Kazekun
New Avenger
"Galactus! I will stop your carnage, even if it costs me my life!"
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Post by Kazekun on Mar 4, 2007 22:50:47 GMT -5
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Post by Doctor Doom on Mar 5, 2007 11:33:23 GMT -5
It's old, but thanks for sharing anyway!
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Kazekun
New Avenger
"Galactus! I will stop your carnage, even if it costs me my life!"
Posts: 12
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Post by Kazekun on Mar 5, 2007 16:39:24 GMT -5
It's old, but thanks for sharing anyway! Well I didn't see a thread for it, but your welcome! |
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Post by Shiryu on Mar 7, 2007 5:46:22 GMT -5
Sorry Kazekun, could you resize the image in the signature ? it's huge  |
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Tone-Loc
Reservist Avenger
R.I.P. (... for now)
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Post by Tone-Loc on Mar 7, 2007 21:56:25 GMT -5
I picked up #1.
3.5 out of 5 stars from me. It was a decent comic in general, and an ok Avengers comic.
The thought balloons seemed forced, but it could be that the style in which they are used is just not anything that I am used to reading. It may grow on me, they have a 3-4 issues to do that.
Cho's art is hit and miss, but mostly hit. He just seems inconsistent to me, but that may just be him. I am not really familiar with his other work.
Bendis gets to work a forced line in to justify his NA lineup (namely the inclusion of Wolverine). Meh. Which brings up the whole, need people to do the things that not everyone can (or is willing) to do. Oh well, that's not what the Avenger's really are to me, and it seems at times that Carol is questioning the need for an Avenger's, etc... but ultimately she falls in line. (and so should you, readers... if the message isn't clear enough)
It's more in the vein of an Avenger's comic book, but at times it just seems a backhanded appeasement of sorts... and probably only a stop-gap to try to haul people like myself in. We'll see... but I would rather see an Avengers team that holds up certain ideals, and isn't an arm of the military... and doesn't take the easy way out of having people to do the dirty work. You know... like true super heroes should.
Overall, a good first showing... let's see where it goes from here. I am trying to keep an open mind.
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Post by The Night Phantom on Mar 7, 2007 23:20:40 GMT -5
Sorry Kazekun, could you resize the image in the signature ? it's huge That’s the way Carol’s built, man… 
Tone-Loc, you get a karma point from me. I like your review for being a review—not a polemic, not a mere synopsis, not a string of out-of-context emotional responses, but an attempt at a discussion of the material’s pros and cons. Thanks. |
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Post by redstatecap on Mar 9, 2007 11:21:49 GMT -5
I browsed the issue at the shop yesterday. All it did for me was to confirm the fact that there is no need to buy Mighty Avegners.
There was action -- I'll grant you that. However, it was entirely pointless action, not to mention that (from a CW perspective) we already have a superhero fight in downtown New York again. Guess CW didn't really change anything at all. I wonder how many people died? But I digress. Some months ago on this board, I predicted that Bendis would go out of his way to write a fight an issue in Mighty and thus call it a "classic" style. It won't matter if the fight is pointless, or well-done, or what -- he will try to write a fight an issue regardless. After reading Mighty #1, I'm convinced that I was correct. I'm also convinced that I'm not going to be missing anything by not picking up this book.
Basically the action serves no purpose other than to intersperse eye-candy amongst cuts of Iron Man and Carol choosing the new team.
It's here that one of Bendis' most annoying tendecies as a writer is on full display. Namely, his wont to write chatty, cutesy banter for page...after page...after page...after page. Carol and Iron Man's discussion, occupying around a third of the book between cutting back and forth between the gratuitous throwaway goon battle in downtown, is one long, excruciating exercise in "how to write banter the Bendis way." His fans might love it and they're welcome to, but I absolutely cannot stand it.
He also throws in some soap-opera-ish dialogue about Carol, Simon, Iron Man, & Spider-Woman, making me suspect that this is going to be a running plot point in Mighty unlike New.
As to the new roster itself -- to me it's simply more proof (as if I needed more) that Bendis does not get the Avengers. Ares was always a bizarre choice, and this book did absolutely nothing to change that. In fact it makes it look all the more foolish, as Ares' characterization is basically "idiot goon." It was terrible "reasoning" to add him to the roster, and terrible (mis)characterization of Ares. To me, this choice is as bad as Ronin over on New.
Sentry is once again only here as a character because Bendis is pushing him, and no other reason.
As to the rest -- while I certainly have no problem with them as Avengers -- Bendis did a poor job in justifying and explaining the choices. For example, Wasp is on board in part for her fashion sense.
