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Post by humanbelly on Aug 13, 2009 16:16:35 GMT -5
Oh, I will see it and I hope it isn´t no 151. I haven´t that issue... No, no--- not 151. Maybe you already have the issue, and it was handled so cleverly that it sneaked by you? Hoo-boy. . . this seems almost cruel. . . I must say that I find it charming and refreshing that you've been able to embrace the reprint and substitute stories so wholeheartedly. It's a very potent reminder that it behooves us to surrender to the fun and enjoyment that's at hand, and to maybe not get too invested in the angst behind the art. (Wow, that was WAY too over-worded! More simply, you're reminding us to take the books at face value, and to enjoy them as such. In fact, I'm gonna exalt you for it!) HB
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Post by sharkar on Aug 13, 2009 18:15:05 GMT -5
Hoo-boy. . . this seems almost cruel. . . Oh...you're right, HB...I'm sorry! Michidiers: as HB said, it's not #151. I think when you get to the issue I'm referring to, you'll know it right away because you'll see it's a cobbled-together issue (it consists of new and reprint material). At any rate even if you skip the issue or don't comment on it here, I'll let you know which issue it is...soon (oh no, I am being cruel again! ;D ). I must say that I find it charming and very refreshing that you've been able to embrace the reprint and substitute stories so wholeheartedly. It's a very potent reminder that it behooves us to surrender to the fun and enjoyment that's at hand, and to maybe not get too invested in the angst behind the art. Very well put (as usual).
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Post by michidiers on Aug 26, 2009 12:31:02 GMT -5
Hey, Humanbelly(up) and shakar: Thanks!
My last readings in the last weeks were:
US Avengers No. 144, 147 und 148
A over three issues extended storyline about the Avengers and the Squadron Supreme in a fight on an extra-dimension earth, the home earth of the SquadronWriter Steve Engelhard responsed the well important question of the year 1975:
Who is stonger?
a) the Avengers, or b) the Squadron Supreme
The right answer is:
a) the Avengers, Yeah!
The otherwise rather simple and common story bewitched by an famous artwork from Gerorge Perez. His scary drawn-performance of my favorite teammate „Vision“ is very impressing, especially the full face drawings of the android.
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Post by michidiers on Sept 14, 2009 11:27:45 GMT -5
US Avengers # 150High tension in and around the Avenger mansion, attentive observed by a crowd of TV medias, reporters and onlookers.. Several Avengers will resign and others will assign the Avengers. The teammates are delibertating a long time, until… …yes, until one of the TV-reporters used the time of waiting to talk about the history of the avengers into the TV-camera, especially about an ancient line-up a lot of years ago. Years ago was a great shift of teammates in the issue Avengers # 15. And from that point the reader (my person) reads a part-reprint of the old avengerstory from US Avengers #16, cleverly inbedded from the page 7 until the end of the “anniversary”-issue #150! My deference to that idea, House of Ideas! Ah, before I forget: I compared the contents and the panels of the reprint pages of US #150 and the german Rächer #15 (US Avengers #16). And what attract my attention? The German editors desk changes a funny tininess. They retouched the bald head of Jarvis! They gave them a magnificent head of hair. Look here and wonder about the new skrull Jarvis: ;D
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Post by sharkar on Sept 14, 2009 18:23:05 GMT -5
Michiders, you have reached the issue I alluded to earlier! You can see #150 consists of both new and reprint material. Apparently the use of the reprint material here was a last minute decision (since #149's teaser indicated a different story for #150) and this fact did not escape readers, who wrote in and complained. You'll see Marvel's explanation/apology in #151's letter column (basically, Marvel blames Steve Englehart not meeting his deadline; on his own website Englehart states that an "editorial shift" made it impossible for him to continue to work). www.steveenglehart.com/Comics/Avengers%20136-152.htmlUS Avengers # 150Ah, before I forget: I compared the contents and the panels of the reprint pages of US #150 and the german Rächer #15 (US Avengers #16). And what attract my attention? The German editors desk changes a funny tininess. They retouched the bald head of Jarvis! They gave them a magnificent head of hair. Look here and wonder about the new skrull Jarvis: ;D The "enhanced" Jarvis panels are priceless! ;D An exalt to you!
