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Post by Doctor Doom on Feb 24, 2007 17:43:12 GMT -5
Not too much, but we now have a month: Thor #1 in July by JMS and Oliver Coipel. Cover and page: Thor has always been JMS' dream project, so I have high hopes. Plus about 13 or so issues in we apparantly hit a milestone- I believe it's Thor 600? Sorry if i'm wrong on this one, my memory is hazy... and Joe Q declined to comment on that fac.t
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Post by The Night Phantom on Feb 24, 2007 18:47:23 GMT -5
Plus about 13 or so issues in we apparantly hit a milestone- I believe it's Thor 600? This is a tricky question that points up some of the silliness often applied to issue-numbering schemes where re-numbering and renaming come into play: Series | Issue #s | Qty. | Journey Into Mystery (debuted 1952)—without Thor | 1–82 | 82 | Journey Into Mystery cont’d, with Thor | 83–125 | 43 | Thor (1966–1996) | 126–502 | 377 | Journey Into Mystery (1972–1975)—non-Thor-related | 1–19 | 19 | Journey Into Mystery (1996–1998), picking up from Thor #502 | 503–521 | 19 | Journey Into Mystery (“Flashback” event) | -1 | 1 | Thor (vol. 2, 1998–2004) | 1–85 | 85 |
That comes to a grand total of 626 issues. If Marvel wishes to ignore all the JIM issues except the original 125 (only 43 of which have anything to do with Thor), then yes, the 13th issue of the new Thor could be considered #600.
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Post by Yellowjacket on Feb 28, 2007 5:17:40 GMT -5
I too hope for a good JMS run on Thor, it´s way overdue that the Asgardian get´s his own book again. I really miss his presence in MU, but I strongly hope JMS starts better than Jurgens did (I didn´t like the whole human identity "thing" Jurgens did gave Thor, plus there was JRJR... ).
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Post by Tana Nile on Feb 28, 2007 11:48:47 GMT -5
I am really hoping that Thor will be handled well. I was barely following comics when he did his disappearing act, but from what I gather, he had changed significantly. From that cover, it looks more like the old school Thor. I like the slight modification to the helmet, but those funky mail sleeves have got to go! The Thunder God needs to be showing off those huge biceps! ;D
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Post by von Bek on Feb 28, 2007 13:32:17 GMT -5
Jurgen´s and JRJR´s Thor was pretty much 'old school'. I recommend to all classic Thor fans (if I´m not mistaken Tananile asked that on another thread...) - it was nothing ground breaking but a good read. As for this new Thor, JMS is hit and miss for me, I hope he hits with the Odinson. Didn´t like the new clothes, tought.
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Post by redstatecap on Feb 28, 2007 14:08:50 GMT -5
I'm not saying that Thor's old costume could never be changed or updated, but I think the new one is not an improment at all. I think you could do well shooting for an "historic" look, i.e. take one of the Osprey Military guides to the Viking warrior (has lots of nice reconstructed drawings/speculations) and go from there. I read the New Avengers crossover issues of JMS' Amazing. I thought they were actually pretty good and a darn sight better than the New Avengers title itself. He did a fine job with Cap, IMO. But I'm still leery of JMS on any title after Sins Past.
RSC
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Post by Sentry on Mar 11, 2007 14:21:00 GMT -5
Hello!This is my first post here. And i will begin with a question,is JMS the right choice for the new Thor series?Because for example is Strange mini was really weak and is Spiderman not always truly good,i always thought that the best two for telling the God of Thunder tales were Peter David or(this is a dream i know)the return,even if only as writer of Walter Simonson,what do you think about people?
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Post by Doctor Doom on Mar 11, 2007 13:59:02 GMT -5
Welcome, The Sentry! Hope you have a great time here with the astonishing AA community! I don't think JMS is the writer ANY of us would have said as first preference but personally I think he may have what it takes. "Thor" is his dream project and moreover, the low points of his Spider-Man run have been when he tried to bring the web-slinger into some "mystical, magical" realms which many think he did not belong in. But since magic is such a key part of Thor, this might actually prove a strength of his Thor run! Plus after 3 years, ANY Thor is better than no Thor at all, right? Happy assembling!
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Post by Sentry on Mar 11, 2007 15:56:55 GMT -5
Welcome, The Sentry! Hope you have a great time here with the astonishing AA community! I don't think JMS is the writer ANY of us would have said as first preference but personally I think he may have what it takes. "Thor" is his dream project and moreover, the low points of his Spider-Man run have been when he tried to bring the web-slinger into some "mystical, magical" realms which many think he did not belong in. But since magic is such a key part of Thor, this might actually prove a strength of his Thor run! Plus after 3 years, ANY Thor is better than no Thor at all, right? Happy assembling! Thanks for the welcome Doom!You are right any Thor is better than no Thor at all,but after all this time what kind of Thor Marvel will give to the fans?I hope if there must be a real change with the past,it will be for something like the Ultimate version,please no more stories like the DeFalco and Frenz run,or the first from Jurgens,but my fear is that this is what we are going to receive from JMS run.
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Post by balok on Mar 11, 2007 20:00:15 GMT -5
JMS did excellent work on Spider-Man when he first started on the book. Morlun was one of the best new Spider-Man villains in recent memory. More recently, his work has been hit or miss. And he was a key player in a story called "The Other" which I did not like a little bit. The idea might have been okay, but the execution (with three writers across as many books) fell short of good, I fear. His early work on reimagining the Squadron Supreme was also enjoyable.
