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Post by Van Plexico on Jan 2, 2007 15:40:48 GMT -5
Figured I'd start us a new thread just for debating the various nominees in each category.
So I'm going to start by saying this: Regardless of my own feelings toward this character, I think that BY FAR the most important Avenger of 2006 was Iron Man. That's not to say I liked the direction he went during the year, but... I don't think anyone could argue that any other Avenger had a bigger year than he did.
Some reasons:
1. Civil War. Duh. He's both the "villain" of the piece and the leader of one of the two "heroic" sides involved. Civil War has, for better or worse, lifted Tony up and made him one of the most important Marvel characters of all.
I think Civil War alone would qualify Tony for Avenger of the Year. But that's hardly all:
2. Illuminati. He gathered the group together-- a group of the most "important leaders" in the MU. And he thought of it and runs the show. 'Nuff said.
3. Iron Man: The Movie. Shellhead's big-budget motion picture was announced in 2006, with Robert Downey as the star and the full support of Marvel Entertainment.
4. His own book made a comeback in 2006, with the Knaufs (of Carnivale fame) writing. Plus the "Inevitable" miniseries.
5. His role in the NEW AVENGERS, as well as in YOUNG AVENGERS.
In all honesty, I don't know how it could be a contest. Iron Man wins this going away.
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Post by johnnyzemo on Jan 2, 2007 17:22:44 GMT -5
You make a good case for IM, Van. Like it or loathe it, Civil War is the big event of 2006. Tony's portrayal has been so unsympathetic at times (as you admit), that I think it hurts his chances of winning a category like this.
I think one could make an equally compelling case for Spider-Man if one was so inclined. But as much as I love Spidey, I can't vote for him in this category because I prefer him as a guest-star in Avengers, not a full-fledged Avenger.
So, I'll have to find a third candidate to back. Hmmm....
Captain America springs to mind, as the yin to Tony's yang.
There must be other worthy candidates out there....
Hank Pym got a lot of attention in EMH2, Beyond, and Civil War.
Hmmm....
I'm still undecided about this one.
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Post by Van Plexico on Jan 3, 2007 1:40:52 GMT -5
"Admit," heck-- I've been railing about it here for months! But it's worth noting that I, at least, think of "Best Avenger of the Year" as not necessarily the one that makes me "happiest," but the one that stood out the most. Sort of like TIME often making its "Man of the Year" someone we don't necessarily like. I suppose it's up to each of us to determine for ourselves just what our own internal criteria for choosing the nominees should be...
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Post by BigDuke on Jan 3, 2007 8:35:16 GMT -5
Is anybody suprised that Van would pick Iron Man Of course, once you throw out the biases we all have and the snarky comments we want to make, I really can't find a flaw in his argument nor can I make as compelling an argument for anyone else. You win Van.
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Post by Van Plexico on Jan 3, 2007 10:12:20 GMT -5
If by "win" you mean my favorite character has become The Devil and a completely unsympathetic villain who imprisons his former friends and allies... then I'd rather lose.
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Post by dlw66 on Jan 3, 2007 11:34:21 GMT -5
I think Van's argument for Shellhead, and justification of said argument, is sound. He will probably get my vote.
However, you could make a case that since Wanda's acts of over a year ago are still impacting what is happening now, she could be considered as most influential...
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Post by Engage on Jan 3, 2007 13:50:02 GMT -5
I agree that Iron Man has had the biggest year, but I think an argument could be made for Captain America. He's the leader of the "good" side of Civil War, and has returned to his role of the Marvel Universe's moral compass. His solo book has been critically acclaimed and his Ultimate counterpart is simply a beast. He's become an extremely marketable figure and has been featured prominently in Civil War advertising and has his own movie in the script writing phase.
However, Iron Man has been everywhere this year. The Illuminati mini-series and the movie are what separates him from Captain America, especially considering that Iron Man hasn't had a major role in the MU in a long time. Think where he was in House of M, compared to at least the emotional story for Captain America.