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Post by michidiers on Sept 22, 2009 13:09:21 GMT -5
@shakar: Yes, very funny the Jarvishead! Avengers # 151„The new line up!“ After o couple hours of deliberating in the avenger mansion, the new line up is fixed and presented to the waiting crowd of press, TV and onlookers. The crowd is delighted about the new team: Vision, Scarlett Witch, Beast, Iron Man, Cap, Wasp and YJ), until a shattering crash disturbes the szene: Out of a wooden crate comes out a forgotten, well known and presumed dead foe: Wonderman! And he blames Vision with shiddering voice: „He…did it. He is the one, who stole my mind!“ Vision stares at the man, his artifical mind was patterned on. Vison gets a chilling wave of realization, feels a chasm in himself, where he though he had a soul. To be continued… A high tension cliffhanger, wow!
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Post by michidiers on Oct 3, 2009 7:51:57 GMT -5
US – Avengers 152 (continuation of # 151) After coming out of the crate and blaming Vison, Wonderman collapses and gets into deep unsciounsness. Thank to Scarlett Witchs hexpowers the Avengers gets a hint to a vodoo-master in the swamps near New Orleans. It appears, Wonderman is a zombie, cotrolled by an vodoo-master. In the swamps of New Orleans they find the thingy-costume wearing foe „Black Tallon“, the vodoomaster. And Tallon is going to command an army of zombies, climbing out of old graves. But the weak undeads hasn´t got any chance against the strong team of Avengers. They beatet the unliving daylights out of the zombies and (thingy-)Tallon flees into the swamps. A banal story, but well drawn by John Buscema. Annotation: One panel hasn´t colours in the Background. The colourist forget it?
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Post by michidiers on Oct 25, 2009 7:31:42 GMT -5
US Avengers 153 The Living Laser is back! And after an assault on the Brand Cooperation, he enters into possession of the Serpent Crown. Then he distracted the attention of the Avengers by an attack of the Whizzer in the mansion. And meanwhile he takes the Wonderman under his mental control and forced him to destroy the Avengers. Poor Wonderman, Simon Williams. Just freed from the wicked control of the vodoomaster Black Tallon and his Zombies (# 153), he fell into the next influence of another „master“, the Living Laser ! A pretty shiftless story, but well drawn by John Buscema and a cover from Jack Kirby!
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Post by michidiers on Nov 4, 2009 10:52:34 GMT -5
US Avengers Vol I - Giant Size Avengers 6 . The giant size is the continuation of the Avengers # 153! -27- Pages, a grand opportinity to catch up the leeway, because in the month before lots of issues missed the deadline. The Avengers are in a fight against the Living Laser, owner of the Serpent Crown and his brother im arms, General Pollock and his army. The Avengers are in search of the Serpent Crown and tracked the radioactive aura of it in an hidden army outpost. There they find the Living Laser with the crown, General Pollock and:… the energy-being Nuklo (Son of the Whizzer an Brother of Wanda and Pietro) , a secret army weapon. Nuklo was placed by the gouvernment into General Pollocks care for national security reasons in a army outpost near Los Angeles. Pollock use the weapon Nuklo against the avengers. And it seem like the Avengers haven´t got any chance against the mighty power of Nuklo. Finally enters the Whizzer the szene. The fast runner collides against his son. The impact brings Nuklo to an implosion, the menace is out of danger! Cap ponders. He compares Whizzer with Abraham: „A man with the courage of Abraham, a father willing the greates sacrifice of all -- His son! Avengers, it´s time to go home!“
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Post by michidiers on Nov 14, 2009 10:05:38 GMT -5
AVENGERS 154After the victourious fight for the Serpent Crown (GZ avengers #6) the Avenger Vision drops the dangerous Crown in the center of the Pacific Ocean. And there he tumbles into the next adventure. The mighty Attuma, he claims the throne of Atlantis, captures Vision. Meanwhile intrudes Attumas comrade „Tykat, the treacherous“ into the Avenger HQ and overwhemles the Avengers YJ, Wanda, Wasp, Iron Man and Cap. Only the Beast escapes. The Avengers are defeated, and are equipped with an „atomo-slave-collar“. This collar will compel the Avengers to beat the biggest enemy of Attuma: Prince Namor, Prince of Atlantis! A lot of fights and lot of quiet and reflective moments between the teammates raises in me a real old school avengersfeeling.
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Post by humanbelly on Nov 15, 2009 6:13:52 GMT -5
The cover alone has lots of neat little discussion points, Mich.
Unless I'm mistaken (which is certainly the case about a third of the time), this looks very much like a Jack Kirby cover, done during his brief, disappointing final return to Marvel. Or else it's Rich Buckler doing an uncanny impersonation of a declining Jack Kirby. I'm having trouble placing the inker, though. My first guess is Mike Royer (Jack's solid support man for several years of Kamandi at DC); but I'm also thinking maybe Herb Trimpe. (something about the textures in Attuma's loincloth). Clearly, I'm counting on infallible Sharkar to help us out here!