Generally, his work has been good, although I never really liked his take on the FF. I think as far as comics go, he prefers the magical types over the scientific types, which means Thor might be a good fit.
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Post by Tone-Loc on Mar 11, 2007 20:41:03 GMT -5
I don't know, other than its bulky long-johns feel, I kind of like that new look on Thor. I think it's certainly better than some others we have seen in the past.
In fact, I think that would have been a better look for Utlimate Thor. It has more of a "realism" factor, than any version of Thor... IMHO.
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Post by Doctor Doom on Mar 12, 2007 14:35:03 GMT -5
Honestly, I think JMS' work has ranged from excellent ("Coming Home", "The War At Home") to very poor, but I can only think of two examples of very poor- Sins Past and "The Other". Most of his arcs- New Avengers, Book of Exekiel etc, were on the "good" side of the equation. (In fact, his NA arc was better than arc 1 of the actual NA book!)
On the other hand, his FF run was lacklustre and mediocre at best. I would say he does best when writing the story he wants to write to explain Sins Past, but that wouldn't explain "The Other" which he really wanted to write, or "The War at Home" which, despite a conclusion which fell away, was still a brilliant arc and possibly the best civil war tie-in arc.... and yet was not his story at all.
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Post by Yellowjacket on Mar 14, 2007 8:07:20 GMT -5
On the other hand, his FF run was lacklustre and mediocre at best. I would say he does best when writing the story he wants to write to explain Sins Past, but that wouldn't explain "The Other" which he really wanted to write, or "The War at Home" which, despite a conclusion which fell away, was still a brilliant arc and possibly the best civil war tie-in arc.... and yet was not his story at all. Hmm, I don´t think we´ll ever come to an agreement about this, Doc. ;D I was already planning to drop FF when JMS took over and changed my mind...
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Post by Shiryu on Mar 15, 2007 9:34:03 GMT -5
Hmm, I'll give it a try, Coupiel art looks more of a problem that JMS writing to me, at least in the beginning. I think that JMS work on Spidey was up and down. As others here, I really didn't like Past Sins, but I enjoyed the Morlun arc, the beginning of the Shadra arc and the stories with the Avengers (despite some mistakes... Peter surprised that IM knows about his Spider Sense ? There is a thousand ways Tony could have learned about it). We'll see what comes out of it. PS: hi, Sentry ! Nice to see a fellow Italian over here
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 16, 2007 10:28:46 GMT -5
When he returns, do you thinkhe will still be his old self? Or will he have more of the personality of a senior god, like he had as he was flying off to heightened enlightenment at the end of Thor,
Will he have his eyesight back? If he has both eyes they need to explain that.
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Post by Sentry on Mar 20, 2007 15:26:39 GMT -5
Thank you Shiryu!It's really great being here. On the other hand i still think that JMS is not the right choice for Thor but i also hope that is gonna surprise me(in a positive way of course)and if this happen i will be the first to apologize to him for not placed my faith over his work.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 25, 2007 17:20:16 GMT -5
How long do you think they will wait until Thor meets his new twin brother?
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Post by Doctor Bong on Mar 25, 2007 18:23:50 GMT -5
Who do you mean...?
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 25, 2007 18:41:40 GMT -5
Thor meets Clor
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Post by Doctor Bong on Mar 25, 2007 19:23:47 GMT -5
I thought Clor was done for...
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Post by Shiryu on Mar 26, 2007 4:48:01 GMT -5
According to the Tom Breevort interview, Clor will be back (at least to some extent) in the Initiative, and it will be the same one that Hercules destroyed (no more will be built apparently).
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Post by Doctor Bong on Mar 26, 2007 5:37:52 GMT -5
How do you say "Oy!" in Asgardian...
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Mar 26, 2007 12:48:45 GMT -5
I'm liking the new Thor. He's going to wail on that Clor dude like Hulk is gonna pound on Stark.
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Mar 26, 2007 12:51:40 GMT -5
This summer will be themed "Revenge of the Marvel Spirit," Hulk and Thor are coming back, the original Captain America is coming back -- they are going to beat the holy crud out of all the anti-heroes that have been fouling the MU for the last 2 - 3 years. Then, a new day will dawn, when all comics are good. The people will rejoice. Subscriptions numbers will skyrocket. So many people will enjoy and buy comics, that Hollywood goes out of business, forcing Marvel to license its characters to a Hong Kong film company beginning in 2015.
No, really!
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Post by Tone-Loc on Mar 26, 2007 13:43:03 GMT -5
Dude, can I get a hit off of that?
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 27, 2007 16:11:49 GMT -5
Dude, can I get a hit off of that? Exalt,... that's just good funny ;D
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 27, 2007 16:13:07 GMT -5
The Hulk, Thor, and Captain America. Maybe they'll let them be the Florida superhero team. With all the other retirees.
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Mar 29, 2007 21:20:09 GMT -5
Yeah, because now that the Initiative is in business, all the crime will be under control, and there will be no need for unlicensed super-heroes.
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Post by thew40 on Mar 30, 2007 15:13:39 GMT -5
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 30, 2007 16:11:03 GMT -5
thanks for the link. I thought the person in the desert was not the clone. I sorta like the gradual buildup.
Only thing is this, doesn't thor look a little chubby in the pictures. Sort of like a highschool linebacker.
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