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Post by dlw66 on May 18, 2007 13:19:03 GMT -5
Alrighty, then.
First we had a relationship between a mutant and a synthezoid, then a meta-human and a Skrull. Now, from what I'm gathering there is a budding relationship (or at least a tryst) between a genius biochemist and a were-woman. Any of these situations could make love... shall we say... odd, challenging, or whatever other adjective you'd care to use.
What are some other "unusual" relationships you can think of?
PS: Donkey and the dragon.
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Post by von Bek on May 18, 2007 14:30:29 GMT -5
Angel and the Ape? OK, I just know the name of this DC comic (haven´t read it) and I so hope it isn´t about a inter species relationship...
And DLW, the meta human/Skrull relationship you´re talking about is the Johnny Storm/Lygja thing?
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Post by dlw66 on May 18, 2007 14:34:16 GMT -5
Yeah -- I should have said "flaming meta-human" or something.
Ben and Alicia -- there would be some "issues"...
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Post by Bored Yesterday on May 18, 2007 15:06:13 GMT -5
It is about an inter-species relationship. But she's not an angel -- she's a human. He really is an ape. Don't know if they're really a romantic couple, but they kind of seem like it.
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Post by von Bek on May 18, 2007 15:12:34 GMT -5
Poor Alicia and poor Angel...
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Post by dlw66 on May 18, 2007 21:12:14 GMT -5
Say, lest anyone think this thread is a bit "naughty", it doesn't have to be.
Looking for unusual relationships.
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Post by redstatecap on May 20, 2007 0:23:33 GMT -5
Hank Pym and Tigra, while it may be stupid, is not problematic in any meaningful way. She's a hot furry human female.
The real issues come either in inter-species arrangements or in situations where the parties literally can't connect. The latter is particularly effective for Marvel's angst-method of character development. I mean, there would be few things I would be angstier about than not being able to love whom I loved.
Colossus and Kitty Pryde is an obvious one.
Rom and Starshine loved each other but were (for most of the series) not capable of love because they were grafted into Spaceknight armors.
Rogue and basically anyone.
RSC
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Post by uberwolf on May 20, 2007 7:35:33 GMT -5
Hank Pym and Tigra, while it may be stupid, is not problematic in any meaningful way. She's a hot furry human female. The real issues come either in inter-species arrangements or in situations where the parties literally can't connect. The latter is particularly effective for Marvel's angst-method of character development. I mean, there would be few things I would be angstier about than not being able to love whom I loved. Colossus and Kitty Pryde is an obvious one. Rom and Starshine loved each other but were (for most of the series) not capable of love because they were grafted into Spaceknight armors. Rogue and basically anyone. RSC I still say they should do a Rogue/ Wonder Man realationship. There's some history there, in her first appearance when she fought the Avengers she tried to absorb his powers and couldn't. Which could be a great storyline considering he's on a team with Ms. Marvel now. Um, as long as a certain cretin of a writer was off the book. |
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Post by redstatecap on May 20, 2007 9:47:03 GMT -5
Said cretin seems to be on a path to make a bad soap opera out of the book.
In Ms. Marvel's own title and perhaps in Mighty they're teasing a WM/MM pairing.
You may or may not have heard of it, but in What If? #114, Captain America and Rogue married and had kids, although the Carol Danvers personality was in control.
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Post by redstatecap on May 20, 2007 9:48:54 GMT -5
I suppose you could add to this list the current "lion-like" Beast and pretty much anyone, since he's mutated further from human form into something that smacks of, well, bestiality.
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Post by dlw66 on May 20, 2007 20:37:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I wondered about Hank McCoy even way-back-when when he was in love with Trish Dilby (IIRC her name).
Rogue is interesting with any suitor.
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Post by redstatecap on May 20, 2007 21:53:17 GMT -5
I believe the issue of "age-appropriateness" should count as well. Obviously this can be a very touchy subject, so you won't see anything truly wrong in comics. There have been a few that I can think of that could be at least borderline on the grounds of age.
Spitfire was IIRC 15 when she met and fell in love with Captain America, who was about 24.
Rogue and Magneto was a much wider true age gap but probably an equal "apparent" age gap since Magneto had been de-aged.
Some examples don't really work -- i.e. no one really cares that Sersi is 4000 years old and Dane Whitman is 30. I guess the knowledge that that kind of situation is totally disconnected from reality makes it a non-issue.
But, for the few chararacters tied to WWII, age difference can be made an issue. For example, Chris Priest at least touched on Cap's years vis-a-vis Wanda in their short-lived "relationship."
Situations of mind control can also be touchy in that the relationship becomes effectively rape. Carol Danvers and Marcus Immortus immediately comes to mind. The Presence/Starlight is another example where the relationship is somewhat long-term but remains founded on mental domination. There are probably other examples.
Situations of adultery I think should count also. However, modern society seems to by and large take it as a given, which is unfortunate. Crystal and one of her extra-marital liasons is an example. I believe that Jean Gray also betrayed Cyclops as well.
