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Post by dlw66 on Apr 6, 2006 13:31:11 GMT -5
What do you think? For me, I spend time now and then just leafing through my volumes of Batman Illustrated by Neal Adams. I also really enjoy his short run on Avengers, and his run on X-Men even moreso.
Big John Buscema's still my all-time fave, but even he can't match Adams' mastery of the comic art page.
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Post by wellsoul2 on Apr 7, 2006 4:21:03 GMT -5
What do you think? For me, I spend time now and then just leafing through my volumes of Batman Illustrated by Neal Adams. I also really enjoy his short run on Avengers, and his run on X-Men even moreso. Big John Buscema's still my all-time fave, but even he can't match Adams' mastery of the comic art page. For silver age I really love Gene Colan's work on Daredevil. Very under-rated. Actually Jim Steranko is the best but I gave Colan the vote because I loved those old Daredevil books. Barry Smith on Conan is great but didn't care for the work on Avengers quite as much. John Buscema drew every character perfectly. The testament to his talent was that he never distracted you from the story..everything looked perfectly right without the quirks of other artists. |
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Post by Shiryu on Apr 7, 2006 7:51:15 GMT -5
I went for Romita Sr, I always enjoy his work on Spidey. that's how Spider-Man has to look like for me.
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Post by Yellowjacket on Apr 7, 2006 7:51:47 GMT -5
So I´m the first voter for John Buscema - an easy choice as there is in my opinion no one who matches Big John. In particular if you consider, that he did not even care much for superheroes or comics in general. Incredible what great art he delivered nevertheless.
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Post by von Bek on Apr 7, 2006 8:07:01 GMT -5
So I´m the first voter for John Buscema - an easy choice as there is in my opinion no one who matches Big John. In particular if you consider, that he did not even care much for superheroes or comics in general. Incredible what great art he delivered nevertheless. I know someone who met Big John a couple years ago and he said JB didn´t care much for superheros, but was a Conan fan, and enjoyed working with Roy Thomas on the character in the 70´s. |
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Post by dlw66 on Apr 7, 2006 9:11:41 GMT -5
As everyone knows by now, Big John is my main man. As a reference point, though, for my love of Neal Adam's work, find a copy of X-Men #58 -- the first few pages where Beast and Iceman fight a Sentinel are some of the most extraordinary page lay-outs I've ever seen. Another good reference is the Avengers issue where Ant-Man has to go into the Vision to save him. It's part of the Kree/Skrull War (issue #95 maybe??).
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Post by bobc on Apr 7, 2006 13:25:42 GMT -5
Don't even look at John Buscema, DL!! HE'S MINE!!!
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Post by Avenger4Ever on Apr 7, 2006 20:13:03 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of Neal Adams and I too have the Neal Adam's Batman collections which are awsome.
I am also a big fan of John Buscema. The man was so versatile. I enjoyed his work throughout all the different genres he did. His work was always consistently good no matter what book he was on.
Brian - A4E
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Post by dlw66 on Apr 7, 2006 21:01:18 GMT -5
Since we're having a Johnny B. love-in (which is much more tolerable than the Bendis love-in on another thread) -- do any of you either now or historically peruse the original art available on ebay? Several years ago, before John died, there was a fella out of New York who kind of acted as John's "agent" -- that is, I think he was the broker for all of John's art. There was an amazing volume of work always up for sale (which obviously dried up once John died). There were sketches, finished pieces, stuff drawn on napkins, others that were carved up from a whole sheet of Bristol paper to make a bunch of little drawings -- all amazing work!! Not only could the man draw better than just about anyone, but even his doodles were masterpieces! I bought several pieces over time, and treasure each of them greatly.
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Post by Avenger4Ever on Apr 9, 2006 0:21:39 GMT -5
I've always been interested in collecting original art but, never made the effort to do so. Now with the kids and moving my office into my home I'm a little tight on space to properly store/display it.
One of these days when I get around to expanding the family room, I'm going to make room to hang and display some nice framed art pieces.
Brian - A4E
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Post by imperiusrex on Apr 9, 2006 8:29:37 GMT -5
I've always enjoyed the underrated Gil Kane, especially because his work is so scattered at Marvel. That What If issue he did of the Avengers I can just look at and enjoy without much prompting...
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Post by Shiryu on Apr 10, 2006 9:15:11 GMT -5
I too would love to have some original art, but don't have any (except for a Don Rosa's Disney drawing). Keep your book well, Dlw66, with time it will become a real treasure (if it's not now already).
