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Post by dlw66 on Sept 8, 2006 13:02:06 GMT -5
With all this Mighty Avengers talk, doesn't it just make you miss this all the more??
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Post by Black Knight on Sept 8, 2006 13:19:34 GMT -5
With all this Mighty Avengers talk, doesn't it just make you miss this all the more?? Yes very much, I miss the Avengers a lot, probably why I have such high hopes for Omega Flight, because the comic is the closest we are getting to the Avengers since disassembled.
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Post by Ultron on Sept 8, 2006 13:55:08 GMT -5
Really? A ragtag of c listers written by a guy who isn't an old-schooler (Bendis penciller actually)?
Wouldn't Thunderbolts be a lot closer?
Anywhoo if "Omega" flight is the closest thing to Avengers we're getting, we're all royally screwed. Big time.
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Post by Ultron on Sept 8, 2006 13:59:02 GMT -5
Reminisce away:
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Post by dlw66 on Sept 9, 2006 11:01:13 GMT -5
Avengers #130 -- the first copy of the mag I bought myself off the newstand. Roughly co-incides with FF #160 and Spidey #146 as the first of those books I can remember buying. I'm sure I'm off a bit on the months, but those are my recollections. Man, a trip to the local drugstore used to be an adventure of great anticipation, and then once I was old enough to ride my bike further from home and discovered that there was more than one drugstore in the world and that they carried different comics -- WOW!!!
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Post by dlw66 on Sept 10, 2006 13:55:30 GMT -5
Ultron, you inspired me to read #130 again, which I did via the DVD-ROM last night. I followed it up with #131, notable as the first appearance of Immortus since #10. That issue also featured the "intro." of the Legion of the Unliving, which would carry through #132 and GS #3. All of this is part of my personal fave Avengers arc, The Celestial Madonna. If you can get your hands on the tpb, I highly recommend it. It should also be included in the next Avengers Essentials volume. And, if you haven't yet purchased the DVD-ROM then shame on you and go do it (although the GS issues are not included in that package )! If you want characterization, drama, old villains, and just a great, classic feel -- read issues from this era. They blow away anything currently being done under an Avengers masthead!!
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Post by steed on Sept 11, 2006 12:13:35 GMT -5
Man, a trip to the local drugstore used to be an adventure of great anticipation, and then once I was old enough to ride my bike further from home and discovered that there was more than one drugstore in the world and that they carried different comics -- WOW!!! Sounds like you and I grew up in the same neighborhood. Tuesday afternoon was always a race to Curtis' Drugstore to get to the new funnybooks (that's what Dad called them) before anyone else.
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Post by dlw66 on Sept 11, 2006 12:23:21 GMT -5
My biggest dilemma came the two summers when I spent a week at my uncle's in the Chicago suburbs. They had 7-11 stores, and the two years they did the Marvel Slurpee cups really cut into my comics budget! I was so sick of the slurpees, I finally just asked if they'd sell me the cups!
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Post by Black Knight on Sept 11, 2006 12:42:16 GMT -5
Really? A ragtag of c listers written by a guy who isn't an old-schooler (Bendis penciller actually)? Wouldn't Thunderbolts be a lot closer? Anywhoo if "Omega" flight is the closest thing to Avengers we're getting, we're all royally screwed. Big time. I am not trying to fight with you, but have you read Oeming at all, like, Thor:disassembled, or the Beta Ray Bill limited, he is amazing. Also he has been writing Red Sonja. Another great book. His books, move, and have action and charater development, I really don't call him part of the Bendis group. God forbide people actual like c-listers. Get down from you high horse on that.
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Post by Black Knight on Sept 11, 2006 13:02:25 GMT -5
My biggest dilemma came the two summers when I spent a week at my uncle's in the Chicago suburbs. They had 7-11 stores, and the two years they did the Marvel Slurpee cups really cut into my comics budget! I was so sick of the slurpees, I finally just asked if they'd sell me the cups! Those are very cool, do you remember the Taco Bell, DC glass, they were great as well.
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Post by steed on Sept 11, 2006 13:10:59 GMT -5
Man, we didn"t have a 7-11 around here when I was a kid so I missed out on these. I'm envious.
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Post by dlw66 on Sept 11, 2006 13:56:54 GMT -5
Yeah, that's not my collection, but I do have a lot. I have some of the small glass slurpee cups. I only have one of the large Pepsi DC glasses -- Wonder Woman.
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Post by Black Knight on Sept 11, 2006 14:56:36 GMT -5
Yeah, that's not my collection, but I do have a lot. I have some of the small glass slurpee cups. I only have one of the large Pepsi DC glasses -- Wonder Woman. I had them all, but my parents systematically broke them. Really sucked. I also had the marvel slurpee cups, but once again my mother struck and throw them aways one day without me knowing.
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Sept 13, 2006 12:43:48 GMT -5
The thrill of a cover like that! I almost bought a Superman comic the other day at the grocery store, because the cover actually had word balloons on it! I was like, wow! Turns out, our boy Busiek's name was on the cover. Good comics aren't dead and the days of buying them at the grocery store aren't either. Of course, I didn't actually buy it, because it cost more than a loaf of good bread. When they bring back color ink on newsprint, I'm back in.
