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Post by Doctor Bong Crosby on Mar 10, 2012 18:00:49 GMT -5
Does anybody here know if it was Stan Lee who came up with Ben Grimm´s battle cry or if it was the invention of a later scribe of the FF?
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Post by tomspasic on Mar 10, 2012 20:36:33 GMT -5
It could also have been Kirby, but Lee seems a reasonable bet.
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Post by humanbelly on Mar 11, 2012 15:32:14 GMT -5
Does anybody here know if it was Stan Lee who came up with Ben Grimm´s battle cry or if it was the invention of a later scribe of the FF? It certainly had to be Stan doing the writing when it was introduced, as it's used on the old Fantastic Four cartoon, and all of those episodes were based on Lee/Kirby issues. Paul Frees did a particularly great Ben Grimm--- his is the voice I still hear in my head when I read Ben's words. HB |
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Post by spiderwasp on Mar 12, 2012 21:00:54 GMT -5
I decided to thumb through my Essentials. I won't swear that this was the first appearance of the phrase but Ben did say it on page 15 of issue #22 against the Mole Man. Still well into the Stan Lee years.
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Post by woodside on Mar 12, 2012 22:18:16 GMT -5
I'm confident that it's a Stan Lee invention. It has a very Stan Lee-vibe to it (along with "Excelsior!" and my personal favorite, "'Nuff Said")
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Post by sharkar on Mar 13, 2012 11:55:30 GMT -5
I decided to thumb through my Essentials. I won't swear that this was the first appearance of the phrase but Ben did say it on page 15 of issue #22 against the Mole Man. Still well into the Stan Lee years. That's right, the first time Ben utters it is (surprisingly) not until a couple of years into the FF's run, in #22 (incidentally the issue in which Sue's new powers are discovered). A no-prize (aka exalt) for SW! ;D I'm confident that it's a Stan Lee invention. It has a very Stan Lee-vibe to it (along with "Excelsior!" and my personal favorite, "'Nuff Said") Yes, Stan loved to insert contemporary catch-phrases into Marvel--a big part of why Marvel seemed so more relevant than DC back then. "Excelsior" is (among other things) the state motto of New York and was (and is) displayed in some NYC public schools so it's no wonder Stan used it. "Face front" and "true believer" were sayings used in the military during the time Stan was in the army. Ben's "What a revoltin(g) development this is" came from the radio series Life of Riley. I seem to vaguely recall reading somewhere that "It's clobberin(g) time" was used in wrestling or other similar venues prior to being used in the FF. Obviously its usage in those arenas  increased after the Thing, FF and comics in general became better-known in pop culture. |
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increased after the Thing, FF and comics in general became better-known in pop culture.