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Post by thew40 on Sept 7, 2007 16:21:13 GMT -5
forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=128459 What the -- ?! Hmmm . . . apparently, more info will be made available on Setpember 10th (Monday), so we'll know more now. I have more confidence in this project than "Avengers Disassembled," mainly because Mike Carey and Ed Brubaker are pretty good writers and have done a decent job on the X-Titles. Yost and Kyle aren't so good, but . . . meh . . . More as it develops . . . ~W~
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Post by Doctor Doom on Sept 7, 2007 17:09:06 GMT -5
Sssssh the w! I'm sure this is an absolutely horrific development which is a plague upon the x-men and will simply evilly redefine them into grim villains who believe ends always justify means and let that evil Joe Quesada have his diabolical way with them. Never mind that the vast, vast, VAAAAAST majority of the x-men fanbase want to marry Carey, who's a major part of it, and that whereas Avengers Disassembled recieved very, very mixed feedback and came out of nowhere this has been built up to for some time and Carey/brubaker have gotten got feedback so far. It's a giant, evil conspiracy, dontcha see? :rolleyes No but seriously, I'm assuming it's Messiah CompleX. Calling it X-Men Disassembled would be silly, as the X-Men didn't... er... ASSEMBLE in the first place. Strife and discord among the children of the atom? Excellent.
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Post by thew40 on Sept 7, 2007 17:14:19 GMT -5
Buzz I've been hearing is that it has something to do with the aftermath of Messiah CompleX. One rumor I heard was that the end result of Messiah CompleX was that the X-Men basically shatter. It would go along with the theories that the post-MCX book by Carey (dealing with a long-term member going out and basically gathering a team around himself) is about the X-Men basically reassembling. All theories and rumors, of course. ~W~
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Post by Doctor Doom on Sept 7, 2007 17:20:56 GMT -5
Might make sense. But didn't Carey say it was going to start as a maxi series and then go ongoing? Seems odd they'd rebuild the X-Men in a Maxi-series while they have all their different titles. :S Still, it would be nice to see the X-Men shatter so we can get more clearly defined books. Thanks to Brubaker, I'm actually reading 1 X-book again for the first time in years (Partially him, partially the return of everyone's favourite master of Magnetism) so there's no reason Messiah CompleX can't get me reading more. I'm actually interested in the X-Universe again for the first time in ages, so if Messiah CompleX can do for the X-Men what Civil War did for the Avengers, that would rock for everyone. Unless you're DC of course
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Post by thew40 on Sept 7, 2007 21:08:47 GMT -5
If you're looking into getting back into the X-World, then I'd like to kindly point you to my Uncanny X-Blog (http://uncannyxperiment.blogspot.com/), which may help you catch up on some much-needed info.
True about the maxi-series, too. We're talking it could be a year before the X-Teams get back up in running, so that rumor/theory is probably shot down.
~W~
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Post by Alchemist-X on Sept 8, 2007 1:51:53 GMT -5
I get Astonishing and New, and due to some sort of clerical error at Marvel, I've been continously getting free copies of plain ol x-men, and I gotta say the only teams worth keeping together would be New and Astonishing, those other lineups need some dead weight shake up, and maybe a certain level of consolidation.
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Post by Doctor Doom on Sept 8, 2007 7:55:37 GMT -5
Am I dreaming or have we just gone through a 6 post thread without any serious whining about how awful this is and how Marvel are ruining their entire line, Joe Q should be fired, this is all Bendis' doing etc... and the thread contains the word 'Disassembled' in the title!!!! ? Guess the X-Men are a nice area to discuss then...
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Post by thew40 on Sept 8, 2007 11:38:56 GMT -5
I get Astonishing and New, and due to some sort of clerical error at Marvel, I've been continously getting free copies of plain ol x-men, and I gotta say the only teams worth keeping together would be New and Astonishing, those other lineups need some dead weight shake up, and maybe a certain level of consolidation. I gave New X-Men a year with the new creative team . . . and they totally lost me. I thought the mass slaughter of all the kids was a terrible idea and completely killed my interest in the title. The cast is over half characters that we were told were the "villains," left-overs of the "good guys," and no-names. But I'll be picking it up for "Messiah CompleX," so maybe that'll be enough to change my mind. ~W~
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Post by dlw66 on Sept 8, 2007 22:20:04 GMT -5
I have not bought an X-Men comic since issue #7 when Jim Lee was doing it. That must be going on 15 years now. When it got to the point that the character list passed, oh -- 200!!!! I just dropped out and haven't been back since.
I have, however, purchased the occasional retro. series (Hidden Years, Children of the Atom, etc.).
So, anyway, you won't get any dissension from me -- because I haven't cared for quite some time!
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Post by spiderwasp on Sept 8, 2007 23:39:50 GMT -5
I have not bought an X-Men comic since issue #7 when Jim Lee was doing it. That must be going on 15 years now. When it got to the point that the character list passed, oh -- 200!!!! I just dropped out and haven't been back since. For me, it's been more like 10 years but the reason is exactly the same. It seemed like the mutant universe was just too big and out of control. Now, I know the X-Men fans will disagree with me but I really don't have a problem if they do a disassembled kind of thing if it streamlines and make things more readable (Though it probably want.) I didn't like it with Avengers because, to me, the book didn't need that kind of overhaul. True, the storylines immediately preceeding Disassembled weren't that great, but nothing had gotten to a point that it couldn't have simply been fixed with a new and better writer. My opinion on X-Men is different. Since I gave it up on it, I'm not likely to be upset at an overhaul. I even had hopes that the one good thing to come out of Wanda's madness (Disassembled and House of M were certainly not it) would be the "No more mutants" utterance that greatly reduced the number of mutants. I'm not sure how much difference it really made though, since it seems like, even though almost all mutants were eliminated, only very few who have ever been on an X team were among them. This is also why Initiative still concerns me. I do like the book pretty well, but it's the whole 50 state thing that I don't like. I see it going in that same direction that Marvel did with the mutants when they decided there were millions of them instead of the way it was in the 60s when there were only dozens or the 70s and 80s when there a couple of hundred. Now we're looking at enough super-heroes to staff teams in 50 states. It seems to me that when everyone is special, no one is.
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Post by Doctor Doom on Sept 9, 2007 5:24:31 GMT -5
As I recall, it was Grant Morrison's.... controversial run (Either loved or hated by most readers) which really brought the mutant numbers to insane higher levels than ever before and made them into a community. Which wasn't bad, but as I recall his grand plan was to have mutants become the majority and humans the minority eventually, which I personally think is a *TERRIBLE* idea for the 616 universe.
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Post by The Night Phantom on Sept 12, 2007 21:00:28 GMT -5
It’s been two days…has any news come out? Marvel.com has a story on the retailer summit that just shows some artwork (not all X-Men–related), including some pieces for X-Force such as this one:
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Post by thew40 on Sept 12, 2007 22:45:47 GMT -5
NOT impressed with the new X-Force team. Ugh.
~W~
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Post by Shiryu on Sept 13, 2007 13:39:21 GMT -5
The black costumes are nice, but I only recognize Wolvie there. In fact, I'm years behind on XM too, because their universe became too confusing and with too many titles. I'm basically stuck at the Byrne / Claremont years I have the Uncanny DVD, perhaps I'll read throught it at some point, otherwise a few bits read on UX.net As such, I don't know what to say about this Disassembled, other than it looks like they want to bring an Avengers idea on the X books for once, rather than the other way around.
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