However, I think Iron Man's actions in the Civil War series and its tie-ins could also give him the rare double win for both Best Active Avenger and Best Avengers Villain.
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Post by The Night Phantom on Jan 3, 2007 22:17:18 GMT -5
Right now I’m leaning toward Iron Man as Active Avenger and Avengers Villain, though I may change my mind on either or both.
For Greatest Avengers “Moment”, I’m considering the Avengers’ backing the Young Avengers against the Kree and Skrull forces in Young Avengers #12, cementing the spinoff team’s legitimacy and relationship with the senior team (until it re-disassembled…). However, it’s perhaps unfortunate that I’m picking a moment in which the Avengers are supporting characters.
I still have a lot of ruminating to do…
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Post by johnnyzemo on Jan 4, 2007 9:58:41 GMT -5
However, Iron Man has been everywhere this year. The Illuminati mini-series and the movie are what separates him from Captain America, especially considering that Iron Man hasn't had a major role in the MU in a long time. I agree that Iron Man is a worthy candidate, but I don't think the movie should count in his favor, since it hasn't been released yet. If we're going to be influenced by movies, we should all be voting for the Beast or Wolverine. ;D (Or, if you count direct-to-video movies, there's always the Black Panther. He's had a big year.)
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Post by Van Plexico on Jan 4, 2007 13:52:04 GMT -5
Well, I was referencing it in terms of it putting the character in the news this past year. It's been one more reason to talk about him.
Y'know, that's true-- I think I'd rank the Panther second to Iron Man, because the second Ultimate Avengers video was all about him, and there was the wedding, etc. Good call.
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Post by Van Plexico on Jan 4, 2007 13:57:40 GMT -5
For Artist of the Year, I have to go with Jim Cheung.
I think his work on YOUNG AVENGERS was spectacularly good. The layouts in YA #12 are simply brilliant-- he used splash pages to real effect, not just for overall impact (the way most artists seem to), or to chew up pages of story. They contributed directly to the unfolding of the scenes in very positive, very cleverly-designed way.
And his art style is in the same vein as Perez and others of the classic Marvel ilk, but with his own unique look to it at the same time. He's become a real favorite.
That being said, I have the utmost respect for Bryan Hitch's work on ULTIMATES 2, especially after having seen the original, huge, pencilled pages up close at Heroes Con. Wow!
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Post by dlw66 on Jan 4, 2007 15:22:41 GMT -5
Hitch's work is stunning -- however, with only 5 issues published this year, that sort of counts against him... I would add that it is almost worth the wait, but that book on schedule would have been very much appreciated!
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Post by The Night Phantom on Jan 5, 2007 18:15:21 GMT -5
For Artist of the Year, I have to go with Jim Cheung. I think his work on YOUNG AVENGERS was spectacularly good. The layouts in YA #12 are simply brilliant-- he used splash pages to real effect, not just for overall impact (the way most artists seem to), or to chew up pages of story. They contributed directly to the unfolding of the scenes in very positive, very cleverly-designed way. And his art style is in the same vein as Perez and others of the classic Marvel ilk, but with his own unique look to it at the same time. He's become a real favorite. That being said, I have the utmost respect for Bryan Hitch's work on ULTIMATES 2, especially after having seen the original, huge, pencilled pages up close at Heroes Con. Wow! Hitch's work is stunning -- however, with only 5 issues published this year, that sort of counts against him... I would add that it is almost worth the wait, but that book on schedule would have been very much appreciated! That could be an even stronger argument against Jim Cheung, since Young Avengers had only three issues in 2006 (though we should also not forget his contribution to New Avengers #25). I still haven’t given a lot of thought to the artist category, but I will give Cheung my earnest consideration nonetheless, as I always enjoy looking at his work. I agree with Van that Cheung’s style evokes the classic Avengers tradition while still being distinctive and enjoyable in its own right.