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Post by von Bek on May 21, 2007 9:14:44 GMT -5
Colossus and Kitty Pryde is an obvious one. RSC Why?  In Joss Whedon´s Astonishing X-Men they... 'connect' a lot.  |
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Post by The Night Phantom on May 21, 2007 20:28:50 GMT -5
a meta-human and a Skrull And DLW, the meta human/Skrull relationship you´re talking about is the Johnny Storm/Lygja thing? Yeah -- I should have said "flaming meta-human" or something. I was confused at the reference too. The Wiccan–Hulking relationship (in Young Avengers) could also be characterized as a metahuman–Skrull relationship (I’ll skip right over the word “flaming” while also pointing out that the Skrull in question is a Skrull-Kree hybrid). Speaking of Skrulls, Runaways has also given us a romance and betrothal between a Skrull and another alien (dubbed a Majesdanian). Another item couple in that series is composed of a human and a human-android hybrid.
Ben and Alicia -- there would be some "issues"... For a while she dated the Silver Surfer—who I think often surfs around naked, and, well…maybe his cosmic powers can compensate.
Now, from what I'm gathering there is a budding relationship (or at least a tryst) between a genius biochemist and a were-woman. I’ve always found Marvel’s “were-woman” appellation for Tigra to be utterly dopey. Were-, as in werewolf, means “man” or “human being”…so, a were-woman would be a person who turns into a woman. Tigra would be more aptly described as a werecat or a weretiger or something of that nature. In any case, any such relationship between her and Pym is re-budding, for they had an affair in the early days of the WCA ongoing.
Looking for unusual relationships. Try the classifieds! 
The real issues come either in inter-species arrangements or in situations where the parties literally can't connect. The latter is particularly effective for Marvel's angst-method of character development. I mean, there would be few things I would be angstier about than not being able to love whom I loved. Colossus and Kitty Pryde is an obvious one. Why? In Joss Whedon´s Astonishing X-Men they... 'connect' a lot. I’m with von Bek. Piotr and Kitty’s relationship would, on the physical level, be problematic if either one of them had no control over their superhuman abilities…but usually, they do. (I’m sure they can muster enough control…)
Once again, I point out Larry Niven’s eye-opening (and fairly grotesque) classic essay “Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex”.
Biological differences came between Namor and Marrina. You know, the “I’m going to rip you to shreds, then go mate with someone my own species” kind of differences. |
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Post by dlw66 on May 22, 2007 8:51:11 GMT -5
Try the classifieds! Hardy har har!!! That was a good one! ;D |
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Post by fiero84 on May 23, 2007 14:41:05 GMT -5
I guess I'll say, (I used to collect Machine Man in 80's) Machine Man and Jocasta. That was a bit strange to me to see two robots acting like prom dates.  Guess MARVEL liked to dabble with lOvE....>sigh<....as well as violence.  |
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Post by Nutcase65 on May 24, 2007 15:19:48 GMT -5
The love affair in comics that I found the most difficult was me and Wonder Woman. I just never could figure out how to get that relationship to work out.  |
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Post by Doctor Doom on May 24, 2007 16:20:29 GMT -5
Alas, Doom knows all about difficult love.
Doom had a tormented relationship of Doom's own before ripping off her skin and utilising it as enchanted armour...
...Everyone deals with rejection in their own way...
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Post by Nutcase65 on May 24, 2007 16:24:56 GMT -5
but at least that way you get closure,... also smelly
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Post by Doctor Doom on May 24, 2007 16:27:33 GMT -5
Plus no matter what happens, Doom shall always hold her close to his glorious self.
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Post by dlw66 on May 24, 2007 16:41:13 GMT -5
I didn't know you were a professional athlete, Doom -- Mr. "I speak of myself in the third person"...
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Post by Doctor Doom on May 24, 2007 16:42:19 GMT -5
What can Doom say, he has all qualities. Athletic, handsome, genius... modest...
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Post by Nutcase65 on May 24, 2007 16:46:20 GMT -5
don't forget generous,... make all checks payable to,...
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Post by Doctor Doom on May 24, 2007 16:52:16 GMT -5
Certainly. Of course you will come to Castle Doom to collect?
...I fear your stay might be a little... longer than you anticipate though...
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!
Perhaps more than one of us need meds...
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Post by fiero84 on May 24, 2007 17:25:48 GMT -5
Alas, Doom knows all about difficult love. Doom had a tormented relationship of Doom's own before ripping off her skin and utilising it as enchanted armour... ...Everyone deals with rejection in their own way... Besides his initial chasing of Sue Storm, (least in the film version) did the luv Doctor actually find romance after her..? ...I'm sure it's a nice castle, but I think I'll stick to Paypal. |
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Post by spiderwasp on Jul 17, 2007 13:56:47 GMT -5
Howard the Duck and Beverly Switzler.
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Post by The Night Phantom on Jul 17, 2007 20:53:06 GMT -5
Alas, Doom knows all about difficult love. Doom had a tormented relationship of Doom's own before ripping off her skin and utilising it as enchanted armour... ...Everyone deals with rejection in their own way... Besides his initial chasing of Sue Storm, (least in the film version) did the luv Doctor actually find romance after her..? I don’t believe the comics have ever portrayed Doom as being interested in Sue romantically or sexually. Doom (the Assembler) was referring to his namesake’s love for a fellow Gypsy named Valeria, whom Doom (the comics character) knew in childhood, years before he ever met or heard of Sue Storm. So far as I know, Valeria was the only woman he has ever had such interest in. (Through a strange turn of events, Sue and Reed’s second child ended up being named Valeria, for Doom’s old love.) |
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In Joss Whedon´s Astonishing X-Men they... 'connect' a lot. 
