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Post by Tana Nile on Mar 28, 2007 20:28:05 GMT -5
As part of the privileged upper class of superhumans, I assume they get special treatment and will stay put in NYC. Meanwhile, some poor schmuck like Captain Ultra will probably wind up helping Nutcase keep the peace in South Cakalaki. They'll be stationed in a crumbling Motel 6, with a food per diem of $10 a day, forced to subsist on Sonic hamburgers, and make use of Rick Jones old Teen Brigade radio equipment. you know, I may be setting a dangerous precedent by exalting people when they make fun of me,... but some of these jokes are too daggum funny. Exalt for you. The sad thing is, in my little spot of a town we only have one motel,... and it is a 6 My dear fellow Avenger, I would never make fun of you! I have nothing but the deepest respect for South Cakalaki, wherever it is. In reality, I was trying to show the discrepancies between the haves and have nots of this new regime... And thank you for the exalt! Excelsior!
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 28, 2007 20:37:11 GMT -5
I still just want to know how you knew about our Motel 6.
Mysterious
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Post by The Night Phantom on Mar 28, 2007 21:54:07 GMT -5
If you give any team to puerto rico, then American Samoa's gonna want a team, then the US virgin Islands it just won't ever end. Well, there’d be DC (no, not the Distinguished Competition…), Guam, and the Northern Marianas, and that would about wrap it up, unless our associations with the Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, and Palau extended to the Initiative too.
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Post by imperiusrex on Mar 28, 2007 22:37:12 GMT -5
If you give any team to puerto rico, then American Samoa's gonna want a team, then the US virgin Islands it just won't ever end. Well, there’d be DC (no, not the Distinguished Competition…), Guam, and the Northern Marianas, and that would about wrap it up, unless our associations with the Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, and Palau extended to the Initiative too. couldn't micronesia get the micronauts? ow. sorry. any retribution will not only be accepted, but understood as well. have at me...
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Post by The Night Phantom on Mar 28, 2007 23:15:52 GMT -5
couldn't micronesia get the micronauts? ow. sorry. any retribution will not only be accepted, but understood as well. have at me... Letting the punishment fit the crime, I shall exact retribution only in a minuscule amount.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 29, 2007 11:36:10 GMT -5
We can't forget Iraq, doesn't Bush believe we own that now as well?
OOOhhhh political humor, I'm sorry. Really
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Post by The Night Phantom on Mar 29, 2007 19:44:58 GMT -5
Do you hope the Initiative suceeds or fails? I haven’t known how to respond to this poll. What constitutes success or failure?
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 29, 2007 20:55:17 GMT -5
I would think failure would be easy to describe.
For me a failure would be if villians are able to utilize weaknesses in the fifty states set-up to further their own goals in an obvious manner. Or if this results in conflicts between state groups. Or if things devolve into a police state.
Any of these things could constitute failure.
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Mar 29, 2007 21:40:16 GMT -5
But what about the idea that makes heroes special has nothing to do with their powers. Remember? What makes them heroes is NOT their powers, its who they are. How many times has this been shown to us in stories where the teams lose their powers? I don't know -- but it's a convention of the genre. So, just finding a bunch of dingbats with powers and making them state sponsored heroes -- that shouldn't work. I mean, do we, as comics fans really believe that the Initiative's 50-state plan can replace the heroes we know?
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Mar 29, 2007 21:41:36 GMT -5
And I guess we can expect Klaw and Dazzler to form the core of the team in IlliNOIS.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 29, 2007 22:09:19 GMT -5
And I guess we can expect Klaw and Dazzler to form the core of the team in IlliNOIS. Dont forget that songbird will leave the Tbolts to join the team in Illinois. IlliNOIS,... man that's just bad ;D So does that mean Blade would lead the team in ConnectiCUT?
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Post by spiderwasp on Mar 30, 2007 8:47:57 GMT -5
IlliNOIS,... man that's just bad ;D So does that mean Blade would lead the team in ConnectiCUT? And Hydro-man will lead in WASHington- Oh no! Now I've contributed to the madness! (Or is it the badness?)
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Post by balok on Mar 30, 2007 8:50:42 GMT -5
Does that mean Frank Cho will draw the all female team that operates out of KANsas?
<slinking away now>
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 30, 2007 10:45:21 GMT -5
Does that mean Frank Cho will draw the all female team that operates out of KANsas? <slinking away now> that's just stinky man. So wasp and yellowjacket would then go to MINNIsota?
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Post by dlw66 on Mar 30, 2007 12:18:31 GMT -5
As I mentioned earlier, after reading the NA with Crystal bedding the Sentry -- she will definitely be in charge of the branch in I-da-ho.