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Post by Van Plexico on Jan 7, 2007 3:19:20 GMT -5
I have sent my nominees to Zemo-Lad. Now I present them to you, in order that I might politick a bit on behalf of my choices. Do with this as you will. 1. BEST AVENGERS-RELATED STORY OR ARC of 2006 The Liberators in ULTIMATES 2While the Young Avengers and EMH series (plus the THING and some others) were very good, no Avengers-related story this past year hit me as hard as the Liberator invasion of the US in ULTIMATES 2. I never dreamed I'd be voting for anything Ultimates, but Millar hit it out of the park with this. 2. BEST AVENGERS-RELATED WRITER of 2006 Alan HeinbergOverall, I enjoyed the YOUNG AVENGERS series the most, start to finish, and I give Heinberg the nod here. #12 was so good, I can't let him be shut out! 3. BEST AVENGERS-RELATED ARTIST of 2006 Jim CheungA slam-dunk for me. Gorgeous work. 4. BEST ACTIVE AVENGER of 2006 Iron ManSee my previous post. 5. BEST AVENGERS VILLAIN of 2006 Brian Michael BendisI would never have considered voting this way, but upon reflection, it's an obvious choice for me. No one caused the Avengers (or Avengers fans) more grief in 2006. And there was no big Kang or Ultron appearance to challenge this. So BMB wins, as far as I'm concerned. 6. BEST AVENGERS SUPPORTING CHARACTER of 2006 Nicholas "Samuel L. Jackson" "I got mf'in Hydra snakes on my mf'n helicarrier!" FuryMaybe not the best choice, but he had a good year, was in both DVDs, and I had to use that line one last time (after I wore it out at DragonCon). ;D 7. GREATEST AVENGERS "MOMENT" of 2006 Wasp tells the Liberators that Cap has already escaped, in ULTIMATES 2 #10."You idiots-- I freed Cap five minutes ago!" or something to that effect. The utter fear and horror in the eyes of the bad guys in this scene, when they realize what she's said... Wow. Chills. 8. BEST AVENGERS SINGLE PANEL of 2006 Hawkeye kills the bad guys with his fingernails, ULTIMATES 2 #10.Hawkeye does his best Bullseye impersonation, and it works. My jaw hit the floor as I read this. Not my "classic" Avengers, but it works. (This barely beats out several splash pages at the end of Young Avengers 12!) 9. BEST MARVEL COMICS SERIES of 2006 YOUNG AVENGERSTop to bottom, my favorite Marvel Comic of 2006. Sheer class. 10. THE ONE COMIC BOOK EVERYONE SHOULD BE READING IS: YOUNG AVENGERSThough I'm tempted to say MS MARVEL, just to help sales. C'mon, Carol's book has got to survive! *sigh* 11. AVENGERS CREATORS HALL OF FAME (You may nominate two candidates in this category.) Jim Shooter Jack KirbyShooter's my guy, and I have too much respect for the King to leave him out.
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Post by The Night Phantom on Jan 7, 2007 11:09:38 GMT -5
Thanks for throwing your 2¢ in, Van. My ballot will have a lot of departures from yours. For one thing, I don’t read Ultimates, and so I won’t be voting for it in any category. Also, BMB is not an “Avengers villain” in the diogetic sense in which I interpret the term, and so I’ll have to choose someone else—Iron Man still being the #1 contender in my book. What I’ve actually come to post about is the Hall of Fame, to work on some consensus. I thought it would help us narrow things down if we each voted for one writer and one artist. So, I’m happy to see that’s exactly what you have done. My pick for H of F artist is the same as yours, Jack Kirby. He’s co-creator; he remained with the series over the span of several defining issues; his work certainly has presence and style; and he even spills out of the artist category and into the plotter category due to the way he and inaugural inductee Stan Lee worked together. Jack is a tremendous choice. As for H of F writer—I have no problem with Jim Shooter, but I thought he might be a wee bit controversial (mostly because of Hank Pym’s fall from grace), and I thought it might be easier to rally the troops behind someone else. I did post a suggestion earlier—but it was someone who’s already in the Hall of Fame! I guess that makes me a candidate for the Hall of Shame! How about Roger Stern? His lengthy run on Avengers brought in several recruits, including the amazingly efficient Captain Marvel, the mainstay She-Hulk, the classic Sub-Mariner, and the Avenger-you-love-to-hate Doctor Druid. He gave some resolution to Hank Pym’s departure from superheroing, ushered in the West Coast Avengers, made the Wasp into one of the team’s best leaders ever, and gave us the Vision’s takeover of the world and the Masters of Evil’s ultimate revenge. Whether plotting long arcs like the Olympus storyline or simply scripting characterization, Stern’s run was spot-on.