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Post by ultron69 on Sept 22, 2009 8:32:13 GMT -5
The thrill of a cover like that! I almost bought a Superman comic the other day at the grocery store, because the cover actually had word balloons on it! I was like, wow! Turns out, our boy Busiek's name was on the cover. Good comics aren't dead and the days of buying them at the grocery store aren't either. Of course, I didn't actually buy it, because it cost more than a loaf of good bread. When they bring back color ink on newsprint, I'm back in. Oh how I miss newsprrint! I don't think it's coming back, though. :-(
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Post by defdave on Sept 24, 2009 10:25:23 GMT -5
<<Oh how I miss newsprrint! I don't think it's coming back, though. >>
There's nothing like opening up an old comic from the 60s or 70s, holding it up to your nose, closing your eyes and taking a big whiff.
I guess that sounds weird. But am I the only one?
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Post by humanbelly on Sept 25, 2009 7:23:09 GMT -5
<<Oh how I miss newsprrint! I don't think it's coming back, though. >> There's nothing like opening up an old comic from the 60s or 70s, holding it up to your nose, closing your eyes and taking a big whiff. I guess that sounds weird. But am I the only one? Oh heavens no, I'm sure you're not. Many of us on this board, I imagine, are becoming our parents, in a way. Who had eventually become their own parents, and so on and on. My Dad (I think I've mentioned before) was adamantly convinced that the tinny, flat, one-microphone recording techniques of the 30's and 40's were infinitely superior to capturing the "true sound" of a band or artist than anything developed in the 60's, 70's or beyond. He equated that "old radio" sound with the fond memories he had of the generally very fine material, and no amount of direct evidence could convince him otherwise. Clearly, we're just built that way by nature. Memory is intertwined w/ sensory input. In regards to old comic books, my own experience in fact goes one step farther. In the mid (to late?) 70's I had put together the Avengers run from issue 16 to about #132, and spent a LOT of time holed up in my room, sitting on my bed & poring over them, while snacking on Nestle's chocolate chips w/ a big glass of milk. Whenever I pull one of those old issues out (particularly 25-50, and 71-116 or so)? The taste of chocolate chips comes unbidden to my palate. I'll also occasionally come across- throughout my collection- a tiny crumb of chocolate here, a cookie crumb there-- pressed and preserved between the pages. Not infrequently, a tiny spot of spaghetti sauce (lifetime favorite food). And it never fails to induce a smile and a memory of happy contentment. I know the more hardcore collectors out there are shouting, "Oh my GOD!! Do you know how you've devalued those books??" But. . . it doesn't matter a whit, really. My Hulk #181, my New X-Men #94, my Amazing Spiderman #121-- they all were much-read and much-loved LONG before they became priceless, collectible artifacts, as it were. To me, it's the difference between simply owning something, as opposed to that something truly belonging to you. HB
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Post by ultron69 on Sept 25, 2009 8:01:53 GMT -5
<<Oh how I miss newsprrint! I don't think it's coming back, though. >> There's nothing like opening up an old comic from the 60s or 70s, holding it up to your nose, closing your eyes and taking a big whiff. I guess that sounds weird. But am I the only one? No, you are definitely not the only one! I love the smell, and I miss all of those old ads as well.
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Post by sharkar on Sept 25, 2009 13:02:40 GMT -5
In regards to old comic books, my own experience in fact goes one step farther. In the mid (to late?) 70's I had put together the Avengers run from issue 16 to about #132, and spent a LOT of time holed up in my room, sitting on my bed & poring over them, while snacking on Nestle's chocolate chips w/ a big glass of milk. Whenever I pull one of those old issues out (particularly 25-50, and 71-116 or so)? The taste of chocolate chips comes unbidden to my palate. I'll also occasionally come across- throughout my collection- a tiny crumb of chocolate here, a cookie crumb there-- pressed and preserved between the pages. Not infrequently, a tiny spot of spaghetti sauce (lifetime favorite food). And it never fails to induce a smile and a memory of happy contentment. HB HB, my experience is much the same: back in the 1960s/70s, I had amassed an Avengers collection comprising #14-105. Alas, these (and indeed all of my comics) were discarded by my mother at some point. A couple of years ago I got back into comics and assiduously set about recreating--and expanding upon--my original comic book collection. I bought a ton of back issues from the 1960s-early 2000s. To this day, whenever I look at any of those Avengers issues from #14-105 (or other issues I'd owned back when they were first published)-- or even read reprints of these stories in the Essentials or wherever--I am transported to the '60s/'70s and I'm flooded with vivid memories of the circumstances around each comic --where I bought the issue, the season, the weather, which friend or relative I was with, the comics I received as birthday presents, discussions of the story with friends, trading comics with friends, copying (or trying to) the Kirby/Buscema/Swan/Adams art and creating my own comics on looseleaf paper, etc. Undoubtedly for lot of us, old comics are our "madeleine" (y'know, Proust and Remembrance of Things Past and all that jazz ). Ah yes, I remember it well.
