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Post by Tana Nile on May 23, 2007 10:58:19 GMT -5
There have been so many incarnations of Hulk over the years - which one did you personally enjoy the most?
The original Hulk wasn't as smart as Banner, but he wasn't an idiot either. He was more like a traditional tough guy, a bit of a bully even.
Later, Hulk came to be seen as sort of an innocent simpleton, who tried to do good but whose actions were always misinterpreted.
Mr. Fixit was a lot like original Hulk, only he seemed more cunning and in control.
The smart Hulk of the Peter David years was a real break with tradition and took the character into interesting stories.
I know there have been other versions as well. What is everyone's fave?
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Post by Doctor Doom on May 23, 2007 11:10:43 GMT -5
I'll be brutally honest here: I hate the Hulk. I do not know why. He is the only major marvel icon I simply CANNOT stand. I have never read a Hulk story I have enjoyed, ever, and when he's on the Defenders or whatever I simply want him to leave
You can imagine how overjoyed I was to have a marvel crossover about him.
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Post by Alchemist-X on May 23, 2007 13:30:25 GMT -5
Innocent dumb Hulk, I choose you!
after he started going through too many changes, and got smart and stuff I generally lost interest in Hulk, but the Innocent dumb Hulk is the only classical Hulk I know.
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Post by fiero84 on May 23, 2007 14:33:43 GMT -5
While I was not a HULK fan in the beginning. I have been rediscovering other Marvel comic characters. I recently watched the HULK movie (yea, I know it's been out since 2005) and Ultimate Avengers movie. I think he's interesting to see time to time. I like the recent cartoOn version in Ultimate Avengers movie. He looks fierce and menacing! ..the 70's , 80's he seemed too friendly, P.C. in cartoOns. I hated his long hair I guess ,too.  Reading the Avengers Masterworks (reprints of original issues), I was stunned to see he could speak in complete, coherent sentances! ..unlike a famous politician..  HULK was dumbed down I guess somewhere down the road. |
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Post by Tana Nile on May 23, 2007 20:17:17 GMT -5
I should have included Ultimate Hulk too, guess I was just too focused on the 'regular' universe. But he's definitely an option.
Personally, I am torn between smart Hulk and the early Hulk. While I read the innocent/dumb Hulk as a kid, when I go back to those stories now they are very hit or miss. Whether I like the story or not has less to do with the Hulk and more to do with who he interacts with during the course of the issue. The dumb Hulk just can't sustain my interest by himself.
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Post by Nutcase65 on May 24, 2007 15:38:28 GMT -5
I went with other. I loved that run where Hulk was very strong hulk and Bruce Banner smart, but that wasn't what I liked.
When he got mad and turned into :
RAMPAGING BRUCE BANNER!
that was great.
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Post by Alchemist-X on May 24, 2007 15:56:38 GMT -5
Ya I wanna change my vote to Rampaging Bruce Banner too
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Post by Nutcase65 on May 24, 2007 16:05:56 GMT -5
I remember reading that issue and when he got mad and changed I laughed so hard I cried.
It reminded me of me.
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Post by Doctor Doom on May 24, 2007 16:43:58 GMT -5
...I still cannot comprehend how ANYONE can read the Hulk... d**n personal prejudice...
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Post by Nutcase65 on May 24, 2007 17:58:39 GMT -5
I've never been the biggest Hulk booster, but my hulkbusting friend ran over to my house when this issue came out. You can't go wrong with a rampaging Bruce Banner
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Post by Alchemist-X on May 28, 2007 18:41:48 GMT -5
And people say Doom loves Marvel blindly
Hulks had some good stories, most of the older ones in my opinion, the Newer incarnations suffer from too much extended history to work around, and overuse of good story concepts already. Haven't read it consistently in a while however, fell out of favor and never saw a good jumping on point again.
Even WWH doesn't strike me as a good jumping on point right now though.
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Post by balok on May 28, 2007 20:26:45 GMT -5
I haven't read the Hulk in a long time. I got hooked in it when Peter David wrote it a decade or more ago, but when he left (because Marvel wanted the Hulk dumb again), so did I.
He's far from my favorite character, but I liked the smart Hulk best. It cannot be easy to tell good stories about dumb characters.
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Post by Alchemist-X on May 29, 2007 16:28:03 GMT -5
thats what makes the good dumb hulk stories all the better
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Post by Alchemist-X on May 29, 2007 16:28:33 GMT -5
and the bad dumb Hulk stories all the worse.