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Post by dlw66 on Jan 7, 2007 18:43:39 GMT -5
Most of my Avenging reading this year centered around Ultimates, so I can certainly feel good about the suggestions Van made that involved that book.
As for Hall of Fame, I will be submitting the names of John Buscema and Steve Englehart. Buscema has pencilled more issues of the book than any other artist, and his run from the fading Don Heck to John's brother Sal, then to Neal Adams, typified the Marvel juggernaut that was the late 60's/early 70's. As for Englehart, he was the scribe when I was cutting my teeth on the book, and remains near and dear to me not only from a nostalgiac pov, but from a quality pov as well.
There is no doubt in my mind that Kirby belongs in the Hall, but when I look at the volume of work that Big John churned out compared to Kirby's 9-10 issues (plus some covers in the mid-1970's), I have to go with John. Similarly, Don Heck ushered the team through its first major line-up change, and did it quite well. My opinions of Heck's work, however, remain somewhat tarnished by the decline of his skills later in his career.
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Post by Engage on Jan 7, 2007 18:55:38 GMT -5
My nominee list is:
1. BEST AVENGERS-RELATED STORY OR ARC of 2006- Civil War It might be way too long, unfocused and out of character, but no story put the Avengers to the forefront of the Marvel Universe this year like Civil War. Its led to mainstream coverage of Avengers characters (Spider-Man), featured two founding Avengers in its promotion and media tours (Captain America and Iron Man) and has manged to push the X-Men away from the peak of the Marvel Universe. Characters that haven't mattered in a long time have appeared in major roles (Pym) and the title has given the Avengers its biggest sales in years.
2. BEST AVENGERS-RELATED WRITER of 2006- Dan Slott (The Thing, She-Hulk) He may not have been on a main Avengers book, but his work on She-Hulk and The Thing has been great. No other Marvel writer has been able to deliver the continuity, heart and humour that his books delivered in 2006. His books have a heart and are a major asset to the characters he writes. The coming year should be even better, with a more integral Avengers project coming down the chute.
3. BEST AVENGERS-RELATED ARTIST of 2006- Bryan Hitch(Ultimates) If the Ultimates are a movie, its Hitch that makes it happen. The book may only ship a couple times a year but its stunning when it does. His art lets the Ultimates tell the huge, over-the-top stories that simply wouldn't work without the amazing artwork.
4. BEST ACTIVE AVENGER of 2006- Iron Man Many have made this argument already in this thread, and while Spider-Man, Captain America and Wolverine have had huge years, Iron Man came out of the shadows to simply be everywhere. He's driven the action of Civil War, has his own series and a new mini, features prominently in the Illuminati, has a coming movie as well as being in both UA2 and Marvel Ultimate Alliance.
5. BEST AVENGERS VILLAIN of 2006- Iron Man For pretty much the reasons above. Whether it was the original intent or not, Iron Man is the villain of Civil War. He's been setting traps for Captain America and plotting against his fellow heroes all year. The Thor Clone-Robot was his project, as was the 42 prison. Iron Man has never been portrayed as this much of a villain, and with Civil War raging, the Ultimates not publishing regularly and New Avengers dealing with Civil War as well, there really hasn't been a traditional major villain this year.