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Post by humanbelly on Sept 26, 2009 14:59:06 GMT -5
In regards to old comic books, my own experience in fact goes one step farther. In the mid (to late?) 70's I had put together the Avengers run from issue 16 to about #132, and spent a LOT of time holed up in my room, sitting on my bed & poring over them, while snacking on Nestle's chocolate chips w/ a big glass of milk. Whenever I pull one of those old issues out (particularly 25-50, and 71-116 or so)? The taste of chocolate chips comes unbidden to my palate. I'll also occasionally come across- throughout my collection- a tiny crumb of chocolate here, a cookie crumb there-- pressed and preserved between the pages. Not infrequently, a tiny spot of spaghetti sauce (lifetime favorite food). And it never fails to induce a smile and a memory of happy contentment. HB HB, my experience is much the same: back in the 1960s/70s, I had amassed an Avengers collection comprising #14-105. Alas, these (and indeed all of my comics) were discarded by my mother at some point. A couple of years ago I got back into comics and assiduously set about recreating--and expanding upon--my original comic book collection. I bought a ton of back issues from the 1960s-early 2000s. To this day, whenever I look at any of those Avengers issues from #14-105 (or other issues I'd owned back when they were first published)-- or even read reprints of these stories in the Essentials or wherever--I am transported to the '60s/'70s and I'm flooded with vivid memories of the circumstances around each comic --where I bought the issue, the season, the weather, which friend or relative I was with, the comics I received as birthday presents, discussions of the story with friends, trading comics with friends, copying (or trying to) the Kirby/Buscema/Swan/Adams art and creating my own comics on looseleaf paper, etc. Undoubtedly for lot of us, old comics are our "madeleine" (y'know, Proust and Remembrance of Things Past and all that jazz ). Ah yes, I remember it well. Hoo-boy, Shar-- you've toppled me again with another deeply-academic literary reference! I'm thinking, "Have I ever read anything by Proust??" (The answer-- oh, no, probably not. Although I'm sure he's here on our shelves. I have no doubt my wife has perused him!) But the gist of what your refering to comes across, regardless. . . I'm thinking you must have been a bit out of the norm, being an adolescent girl comic book fan. They were certainly few and far between in my day-- although they were always liberally represented in the letters pages. I wonder what your Mom made of it? HB
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Post by ultron69 on Sept 28, 2009 7:30:19 GMT -5
Hoo-boy, Shar-- you've toppled me again with another deeply-academic literary reference! I'm thinking, "Have I ever read anything by Proust??" (The answer-- oh, no, probably not. Although I'm sure he's here on our shelves. I have no doubt my wife has perused him!) But the gist of what your refering to comes across, regardless. . . HB I actually have Swan's Way on my bookshelf, but I haven't gotten around to reading it, nor do I know when I will. I'm currently reading Don Quixote. Hilarious!!
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Post by sharkar on Sept 29, 2009 10:25:08 GMT -5
I'm thinking you must have been a bit out of the norm, being an adolescent girl comic book fan. They were certainly few and far between in my day-- although they were always liberally represented in the letters pages. I wonder what your Mom made of it? HB, I think my mother's dislike of me reading comics was not because of my gender, but more likely because she was influenced by Wertham's witch hunt in the 1950s (when she would have been at an impressionable age). So she felt comics were "dangerous", would rot my mind, make me into a juvenile delinquent, etc. I stacked my comics in a box back then, all organized by title, then issue number, etc. At times when I refused to eat my vegetables, she'd grab a handful of my comics from the box and throw them out. I made sure I placed my Archies on top (deviating from my normal stacking order), so no real harm was done when she "punished" me. ;D
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Post by ultron69 on Sept 29, 2009 14:24:20 GMT -5
Wertham is evil incarnate! I was shocked when I saw the history of comics on the History Channel, and the damage that one person can do.
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Post by sharkar on Oct 2, 2009 13:02:24 GMT -5
Wertham is evil incarnate! I was shocked when I saw the history of comics on the History Channel, and the damage that one person can do. Ultron: I've seen that--the Comic Book Superheroes Unmasked documentary, right? It's fascinating! Some months ago I also caught a documentary (on Ovation) called Comic Book Confidential (produced in the late 1980s)...not surprisingly, CBC also contained footage about those hearings.
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Post by ultron69 on Oct 5, 2009 8:30:28 GMT -5
Yes, Sharkar, it was the Comic Book Superheroes Unmasked docuentary. You have a much better memory than I do!
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Post by sharkar on Oct 7, 2009 11:22:21 GMT -5
Yes, Sharkar, it was the Comic Book Superheroes Unmasked docuentary. You have a much better memory than I do! Y'know, I've seen that documentary about two or three times in the past couple of years...so, yeah, I should remember its title! ;D I love that when Steranko is interviewed in the show, one of my all-time favorite Silver Age covers (and one of his best covers IMO) can be seen in the background.
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