Finally, on the art...I'm a fan of Frank Cho's work in general -- but I'm not certain that his talents are going to transfer to superhero comics at least initially. For me it's not an issue that his style is "cartoony," or even the cheesecake factor; it's more that I don't think he has gotten the hang of dynamic storytelling yet.
Mighty Avengers #1 was overall not a particularly good comic. The banter was excruciating, the roster choices highly questionable, and the action a pointless throwaway.
RSC
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Post by Doctor Doom on Mar 9, 2007 16:28:00 GMT -5
Doom's Deconstruction: Mighty Avengers Assemble! We actually see the entire team formed in one issue, a welcome change from NA. Basically, each team member gets a two-page (really half page to be fair) intro on why they were picked. Iron Man and Ms Marvel select them,k with well deserved extra time spent on Ares. There is a large, very well done fight scene, Wonder Man gets tossed around a bit- the Mole Man emerges and declares that they hvae killed his children and destroyed his home. The Avengers react in surprise- and simultaneously, ecological catastrophes strike around the world. Then Iron Man's armour freaks out and warps... and from the ruin emerges the "nude- I'm sorry, New Ultron".
The View of Doom:
There was a lot to like in this issue. The team line-up itself for starters. Ms Marvel, Iron Man, Wasp, Wonder Man- no problems at all, having FOUR out of seven members be such renowned classic Avengers is fantastic, having a fifth, Black Widow, also be a classic avenger is also great. Sentry I'm not keen on but he was handled alright, and I can live with him- I understand his usage, and much as I may have disliked them it makes sense that Bendis wants a bigger connection to the New Avengers past roster than just Iron Man. Ares was the one wild card I had, but he was handled averagely in this issue. I'm still not sold- the reasoning was okay, but I never bought that they should have had a Wolverine in the first place and I don't see how Sentry doesn't count as the "Thor." Unlike NA, it's nice to see six out of the seven were actually on the side of CW they're supposed to be made up of. (The seventh not choosing a side; Ares)
The characterization was surprisingly strong. There were three main points that annoyed me:
-Ms Marvel calling Hank "a loser of a husband". Firstly, she would never feel like this about him. Secondly, WHEN WILL THEY STOP VICTIMISING HANK? I mean Civil War makes a big step towards helping him get over the whole 2o-year-old hitting jan thing and now this almost makes it surface again.
-Wasp seemed a bit ditzier than usual: You're still with Hank, woman so don't go chasing after Sentry!
-Iron Man calling Cap "Rogers". ROGERS? ROGERS? The man is DEAD, and you are with him as he breathes his last! Doesn't improve my hopes for "the Confession", also by Bendis.
Still, these were niggling points and the fact that I mention them is mainly because there were too many bits done well to mention!
The action was better than I thought. I expected, as RSC said above, lots of pointless action but it was handled remarkably well. We only get 4 pages of action at the start- a good enough number, and those are used to both establish Iron Man, since he doesn't have an interview later, and also clear up things like the traditional Bendis team banter and the whole "keep down property damage!" kick from civil war. Oh, and establish again that Wonder Man is still growing weaker after civil war. We then get another page to bring us back to the action after a moment, making it five action pages in all so far.
Bendis keeps it from getting monotonous because the next 8 action pages, while technically action pages, are focused in twos on particular characters, showing what they add to it- and it works pretty well (Black Widow's one seems questionable) It keeps it from feeling like mindless action because it's establishing the characters and doing it through BATTLE, which is very forgivable for an issue 1 and could have been far worse. The next two action pages are Ares, then the obligatory two or three just before the conclusion. So while there's a LOT of action pages used in total, I feel it was handled very well and so did not feel like it was boring or, as RSC said, just so Bendis could prove he has action.
The Art: It's Frank Cho, and though his women are too.... well endowed... for me to be comfortable with, he's still a fantastic artist.
Doom's Decree: This Issue Shalt Be Given.... Eight and a Half Golden Dooms out of Ten.
Much happier than I thought I would be, can'tt wait for the next issue. The best bit? THIS REALLY FEELS LIKE AN AVENGERS BOOK AGAIN! WHOOO!
Words cannot describe our utter shock.
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Post by thew40 on Mar 9, 2007 21:46:28 GMT -5
I daresay this was the best Bendis Avengers comic thus far. The dialogue was great. The team-building was nicely done -- good and fast. Nice touch with the mentions of the New Avengers team and pulling up the SHIELD/HAND/HYDRA subplot that has been on-going since the beginning of Bendis' run. Mole Man was a nice first enemy, even though I'm not a big fan of "Ultron" showing up at the end (I'm a little weary of this).
Tone-Loc, I agree with Night Phantom's praise on your review. Honest and fair - well done.
~W~
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