6. BEST AVENGERS SUPPORTING CHARACTER of 2006- Mary Jane Watson-Parker She has her own title, a plot-driving role in the Spider-Man newspaper strip, a role in the Spider-Man unmasking and the hype of Spider-Man 3. That's more than the Sentry did this year.
7. GREATEST AVENGERS "MOMENT" of 2006- Civil War #3: The Punch 8. BEST AVENGERS SINGLE PANEL of 2006- Civil War #3: The Punch Ouch. It was right on par with the always amazing "Batman punches someone so hard they look like they'll never walk again". That's what comics are all about.
9. BEST MARVEL COMICS SERIES of 2006- The Thing This had Lockjaw, the poker tournament and the Bar Mitzvah. Ben Grimm was portrayed with perfection and the comics had both heroism and heart. Ben should have been patrolling Yancy Street for years to come, but it just wasn't meant to be.
10. THE ONE COMIC BOOK EVERYONE SHOULD BE READING IS- The Thing See above. If you missed it the first time around, find the trade.
11. AVENGERS CREATORS HALL OF FAME- John Buscema, Jim Shooter
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Post by The Night Phantom on Jan 7, 2007 18:59:42 GMT -5
As for Hall of Fame, I will be submitting the names of John Buscema and Steve Englehart. There is no doubt in my mind that Kirby belongs in the Hall, but when I look at the volume of work that Big John churned out compared to Kirby's 9-10 issues (plus some covers in the mid-1970's), I have to go with John. There is no doubt in my mind that Buscema and Englehart belong, too! All other things being equal, I might have gone with Buscema for this year—but Van’s already gone with Kirby, and so I decided to for the sake of consensus. I could easily be swayed to Englehart’s side—in addition to his run on the regular series, he also established the regular West Coast series. Similarly, Don Heck ushered the team through its first major line-up change, and did it quite well. If you’re referring to Avengers #16, I believe the layout and pencils are by Kirby and Ayers.
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Post by johnnyzemo on Jan 7, 2007 19:52:18 GMT -5
Also, BMB is not an “Avengers villain” in the diogetic sense in which I interpret the term, For those of you who are consulting your dictionaries to translate N.P.'s comment, allow me to help with this tidbit I borrowed from dictionary.com: "Diegetic" typically refers to the internal world created by the story that the characters themselves experience and encounter....I'm on the fence as to whether or not to allow Bendis in this category. I'm not a fan of his Avengers work, but I think he'd fit better in a "Least Favorite Creator of 2006" category, which we don't have. How do the rest of you feel? Allow Bendis for the Villain category or not?
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Post by Van Plexico on Jan 7, 2007 21:01:48 GMT -5
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Post by dlw66 on Jan 7, 2007 22:16:32 GMT -5
I just sent John an e-mail based on my research. Here are my nominations for this year's Jarvis Awards: 1. BEST AVENGERS-RELATED STORY OR ARC of 2006 Ultimates 2 (I don't know the name of the arc??)
2. BEST AVENGERS-RELATED WRITER of 2006 Mark Millar
3. BEST AVENGERS-RELATED ARTIST of 2006 Manuel Garcia, Marvel Adventures Avengers
4. BEST ACTIVE AVENGER of 2006 Captain America
5. BEST AVENGERS VILLAIN of 2006 Super-Adaptoid, EMH 2
6. BEST AVENGERS SUPPORTING CHARACTER of 2006 Jasper Sitwell, EMH 2
7. GREATEST AVENGERS "MOMENT" of 2006 Tony and Natasha's "break-up", Ultimates 2 #10, pp. 14-17
8. BEST AVENGERS SINGLE PANEL of 2006 New Avengers Annual #1, pp. 24-25: All of the Iron Man armors show up to defeat the Adaptoid
