought the character back in YA, with new brain patterns and everything. --I have a really tough time getting past that level of shallowness from company professionals. My bad, I'm sure. . .)

Given these choices-- ha!-- is there even any choice other than the first one?

HB

[bobc]

I voted for the original spooky version, especially when rendered by Palmer/JohnB. I liked that you never really knew what he was thinking. Like most of the rest of you, I also liked watching him move towards being a "real boy." Loved the whole Mantis thing too, but then again I love bad girls. I just can't help it.

[ultron69]

Jan 1, 2011 16:02:33 GMT -5 humanbelly said:

(I can't remember where I read it awhile back, but someone at Marvel was quoted wondering why people were still fussing about Vizh's death, since they brought the character back in YA, with new brain patterns and everything. --I have a really tough time getting past that level of shallowness from company professionals. My bad, I'm sure. . .)

That sounds like something Bendis would say.

[humanbelly]

Feb 9, 2011 15:47:08 GMT -5 ultron69 said:

Jan 1, 2011 16:02:33 GMT -5 humanbelly said:

(I can't remember where I read it awhile back, but someone at Marvel was quoted wondering why people were still fussing about Vizh's death, since they brought the character back in YA, with new brain patterns and everything. --I have a really tough time getting past that level of shallowness from company professionals. My bad, I'm sure. . .)

That sounds like something Bendis would say.

Ultron, ol' pal! Haven't heard from you in a dog's age! Very glad to see you pop back up-- I've kinda been the lone remaining voice of that small cadet class we came in here with---
--- although Badgermaniac does pop up now & again.

Time is breakin' up the old gang, alas.

Or maybe it's wedding bells. Did you get married??

HB

[ultron69]

Yes, I got married, but about six and a half years ago. LOL I'm like that. I'll be active for a while, go into hibernation, get thawed out, and come back on. I missed talking about Silver and Bronze Age Marvel comics, so here I am. :-)