It's also a hilarious (albeit unintentionally so) example of the ol' "Floating Head" cover convention. In this case, they're Floating TALKING Heads, to boot! About 6 months ago I believe there was a rather entertaining thread covering this kinda oddball phenomenon. In this case, having the heads interact with each other AND comment on the ongoing action hopelessly crosses the boundary from metaphorical image to inexplicable event.
And there's our pal the Vision being used as the corner icon, as we've mentioned recently. Although I wasn't as fond of this more dynamic version they'd come up with. Much preferred the stoic, arms-folded one that they used for years before that. But those things do need refreshing every once in awhile.
I only read this arc for the first time in recent months, and while it didn't particularly stick with me, I do have a seem to recall feeling that the Avengers were too easily beaten. I'll have to double-check. . .
HB
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Post by humanbelly on Nov 17, 2009 9:09:01 GMT -5
The cover alone has lots of neat little discussion points, Mich. Unless I'm mistaken (which is certainly the case about a third of the time), this looks very much like a Jack Kirby cover, done during his brief, disappointing final return to Marvel. Or else it's Rich Buckler doing an uncanny impersonation of a declining Jack Kirby. I'm having trouble placing the inker, though. My first guess is Mike Royer (Jack's solid support man for several years of Kamandi at DC); but I'm also thinking maybe Herb Trimpe. (something about the textures in Attuma's loincloth). Clearly, I'm counting on infallible Sharkar to help us out here! It's also a hilarious (albeit unintentionally so) example of the ol' "Floating Head" cover convention. In this case, they're Floating TALKING Heads, to boot! About 6 months ago I believe there was a rather entertaining thread covering this kinda oddball phenomenon. In this case, having the heads interact with each other AND comment on the ongoing action hopelessly crosses the boundary from metaphorical image to inexplicable event. And there's our pal the Vision being used as the corner icon, as we've mentioned recently. Although I wasn't as fond of this more dynamic version they'd come up with. Much preferred the stoic, arms-folded one that they used for years before that. But those things do need refreshing every once in awhile. I only read this arc for the first time in recent months, and while it didn't particularly stick with me, I do have a seem to recall feeling that the Avengers were too easily beaten. I'll have to double-check. . . HB Ha! Answered my own question by using the resources on this very site (cover gallery). Cover was drawn by Jack Kirby, inked by Al Milgrom (can't believe I didn't recognize his sorta retro inking style). HB
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Post by michidiers on Nov 18, 2009 15:21:38 GMT -5
Oh, yes that´s right. The artists are Jack Kirby and Al Milgrom. On the cover are tiny initials: "KJ/AM" = Jack Kirby/Al Milgrom. They are next to Caps right ear on the stone wall. I think the covers from issues #151 - #158 and Giant Size #6 are from Krby/Milgrom. Lots of them got these initials, partially hidden. Por example #155 on a electric switch, pushed by Dr. Doom next to Dooms hand.
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Post by sharkar on Nov 19, 2009 12:21:43 GMT -5
It's also a hilarious (albeit unintentionally so) example of the ol' "Floating Head" cover convention. In this case, they're Floating TALKING Heads, to boot! About 6 months ago I believe there was a rather entertaining thread covering this kinda oddball phenomenon. In this case, having the heads interact with each other AND comment on the ongoing action hopelessly crosses the boundary from metaphorical image to inexplicable event. HB, that's wild--I noted Mich's post the other day and meant to come back to it, because I had the same reaction you did--#154's cover is downright hysterical. Naturally this isn't the first time I've seen it, but it never fails to make me giggle, for the reasons you state. And what really gets me is Cap spouting "Good Lord! This can't be happening!" as if he's never before seen an Avenger battling an enemy! Anyway, you describe the overall inaneness of this cover well (no surprise there). And there's our pal the Vision being used as the corner icon, as we've mentioned recently. Although I wasn't as fond of this more dynamic version they'd come up with. Much preferred the stoic, arms-folded one that they used for years before that. I preferred the original image too. As you probably know, it was from John Buscema's Vision from the cover of Avengers #87, slightly modified by Neal Adams (or so I've read). To tell the truth, though, I preferred the earlier corner boxes the ones with the multiple heads (of the non-talking variety, thankfully ) (same for the FF comic). When Marvel changed the box (in 1971) to the Vision by himself, I remember really resenting it...because to a long-time Avengers reader like me, the Vision was a johnny-come-lately. But his ascension to the box meant there was no doubt he was then-writer Roy Thomas' favorite Avenger; and Vizh indeed became the focus of the Avengers for years. (Okay, I admit I started to like the Vision after #81, when it became clear that Roy had something in mind vis-à-vis Vizh and Wanda...). Ah, Al Milgrom--Shiryu's favorite artist! BTW, Michidiers, I am really enjoying your summaries/comments on these issues! And I love the Kirby covers from this period; they're charmingly old-fashioned (both now, and I think even back then in the mid-1970s).