9. BEST MARVEL COMICS SERIES of 2006 EMH 2 -- ah, nostalgia...
10. THE ONE COMIC BOOK EVERYONE SHOULD BE READING IS: Justice by Jim Krueger, Doug Braithwaite, and Alex Ross
11. AVENGERS CREATORS HALL OF FAME (You may nominate two candidates in this category.) John Buscema Steve Engelhart There you go. Since this is the nomination phase, I tried to throw in a couple of ideas that I thought were good that others might not have considered -- doesn't necessarily mean I'll vote for all of these answers, but I could be happy doing so in the end.
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Post by dlw66 on Jan 7, 2007 22:19:27 GMT -5
Phantom --
I sure think you're correct on the art credits for #16. To clarify, I really meant that Heck took the team from that point (I believe he took over the full-time art chores immediately after that story and lasted until around issue #40 or so when Big John Buscema took over; Heck had pencilled the book since around #10 or so) forward, providing the visuals for readers who at the time may have seemed as dismayed about those changes as some of us feel now about the Bendis-changes.
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Jan 8, 2007 13:34:47 GMT -5
I don't read the new issues, so even though I'm tempted to advocate/vote on the basis of hearsay and internet gossip -- I have to abstain from categories 1 through 9
10. THE ONE COMIC BOOK EVERYONE SHOULD BE READING IS:
Avengers Volume I (DVD?)-- Even Quesada and Bendis are right part of the time.
11. AVENGERS CREATORS HALL OF FAME I don't feel Kirby worked on the title long enough to make a major impact. His biggest contribution to the characters came in their individual titles.
So, before I even read dlw's post, I thought to myself 'Buscema and Englehart." \
Buscema gave a look and feel to the book throughout the Roy Thomas years that was so essential, and his contribution under Stern was just as crucial. He deserves it for sheer volum if nothing else -- no other artist has had such a tremendous positive impact. Though, he could almost be disqualified for the design of Grim Reaper's first costume -- he DID give us the Vision and Ultron. That's points.
Englehart was an essential contributor at a critical era for the team, though he was not such a long time writer. At a time when super teams were starting to multiply, he was able to keep the Avengers going as the flagship super team. His development of the Vision was special, as was the weddin of Vision and Scarlet Witch. Didn't he
I'm tempted to vote for Jim Shooter or Roger Stern just as well though. Shooter gave us all those super powered villains and portrayed the Avengers at their greatest heights of shear power. I love his work. Roger Stern's work was incredible too. I haven't read all of Roy Thomas's work yet, but Stern's plotting was some of the best I've read in any comic. He handled all those characters with a level of care and creativity that probably surpassed Shooter's.
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Post by sharkar on Jan 8, 2007 20:26:29 GMT -5
I don't feel qualified to vote on most of these categories, either, since I don't follow these books in real time- -though I guess I vicariously follow them by reading this website! (I usually wait for the tpb, if a storyline has piqued my interest). I guess I'm just a traditionalist who concentrates on the Essentials.
But as for the Hall of Fame: I cannot believe John Buscema is not already in it! He gave the Avengers book a dynamism and strength it had previously lacked (no disrespect to Don Heck, who, as dlw said, ably shouldered the artwork before and during the transitional stage when the line-up changed--and yes, I know that Ayers did the artwork over Kirby layouts in #16, but dlw's point was that Heck was responsible for the bulk of the artwork in that transitional, Kooky Quartet/return-of- Pym era. And Heck drew a suitably smirking Hawkeye and a really beautiful Scarlet Witch, even when she was wearing that silly, bulky headpiece. I will nominate Heck next year).
But this year I have to go with Big John for the HoF. He really made the Avengers a visually exciting book and put it on the map, art-wise. All of a sudden, it could contend with the Kirby FF and the Romita Spider-Man. John and Roy made a great team.
(About #16: I always wondered why Ayers ended up doing that single, epochal, issue, anyway...guess Heck was busy with Iron Man?)
