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Post by goldenfist on Apr 23, 2011 11:49:38 GMT -5
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Post by humanbelly on Apr 23, 2011 13:38:45 GMT -5
Wow, that was unexpected! Y'know, maybe when BMB has to curtail his vision to meet the undeniably established story-telling standards of higher-than-A-list artists (indeed, "legendary", as the article states), everyone comes out a winner. Avengers Prime, with Alan Davis, was great comics. Still a little too decompressed for me, but it left me wanting more in a good way. And personally, I would put Davis very nearly up into that realm. With Adams, I can't even begin to imagine that BMB would dare to do this rushed, sloppy, inattentive stuff we've been seeing so much of-- SURELY he'll do his homework. . .
HB
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Post by goldenfist on Jun 14, 2011 15:14:04 GMT -5
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Post by freedomfighter on Jun 14, 2011 22:51:49 GMT -5
Not my favorite Neal Adams work. Does Iron Fist fly now? And the Thing looks like he's made of peanut brittle. No depth and shadow in the linework at all. And the figures just don't make sense- Wolverine jumping in air to slash at the Goblin Ghost and Spidey looks ripped- that back belongs on a juicehead who does 300 lb lat pulls with a side of steroids...Maybe you can't go home again.
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Post by humanbelly on Jun 15, 2011 7:56:02 GMT -5
Not my favorite Neal Adams work. Does Iron Fist fly now? And the Thing looks like he's made of peanut brittle. No depth and shadow in the linework at all. And the figures just don't make sense- Wolverine jumping in air to slash at the Goblin Ghost and Spidey looks ripped- that back belongs on a juicehead who does 300 lb lat pulls with a side of steroids...Maybe you can't go home again. Yep, I think he does sort of fly now--- kind of like the way Jack of Hearts used to. I think. I read the darned issue where Danny got upgraded when it came out, and I still can't remember the details clearly. [Hmm-- I'm failing in my responsibility of being the one "who reads it so you don't have to."] Neal Adams did just turn 70 a couple of days ago, I'll give him a touch of slack on that score--- although clearly his best work is well behind him. And it's neat to see him doing a cover, and all-- but yeah, there are noticeable problems. I do wonder if, in our mind's eye, we're all just completely used to seeing him inked by vintage Tom Palmer, and a different inker jars us? Well, no, maybe not- 'cause the composition doesn't work for me either. Also, tell me if you see this-- there's a distinctive "Jack Davis" feel to the pencils (Looooong time MAD magazine artist/writer; also drew Superfan about 40 years ago)-- particularly in the positions of feet and legs, and the way the faces are drawn. . . particularly Luke's. Once that crossed my mind, I couldn't not see Jack Davis. . . HB
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Post by freedomfighter on Jun 15, 2011 14:09:56 GMT -5
^^^^^ Yep I see the Jack Davis thing- it's a perspective issue and the way Neal elongates his figures, from sort of a low angle here looks like Davis' regular pencil and ink style. But Davis had that style forever- he did the old EC Comics in that style too and much of that is from the fifties and sixties... here's a link to a story he did for old EC, a Civil War tale (the REAL Civil War, not Marvel's terrible mini...) ethunter1.blogspot.com/2009/10/sunday-funnies-frontline-combat-14.html
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Post by humanbelly on Jun 17, 2011 12:32:18 GMT -5
FF, I'm tagging you w/ an exalt for tracking down & sharing something this cool. I had no idea whatsoever that Jack Davis had ever done this kind of work-- it's entrancing. You know what it reminds me of? And I mean, a LOT-? Marvel's "The 'NAM" series from the late 80's. Visually gripping, with the greater degree of stylization actually making it somehow more real (which is so incredibly counter-intuitive and tough to pull off). If those creators didn't acknowledge some influence from Mr. Davis, I daresay they weren't being altogether truthful. . .
HB
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