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Post by humanbelly on Nov 21, 2009 6:06:57 GMT -5
To tell the truth, though, I preferred the earlier corner boxes the ones with the multiple heads (of the non-talking variety, thankfully ) (same for the FF comic). When Marvel changed the box (in 1971) to the Vision by himself, I remember really resenting it...because to a long-time Avengers reader like me, the Vision was a johnny-come-lately. But his ascension to the box meant there was no doubt he was then-writer Roy Thomas' favorite Avenger; and Vizh indeed became the focus of the Avengers for years. (Okay, I admit I started to like the Vision after #81, when it became clear that Roy had something in mind vis-à-vis Vizh and Wanda...). ] Yep, LOVED the old corner-box icons w/ the active roster represented. And was delighted when, years & years after they let go of that convention, they brought it back by popular demand (I seem to remember that was a much-appreciated Jim Shooter mandate). Boy, I know time marches on/consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds/art must never stand still/razza-razza-razza---- but the decision to eliminate those distinctive rectangular boxes from all of Marvel's titles (wow, like, 38 years ago??) is what sort of marks the end of Marvel's own Golden Age for me. It was a visual hook that said at a glance, "This is a MARVEL COMIC". (Well, in fact, it literally did say almost exactly that.) Since then, there's not been any trademark icon on the cover nearly as eye-catching. I do suspect, though, that they were a huge burden from a cover-design perspective. Sometimes the background color in the box would have absolutely nothing to do w/ the the color of the cover itself. I even noticed this as a clue-less 10 to 12 year old goober. HB
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Post by michidiers on Nov 27, 2009 7:55:09 GMT -5
US Avengers # 155 „To stand alone“ Attuma and Namor are further in a desperate struggle for the throne of Atlantis. The Avengers and the meanwhile as well involved Dr.Doom (from Super Villian Team Up #9) are standing between the front lines. Thereby Attuma enters into possesion of a deadly weapon from a submarine lab of the US Gouvernment. The danger of the wold domination of Attuma is threatening now. In account of this, Vision contacts in an arbitrary act the sinister Dr. Doom and submits an offer to him … (super cliffhanger!). This issue is part of a mini-crossover (AV 154, Super Villian Team Up 9 and AV 155, 156. My pity: I´m not an owner of the Super Villian Team Up 9 an so I don´t know the story from that issue. But writer Gerry Conway and penciller Gerorge Perez supplys the reader with the missing informations on a ingenious doublesplash-page. Conway and Perez perfomed on page 3 and 4 a marvellous mix of flashbacks and a fight against Dr. Doom and his comrades. See here:
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Post by sharkar on Dec 1, 2009 20:43:11 GMT -5
I just love these covers--look at the heroes' balloon muscles, classic Kirby! I can't wait for the next cover (I assume you will post #156's cover--right, michidiers?), which showcases a great image of the Scarlet Witch.
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Post by sharkar on Dec 1, 2009 21:39:33 GMT -5
Boy, I know time marches on/consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds/art must never stand still/razza-razza-razza---- but the decision to eliminate those distinctive rectangular boxes from all of Marvel's titles (wow, like, 38 years ago??) is what sort of marks the end of Marvel's own Golden Age for me. I can see why the corner boxes were eliminated (at that time, "38 years ago"): remember, there was a new cover design instituted starting with the Marvels cover-dated November 1971: the "frame" cover. The Nov. 1971-and-after covers now featured the action in--well, a box! So I guess to have two boxes (or two rectangular shapes, a small one and a bigger one) on a cover would have been silly. (And some months later, Marvel placed a small circle--a spotlight of sorts--behind the corner figure.) As for the elimination of the corner box marking the "end of Marvel's own Golden Age for me"--well, HB, that really hits home in my case. The first Fantastic Four cover to sport the frame cover was the Nov. 1971 issue--#116--and this was actually the last FF issue I read, until I returned to comics in 2004 or 2005! So the elimination of the corner box really did mark the end of my FF "Golden Age" reading!