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Post by The Night Phantom on Jun 1, 2007 22:09:13 GMT -5
thats what makes the good dumb hulk stories all the better and the bad dumb Hulk stories all the worse. You stand exalted for saying something true and profound, then coupling it with something true and quite funny! |
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Post by Doctor Bong on Jun 4, 2007 14:46:32 GMT -5
I'm assuming the current incarnation of the Hulk is a sort of amalgam between the smart green Hulk & the grey one (smart, but perhaps a little more ruthless than the smart green Hulk...), since he's obviously not dumb at all...
I mean, 'cause the smart green Hulk I knew could be at times more of an anti-hero than a "classic" hero, but he had too much of Bruce Banner in him to purposely wreak havok on planet Earth just to get revenge on a bunch of guys... yes, admitedly, what he has recently gone through is the equivalent of revisiting the death of Betty Ross, certainly a devastating, traumatic experience but still, the Hulk used to be, you know, one of the "good guys" at heart... Oh, but I forget... the Hulk of the brave NEW Marvel order is NOT anymore my Hulk... In fact, he's a monster (both without & within) who's worse than any supervillian, since he's responsible for the loss of thousands of innocent lives... Sigh...! I guess that's what some people would call "character development"...
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Post by Doctor Bong on Jun 4, 2007 14:50:59 GMT -5
In other words, my favorite Hulk could be any of his previous incarnations, EXCEPT the one who's on his way back to Earth now...
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Post by dlw66 on Jun 4, 2007 15:04:50 GMT -5
One of my favorite Hulk stories is in FF #166-67 where Hulk and Ben team-up. It is very humanizing for both "monsters", and features some very early George Perez art on the title.
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Post by Doctor Doom on Jun 4, 2007 15:14:32 GMT -5
Actually, fraid you're wrong Bong. The current Hulk is NOT responsible for the death of thousands. It's been established many people died in his rampages but we're talking maybe a hundred or two, and even then just how guilty he is is debatable. So he's far from "Monster inside and out".
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Post by Doctor Bong on Jun 4, 2007 16:17:49 GMT -5
Well, I'm glad to know that such is the case, Doom... I guess some of the talk led me to believe we were talking about thousands of casualties, after all the Hulk has been rampaging all over the Earth for many years now, even if we apply Marvel's sliding time scale to him... I probably read some speculations on that regard & I took them for fact but, in any case, I'm glad that's not the case...
Still, to cause a conflagration of global proportions just to satisfy a desire for revenge doesn't seem like any thinking Hulk that I've known...
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Post by balok on Jun 4, 2007 21:49:02 GMT -5
Maybe a hundred or two? You do know that when an actual serial killer reaches double digits, law enforcement starts to form special task forces, multi-agency cooperatives, and suchlike. At least over here. I can't imagine that if the Hulk *really* killed (or caused the deaths of) a hundred or two people, that there wouldn't be a hue and cry for his destruction from *everyone*, especially in the climate of fear that got the SHRA passed. Why aren't people demanding that Tony, as the new head of SHIELD, see to the Hulk's complete destruction (and toss the body into the sun)? Or, are they?
Certain characters simply don't work in a hyper-realistic world. (The Punisher and The Joker are two other examples - somehow, someone would have killed them long before this.)
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Post by scribbler357 on Jun 5, 2007 11:16:10 GMT -5
THIS IS NOT A BENDIS BASH - REPEAT -- THIS IS NOT A BENDIS BASH
Maybe it's just me, but the subject of how many people The Hulk might have killed during his rampages didn't become a real subject of debate until after the House of M reboot. I mean maybe the Marvel "real world" is a good thing because the innocence is long gone...
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Post by scribbler357 on Jun 6, 2007 15:49:50 GMT -5
Now that I think about it, it probably started with Ultimates #5, "The Hulk takes Manhattan," in which at least 800 people died.
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Post by Alchemist-X on Jun 6, 2007 23:24:55 GMT -5
There has been anti-Hulk Government agencies in the past, so I guess to a certain extent, the anger over the Hulk's destruction has been dealt with by the governemnt(or they were in the process of dealing with it over the years)
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Post by Shiryu on Jun 7, 2007 10:31:47 GMT -5
I seem to remember that the Hulk's victims were more like casualties, from battles between him and someone else, or acts of defence against the army. Anyway, I voted for the simpleton Hulk, aka Hulk Smash!! He is definitely not a fav of mine and I only have 5 or 6 of his issues in total, but it was refreshing having a guy who would just hit, with no complicated plans etc. However, when they psychoanalized him, with all the stuff about Bruce's childhood, father etc, I completely lost interest in the character. |
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Post by Nutcase65 on Jun 8, 2007 19:33:31 GMT -5
also we can't forget the Mego Hulk from Twisted Toyfare Theater.
Mego Hulk rules
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