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Post by imperiusrex on Mar 30, 2007 14:52:33 GMT -5
Look what I have wrought...
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Post by dlw66 on Mar 30, 2007 14:54:01 GMT -5
Thank you, thank you very much...
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Post by The Night Phantom on Mar 30, 2007 17:26:40 GMT -5
Do you hope the Initiative suceeds or fails? I haven’t known how to respond to this poll. What constitutes success or failure? I would think failure would be easy to describe. For me a failure would be if villians are able to utilize weaknesses in the fifty states set-up to further their own goals in an obvious manner. Or if this results in conflicts between state groups. Or if things devolve into a police state. Any of these things could constitute failure. Thanks for pitching in, but I’m still a little muddled. Your post and Overlord’s initial post in the thread seem to discuss stories that describe failure, rather than stories that themselves fail. But maybe you think those stories would be storytelling failures too. I’m not sure. Even if you are primarily concerned with storytelling success or failure, the diegetic (in-story) success or failure of the Initiative itself would probably play some role or other in the story’s evaluation. I appreciate the attempt to help describe diegetic failure. What would be diegetic success? I certainly haven’t read all there is to read about the Initiative, but what little I know seems to be about the form and method (though perhaps not enough about the form and method) and virtually nothing about the purpose. Maybe I’ll have to see Avengers: The Initiative #1 to start finding the answers.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 30, 2007 19:07:21 GMT -5
OK I see what you are asking. I don't hope the story fails. I hope the story helps to take care of some of the problems past things have created for me.
I'm looking toward stories that show failures in the Initiative.
Before anyone flames me, think about it. If all they tell is stories about the initiatives unbridled success, things may be just a tad boring.
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Post by Doctor Bong on Mar 30, 2007 20:26:05 GMT -5
Unlike, as we already established, life in South Cakalaki... Thank God for inbred ninjas...!!!
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Post by thew40 on Mar 31, 2007 17:41:45 GMT -5
Before anyone flames me, think about it. If all they tell is stories about the initiatives unbridled success, things may be just a tad boring. True. However, it could lead to the revitalization of older threats and perhaps bigger villians that prove to be a challenge to the Intiative teams. For the Marvel Universe as a functioning world, having the Initiative is a plus. It's like having a National Guard of super-heroes. And not only does it bring in new heroes, it can also allow older heroes to step back into the spotlight again. That being said, I think it's time we seem the villians try and adapt to this situation. Can you imagine 50 Super-Villian teams? All at the command of the Red Skull or Doctor Doom? That would be awesome. ~W~
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Post by Doctor Bong on Mar 31, 2007 19:05:57 GMT -5
Okay, yes... It WOULD be awesome, perhaps even after been done 2 times, but after that... what...?
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Post by uberwolf on Mar 31, 2007 20:09:56 GMT -5
That being said, I think it's time we seem the villians try and adapt to this situation. Can you imagine 50 Super-Villian teams? All at the command of the Red Skull or Doctor Doom? That would be awesome. ~W~ I don't think you could have 50 supervillain teams, not ones that would last long anyway. That's the problem with villains, they don't play well with others. It's going to be d**n hard to keep that many hero teams at the same time. I don't think the bad guys could pull it off.
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Post by dlw66 on Mar 31, 2007 21:27:18 GMT -5
I'm reading this and thinking of all of the very good artists through the years who have said that doing a large group book like Legion of Super-Heroes just killed them.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 1, 2007 19:25:06 GMT -5
Silver Sable, Goldenrod, Iron Man, Titanium Man would need to form a team in OREgon,... whatta mean we're not doing that joke anymore,... I didn't get the memo.
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Post by uberwolf on Apr 1, 2007 20:09:18 GMT -5
Silver Sable, Goldenrod, Iron Man, Titanium Man would need to form a team in OREgon,... whatta mean we're not doing that joke anymore,... I didn't get the memo. Heh, that was bad. Almost smite worthy bad.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 1, 2007 20:43:15 GMT -5
threats of smites from 2 different directions?!?!?
Where is Doom? I need him to take some of the heat off me.
DOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!!
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Post by The Night Phantom on Apr 1, 2007 20:44:18 GMT -5
Silver Sable, Goldenrod, Iron Man, Titanium Man would need to form a team in OREgon,... whatta mean we're not doing that joke anymore You’re passing that off as a joke? It must be April Fools’…
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Post by dlw66 on Apr 1, 2007 21:16:15 GMT -5
I write I-da-ho, and I get nothing. At least nutcase got threatened with a smite...
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Post by uberwolf on Apr 1, 2007 21:59:33 GMT -5
I write I-da-ho, and I get nothing. At least nutcase got threatened with a smite... Oh don't think that went unnoticed. El Macho Maximo has an almost smite for you too!
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