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Post by sharkar on Dec 1, 2009 21:51:01 GMT -5
It was a visual hook that said at a glance, "This is a MARVEL COMIC". (Well, in fact, it literally did say almost exactly that.) Since then, there's not been any trademark icon on the cover nearly as eye-catching. Speaking of visual hooks and eye-catching and all that jazz- -what about DC's fabled go-go checks? (Okay, okay, the joke was that the checks atop the cover let kids know at a glance what NOT to buy on the newsstands...) Hmmm...well, at least the go-go checks lasted a lot longer (circa 18 months) than Marvel's Pop Art Productions logo (4 months?). ;D
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Post by sharkar on Dec 1, 2009 22:08:43 GMT -5
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Post by humanbelly on Dec 2, 2009 12:34:49 GMT -5
Hahahahaahahahahahaa! Oh, those Marvel POP-ART PRODUCTIONS! That forgotten ad-campaign came and went in my very early childhood, at least a couple of years before I'd bought even my first comic book. When an older buddy told me about it a few years later, I thought he was pulling my leg. Then he produced the very issues in question. . . and I still couldn't believe it. Stan was without question an enormously erupting volcano of creativity and ideas-- that's a very well-known artistic/creative "type". But we do (and heck, probably should-) tend to overlook the fact that lotsa & lotsa pretty bad ideas will come erupting out right alongside the brilliant ones. With all of the same drive, enthusiasm and commitment. Yup. Tennessee Williams wrote a large canon of terrific plays. . . and a HUGE canon of awful ones. Michael Caine has made many, many good films-- and probably a greater number of ones where you go, "Really? You really wanted to do this picture?" (Same w/ Ben Kingsley). Picasso was an unsurpassed artistic workhorse. But he himself despised much of his own work, including most of what he did in his later years ('course a lot of famous painters are like that). But I digress. . . I remember reading Stan's whole breathless announcement about how Marvel was going to change the public's perception of comic books with this move, and that it would legitimize them in the public's eye, etc, etc (although I think he used a lot hipper phraseology)--- and even as an adolescent I could see that it was little more than a brazen marketing ploy to latch onto the trendy Pop-Art movement that saturated the mid-60's, and profit from it. I mean, I found it endearing, even. Sort of smiled, thinking, "Oh yeah, THIS'LL be the defining innovation that changes the face of comic books as we know them, alright. Yessir." Stan's perennial, unshakable belief that he was perpetually discovering and producing the Next Big Thing-- and shilling it gleefully to all of us willing participants-- gave him much more of a personal presence for us, I think. And there's something innately appealing about seeing that kinda flawed, yet sincere, face of the company working so hard for our comic book dollar (well, 12 Cents)-- as opposed to the more "professional", yet somewhat impersonal, staff at DC at the time (Or the non-existent presences at the other companies). But the Pop-Art books was particularly great, 'cause the Total Commitment was followed so ridiculously quickly by the Shameless Backpedal-! Ah, happy times. . . HB
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Post by michidiers on Dec 5, 2009 11:22:55 GMT -5
HB: In our german issues the cornerbox remainded constant from the first until the last issue #100 with the image of Vision with folded arms: shakar: Right, the next issue will be the # 156! You remarked the cover-image of #155 in one of my last posts? Next to the wrist of the left hand of Dr. Doom, on the purple switch are tiny initials of Jack Kirby and Al Milgroom!
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Post by sharkar on Dec 5, 2009 14:33:21 GMT -5
HB: In our german issues the cornerbox remainded constant from the first until the last issue #100 with the image of Vision with folded arms Ah yes--the Rächer's corner box, with the Vision's costume colors reversed (for the 100 issue run). I'd previously asked about how the Vision was colored in the pages of the comics themselves, and our old pal Yellowjacket confirmed the Vision sported the correct cotume colors in the comics' interiors--despite how the Vizh appeared in the corner box (hey, do you suppose they were going for a Flash/Reverse-Flash effect? ).
