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Post by Black Knight on Oct 30, 2007 11:43:38 GMT -5
I did not twist your words in anyway doom. You want to claim you never said it, go ahead, don't care anymore.
As for the spiderman thing, well I am sorry that I am correct but I am. As for your expamle have you seen anything regarding the other run in spidey used, in a lot of issues. Nope didn't think so.
Again, marvel does make things more like the movies to capitalize on it. You don't want to believe that go ahead, again I don't really care.
Thank you for the pointless argurement, where you did a song and dance in every post.
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Post by balok on Oct 30, 2007 12:53:08 GMT -5
Thank you for the pointless argurement, where you did a song and dance in every post. Consider yourself exalted for this succinct appraisal.
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Post by Black Knight on Oct 30, 2007 13:31:14 GMT -5
I really don't get it, sometimes it feels like he is here just to argue. Like if we said the grass was green, he would say it was blue, just to argue with us.
I really don't care what he likes, that is his opinion and he is welcome to it, however when he tells me that Joe Q would not let bendis do whatever he wanted with Avengers and then turns and around and tells me that Brubaker(who actually is a good writer) can do whatever he wants. It just makes it hard to take him seriously. Oh well, have fun.
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Post by Doctor Doom on Nov 1, 2007 13:37:13 GMT -5
I did not twist your words in anyway doom. You want to claim you never said it, go ahead, don't care anymore. As for the spiderman thing, well I am sorry that I am correct but I am. As for your expamle have you seen anything regarding the other run in spidey used, in a lot of issues. Nope didn't think so. Again, marvel does make things more like the movies to capitalize on it. You don't want to believe that go ahead, again I don't really care. Thank you for the pointless argurement, where you did a song and dance in every post. The crux of your argument is that clearly, Marvel make absolutely massive changes to suit the movies, because five years after a movie, they made about five massive changes to a comic, one of which reflected said movie. Yeah, I think that argument pretty much destroys itself. Especially considering that you just acknowledge that organic webshooters were basically mentioned in no issues after the Other, and let's not forget that they're getting rid of them again. Perhaps if you occasionally read my words, it might be easier. All I have said is that Bendis does not control the entire Marvel universe and Brubaker DOES control what happens in his own comic, but you seem to find these vastly contradictory notions.
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Post by Black Knight on Nov 1, 2007 15:04:29 GMT -5
Doom, I am done with this arguement, I showed many times when marvel changed more then just spiderman to reflect the movies, you told me those did not count, I talked about the spiderman one, you told me that does not work. I am sorry they all work, because they are changed to make money off the movie. I really don't care what you believe anymore.
I am not going to even address the second because it is pointless, unless I go back and find where you told us that what I said you had, you will just keep denying. Thats fine to, really just don't care anymore.
So all in all, I am just done, there is no point in talk to a "right" fighter.
Later
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Post by Doctor Doom on Nov 1, 2007 17:23:51 GMT -5
Doom, I am done with this arguement, I showed many times when marvel changed more then just spiderman to reflect the movies, you told me those did not count, I talked about the spiderman one, you told me that does not work. I am sorry they all work, because they are changed to make money off the movie. I really don't care what you believe anymore. This isn't about minor, cosmetic changes because those clearly are useless. MY assertion was that they don't make major changes to reflect the movies and you have absolutely failed to come up with a single instance where they have. Doing something that was also done in the movies but is done in a way that bears no similarity to the movie whatsoever and is seperated from it by a period of 5 years most certainly does not count, especially when done along with major changes which dramatically distance the character further from the movie version. If you disagree, that's okay.
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Post by Black Knight on Nov 2, 2007 9:12:06 GMT -5
I do disagree, and that is fine. I think it would be best if we just droped it as this discussion is going nowhere. Thanks
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Post by woodside on Nov 2, 2007 22:02:41 GMT -5
Shifting this back on topic, what does everyone think about Bucky being the new Cap? I only just started reading "Captain America" during and post-"Civil War," so I'm still a little in dark about Bucky.
I certainly believe that "Captain America" is probably Marvel's best book right now, so I have a lot of faith that if anyone can pull off "Bucky-as-Cap" story, it's Ed Brubaker. He's done a great job of handling the characters.
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Post by goldenfist on Nov 5, 2007 15:52:37 GMT -5
Problem is will any of the Marvel fans accept the New Captain America.
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Post by Tone-Loc on Nov 5, 2007 17:34:04 GMT -5
Problem is will any of the Marvel fans accept the New Captain America. I will, but only if it is Bucky, and he grows into it... meaning they aren't making Bucky/Winter Soldier the new Cap just so they can get people used to the idea of a gun-toting, killer Cap, even if the killing is only minimal and nothing on the Punisher scale. Bucky will need to be on a road to redemption, and learn what it fully means to carry on in Cap's name.
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Post by Draganta on Nov 6, 2007 2:52:13 GMT -5
my thoughts on this.....
basicly, i have no problem with New Cap, as long he stays closer to the spirit of steve than ultimate Cap. its bucky, absolutely, and because of that, i'm not as pissed as i would be if it was the result of that Reality show marvel teased a month ago.
as is, i'm intrigued by the possibilities the new cap brings.
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Post by goldenfist on Nov 7, 2007 23:32:47 GMT -5
I'm sure that Joe Simon himself is still mad at Marvel for killing off Captain America, One message board I'm part of don't care about the New Captain America they don't want it to be Bucky at all.
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Post by scribbler357 on Nov 8, 2007 21:11:36 GMT -5
From Wikipedia:
Announced future film The film was first announced after the outstanding success of various Marvel Films. Both Marvel Enterprises and Paramount Pictures will finance with Paramount distributing the film. The story will center on unassuming Army officer Steve Rogers volunteering for a top secret research project that turns him into Captain America, a superhero dedicated to defending America's ideals.
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Post by Shiryu on Nov 9, 2007 10:49:40 GMT -5
Interesting news on the movie, thanks As for the new Cap, Bucky (assuming it's him) could work well in that role, at least temporarely. His resurrection is a retcon I never swallowed, but nonetheless the book is good so far and the character is growing nicely. Hoping that Steve will eventually be back (the real one, not one from a different time, a clone, cyborg, alternate version etc), the show is Bucky's to run. The costume however looks a bit, I don't know, mixed. I understand the gun and the knife, after all he can't throw the shield as Cap used to, but there is so much black in it. Is it a sign of grief?
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