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Post by dlw66 on Apr 10, 2006 16:46:18 GMT -5
I have a pretty fair collection of original art, most of it by John Buscema. The only things I have framed are the first two on the list:
1. Avengers #34, p. 12 by Don Heck/Frank Giacoia (?) -- the first story appearance of the Living Laser.
2. FF #139, P. 11 by John Buscema/Joe Sinnott -- the Thing in full battle!
3. Avengers # 76, p. 3 by John Buscema/Tom Palmer -- Cap, Vision, Quicksilver, and Black Panther.
4. Conan #46, p. 15 by John Buscema/?
5. A warrior pencil rough by John Buscema with a Hulk pencil rough on the back.
6. A pencil and partially inked full-body sketch of Conan by John Buscema.
7. A pencil rough of a German U-boat captain, on vellum, by John Buscema.
8. A tightly pencilled rough of Conan for a European convention program, by John Buscema.
9. A pencil rough on 12x18 sketch paper of Avengers #262, p. 7 by John Buscema -- Namor and Herc get set to duke it out until Monica lights them both up! On the back are two sketches of Tarzan battling a lion, plus a couple of other light pencil studies of lion heads.
10. A pencil rough on 12x18 sketch paper of Marvel: Heroes and Villains (I think that was the title), p. 8 by John Buscema, recounting the Avengers first tangle with the Masters of Evil. Cap and the original Black Knight are featured.
11. A pencil/ink rough of page 3 of an unknown book, by John Buscema, where Thor and the Surfer fight. I believe this might be from the Galactus series that John pencilled shortly before he died.
12. Legionnaires #41, p. 5 by Jeff Moy and WC Carani. Mon-El!!
13. Legionnaires #61, p. 5 by Jeff Moy and WC Carani. Superboy and Bouncing Boy!!
14. An inked illustration of Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble as Batman and Robin, by Scott Shaw. Scott is the artist for the box art for Cocoa and Fruity Pebbles cereals.
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Post by Yellowjacket on Apr 11, 2006 3:18:07 GMT -5
Hey, now I´m a little bit jealously.  |
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Post by dlw66 on Apr 11, 2006 8:33:28 GMT -5
I've actually owned a few other pages that I sold to be more "competitive" on ebay, particularly for the Buscema FF page listed above. I had a Buscema Thor (no action) from the 70's -- it was the last page of a story where he fought the Absorbing Man and tricked him into absorbing the properties of cardboard! I also had a Swan Superman from the late 70's that had Clark Kent, Superman, and Luthor on the page. And, I had another Moy Legionnaires page (I really liked his run with the Legion for the most part, and he's a great guy if you ever get the opportunity to meet him).
It's a fun sidelight to comics, but can be expensive!!
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Post by Shiryu on Apr 11, 2006 8:44:27 GMT -5
Hmm, you better to never post your full home address, just in case  How did you get hold of that art ? did you buy it at exhibitions ? |
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Post by dlw66 on Apr 11, 2006 14:02:32 GMT -5
I have bought it online, through vendor catalogs, at the Chicago comicon, and on ebay. I think the aforementioned Swan piece was the first one I bought, for about $30 in the early 90's. I just was curious about it as a companion to book and action figure collecting. When I got the piece I was amazed at the "thought processes" you could see on the page: white-out of lines originally intended to go elsewhere, margin notes from penciller to inker, and from penciller to writer, some artists used pencil and other blue line, etc. Original comic pages are a real insight to the production process!!
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Post by Shiryu on Apr 12, 2006 10:11:32 GMT -5
That's very interesting. I wonder how the sketchbooks look like then.
I remember that in the "Marvel/DC crossovers" reprint #1 are depicted all the studies and changes bringing to the final cover, and it was really nice to read all the annotations etc.
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Post by dlw66 on Apr 12, 2006 11:38:47 GMT -5
The examples I have of John Buscema's sketch work are really neat -- you see how he began with large shapes and just kept swirling around until figures took form. Some of the sketches really take shape when you stand back from them -- the form becomes much more defined.
Shiryu -- Buscema used to love to spend time in Italy!! I think there's some information about that on Owen O'Leary's JB website --
home.ca.inter.net/owenandsusan/home.htm
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Post by Shiryu on Apr 13, 2006 8:53:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the link. I had a look and it does mention that he was in Italy for a conference. Doesn't specify where though.
Pity I wasn't much a Marvel reader at the time, would have been interesting to meet him at least once.
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Post by ultron69 on Sept 22, 2009 8:40:46 GMT -5
I had to add my vote for Neal Adams. Brilliant.
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