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Post by michidiers on Dec 16, 2009 12:14:49 GMT -5
US Avengers # 156 "The private war of Dr. Doom"The Avengers, Namor and Dr. Doom are unvoluntarily forced to an almagation against the endless power of Attuma and Tykat to avoid a wold-domiantion of these two sinister buddys. The assault on the headquarter of Attuma, a submarine citadel, is succsessful. Atuma, Tykat and his army are beatened. But after the fight one of the cooperation partner, Dr. Doom, pursued his own goal. He comprehendes the full potential of the stolen cell-stimulating blaster (from #155, stolen by Attuma) and enters into possesion of it. But for gods sake the Avengers are faster , Vison destroys the blaster. Dr. Doom is forced to flee. Central point of this and the last storys is in my opinion Vision, merely his own profound thougths. Vison is all along lost in thoughts about his rising emotions like an alien in his brain. He ponders about his love to Wanda, his closeness to the new Avenger Wonderman, whose brain patterns were imprinted on the black slate of his manmade mind. It appears to me, that in one of the next issues will occure an evil event to our friend Vision...
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Post by sharkar on Dec 23, 2009 21:06:45 GMT -5
That's the cover I was waiting for, michidiers! Is Wanda double-jointed or what?? ;D Boy, you have to love Kirby's crazy anatomy! And I like the Cap-Wanda "pairing" on #156's cover. You know, I've always wanted them to get together- -I was disappointed with what happened when they (seemingly) did hook up a few years ago, because the story was altered at some point so it would fit into Dissembled. But that's another post for another time... Anyway, #156's cover also makes me think of another classic Kirby Avengers cover, which also features a protective Cap with Wanda (and Attuma is in both issues!):
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Post by michidiers on Dec 30, 2009 9:00:21 GMT -5
@shakar: Avengers 27 (Geman Rächer 26) got one of the best covers ever drawn! I love it. And you are right: Cap an the Witch, what amazing lovers they would be... Ay, before I forget: US Avengers # 157„A ghost of stone“ The Avengers become at Chistmas Eve 1976 a visitor. No, not Santa Claus is coming! The to stone mutated Black Night (Defenders #4 , Loki and Enchantrass were responsible for it) blames the avengers for his arkward situation and beatened the whole Avenger-unit at that evening (Iron Man, YJ, Wasp, Iron Man, Wonmderman, Scarlet Witch). Only Vison resists. He convinced the stone-man to overthink his situation. And the “Gargoyle” remembers after a deep consideration: “Just after a kiss from the enchantress he shifted to pure stone.” And then the soul of Dane Whitman get away from the stone-body an traveled back into the 12.th century to the body of an ancestor of Dane Whitman. The realisation of an soulless stone let him crumble into dust. Only Vision is remaining and poundering: Am I only a soulless (plastic-)body, too? Whitin short time (#157 – stone Black Knight, # 154 – Tykat the Atlantian) two foes gets unmolested into the Avenger Mansion and beatened the whole avengergroup with easyness like flys. Who is responsible for the security there and why it is so easy to beat them? And I have guessed I´m reading something about the mighty team of the world…. The pencils were from Don Heck. At the first instance he draws well, but the Scarlet Witch looks like a Drag Queen…
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Post by michidiers on Jan 2, 2010 3:02:36 GMT -5
Is someone able to explain me, why the cornerbox of that issue hasn´t go the 15ct price in the corner box-? Instead of the 15ct price above Visions head in the corner box is the mark: 1/ - I´ve bought that Avenger Comic No. 80 last week on EBay-Germany. The photo is the Ebay selling foto.
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Post by spiderwasp on Jan 3, 2010 0:50:27 GMT -5
Is someone able to explain me, why the cornerbox of that issue hasn´t go the 15ct price in the corner box-? Instead of the 15ct price above Visions head in the corner box is the mark: 1/ - . Hmmm. Interesting. I pulled out my copy of this book and it says 15ct. I'm curious to see if someone has an explanation for you.
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Post by humanbelly on Jan 3, 2010 6:24:03 GMT -5
Is it a non-U.S. edition, maybe? This would have been, what-- 1971 or '72, yes? Man, where was Marvel shipping books to, at that point? I didn't think that many overseas places. . .
Surely not a British Pound. A German Mark, perhaps? Awfully pricey, but not out of the realm of possibility. I do imagine there will be solid clues inside when you receive the book.
HB
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Post by michidiers on Jan 4, 2010 12:51:03 GMT -5
I´ve got that issue #80 now here in my hands. It looks like an normal Avengerscomic, like my other old Avengerscomics from that time (the ´70 th). The quality of the paper, the advertisement, the imprint, the smell, the letters of the readers to the editor, the imprint (imprint: is this the right english/american word for it?) and the "Approved by the comic code".
I haven´t got any clue. Who may help me???
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