Also have to go with Englehart for the second nominee. In addition to what Bored said, Steve added humor and made the dialogue sound more individual and realistic. He was a good successor to Roy and really developed his own, distinctive voice within a year or so on the book.
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Post by johnnyzemo on Jan 9, 2007 17:08:43 GMT -5
Well, I guess the precedent has been set then. Maybe we could split the category in two--one for creators and one for fictional characters. It doesn't seem fair to have creators (who have much more power) competing against their creations. I would be tempted to argue that Mark Millar (in Civil War) has done as much damage to the Avengers this year as Bendis has. ;D
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Jan 9, 2007 17:54:48 GMT -5
Ok, now we're talking "Hall of Shame" and that's just not nice.
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Post by thew40 on Jan 9, 2007 20:57:15 GMT -5
1. BEST AVENGERS-RELATED STORY OR ARC of 2006 "Civil War." I don't mean the tie-ins. I mean just the main mini-series. It has shaken things up, brought about some great changes, and has created potential for new, big projects.
2. BEST AVENGERS-RELATED WRITER of 2006 Brian Michael Bendis. [dodges bricks] Seriously, though, I firmly believe he's done a good job this year. Not only continuing to add depth to the "Hydra/SHIELD/Hand" conspiracy arc, but also pitted the New Avengers against their first "major" villian, being Xorn/Collective.
3. BEST AVENGERS-RELATED ARTIST of 2006 Steve McNiven. Despite the controversy around the "Civil War" delays, he's made the book look and feel epic.
4. BEST ACTIVE AVENGER of 2006 Iron Man. He's become a driving force in the MU this year. Plus, if it weren't for him putting a face on super-heroes and gathering as many behind as he could, super-heroes would probably be made illegal. I personally feel that what he is doing is something he truly believes is the right thing.
5. BEST AVENGERS VILLAIN of 2006 Nitro. This guy has changed the face of the Marvel Universe. His post-Stamford conflicts with Namor and Wolverine made him all the greater villian.
6. BEST AVENGERS SUPPORTING CHARACTER of 2006 Nick Fury. Even in hiding, he's kicking ass.
7. GREATEST AVENGERS "MOMENT" of 2006 Captain America escaping the SHIELD Helicarrier.
8. BEST AVENGERS SINGLE PANEL of 2006 Sentry arrives to take on the Collective/Xorn.
9. BEST MARVEL COMICS SERIES of 2006 "Civil War," hands down.
10. THE ONE COMIC BOOK EVERYONE SHOULD BE READING IS: "Astonishing X-Men." Anyone that read "Uncanny X-Men" back in the 80s would love this book. It's very nostalgic while still bringing a lot of originality to the table.
11. AVENGERS CREATORS HALL OF FAME (You may nominate two candidates in this category.) Mark Gruenwald
[awaits beating for all the "New Avengers" and "Civil War" nominations]
~W~
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Post by thew40 on Jan 9, 2007 21:19:45 GMT -5
My nominee list is: 6. BEST AVENGERS SUPPORTING CHARACTER of 2006- Mary Jane Watson-ParkerShe has her own title, a plot-driving role in the Spider-Man newspaper strip, a role in the Spider-Man unmasking and the hype of Spider-Man 3. That's more than the Sentry did this year. Wow! I didn't even think of MJ! Great idea! BTW -- what happened in the comic strip? My local newspaper has dropped it. I read the poker story. It was quite good. Another good nomination. ~W~
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Post by Engage on Jan 9, 2007 23:47:26 GMT -5
The comic strip is now set in LA and just dealt with about a three month attack by Doctor Octopus. I have to follow it online.
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Jan 10, 2007 15:08:08 GMT -5
For me, and I think consensus is almost general ... Big John Buscema is a must-in.
The question comes down to Englehart versus Stern -- and that's something that will take me a little research to figure out. Both were so good.
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