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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 7, 2007 16:05:18 GMT -5
I came into comics later than some. I have never read the Korvac stroy itself, only seen it referenced several times, in other stories.
I always knew it was supposed to be one of the biggies. I've just started on it and I really am liking it. This was the first time in the title that they really built and built gradually toward a main story line, using several issues of flashes to show it coming up. Knowing how big the story was this really built up my anticipation.
I'm still in the beginning of the actual Korvac issues and I will come back and rate it when finished. There are a few things of note though.
In light of current comic events with our opinions about government interference in the CW stuff it's interesting to note that it was happening here as well.
I've always hated Gyrich, and here he is meddling with the Avengers and reallygumming up the works. At this time we were, as a country getting into the whole 'big brother is watching you' mentality and that is just what Marvel played off of. Sorta like they did with the forfeiture of freedoms in the CW.
Well, I'm gonna go back an finish this one off.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 7, 2007 16:53:14 GMT -5
I really liked almost the entire thing. Korvac's role as he saw himself is just,.. something. You get to see several literary classic themes here.
The Flawed Hero
Star Crossed Lovers
and some major butt whuppin.
The only downside for me was Moondragon, I understand her use as a plot device, I just wish she didn't have to be so darn snooty all of the time.
This one gets a 9 1/2 Loonies out of 10 (1/2 point off because of MD)
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Apr 9, 2007 9:42:59 GMT -5
My first exposure to this story was the What if story about "what if Korvac won?" That was great. I read the original issues for the frist time pretty recently, and I agree that they hold up really well. They have acquired a reputation as true classics since being published, and I was surprised to find them all to be quite inexpensive on eBay.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 9, 2007 9:47:08 GMT -5
Bored, do you remember what issue of What If that was? I have them on DVD and I'd like to look it up.
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Apr 10, 2007 10:48:13 GMT -5
I don't remember. It came out about 1980 or so.
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Apr 10, 2007 10:50:56 GMT -5
Oh, Wikipedia says it's number 32, and I had the title way wrong. It's actually what if the Avengers had become the pawns of Korvac?
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 10, 2007 16:18:45 GMT -5
thanks man, I guess I should stop being lazy and go hit Wikipedia myself when I want to know something. Exalt for you for helping.
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Post by ultron69 on May 8, 2009 7:22:11 GMT -5
I just re-read this for the first time in over 20 years. I was hoping it held up, and it did! It was beautiful. Not only an incredibly powerful adversary worthy of taking on ALL of the Avengers, but I enjoyed the fact that: 1) this was as much a love story as anything else, and 2) Korvac was NOT evil. Misguided, maybe, but not evil. This was a tainted vivtory for the Avengers.
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Post by spiderwasp on May 8, 2009 21:17:21 GMT -5
I reread all my old Avengers recently and this story holds up beautifully. Ironic that the statement comes from someone who writing doesn't even hold up through the initial reading.
My favorite part of the Korvac Saga was when Sentry took him on one on one. Oh wait, that didn't appear in the book. But surely he was there, right? I'm sorry, I just don't think I'll ever get tired of making fun of such a ridiculous conscept.
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Post by humanbelly on May 9, 2009 6:03:30 GMT -5
This arc, if anything, works better in the re-reading than it did when it was first printed. I seem to recall a number of unfortunate deadline-doom interruptions and delayed shipments throughout the storyline (checkin' at Gohn's Pharmacy every Tuesday, wondering what in the world the hold-up was!). And then, I think, there were two issues of filler-stories immediately after? So we were left with a roomfull of barely-alive Avengers for months, wondering who made it, and what the next team would be. The final cover, with Don Blake trying to bring everyone back from the brink of death, is one of my all-time favorites, I must say.
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Post by ultron69 on May 9, 2009 10:43:39 GMT -5
My favorite part of the Korvac Saga was when Sentry took him on one on one. Oh wait, that didn't appear in the book. But surely he was there, right? I'm sorry, I just don't think I'll ever get tired of making fun of such a ridiculous conscept. LOL ;D |
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Post by ultron69 on May 9, 2009 10:48:12 GMT -5
This arc, if anything, works better in the re-reading than it did when it was first printed. I seem to recall a number of unfortunate deadline-doom interruptions and delayed shipments throughout the storyline (checkin' at Gohn's Pharmacy every Tuesday, wondering what in the world the hold-up was!). And then, I think, there were two issues of filler-stories immediately after? So we were left with a roomfull of barely-alive Avengers for months, wondering who made it, and what the next team would be. The final cover, with Don Blake trying to bring everyone back from the brink of death, is one of my all-time favorites, I must say. There was a fill-in issue during the Korvac story arc, #169. It was an OK story with Cap, Black Panther, and Iron Man. Then, the issue immediately after the conclusion of the Korvac saga, #178, I can only assume was a fill-in. It was one of the worst Avengers stories I have ever read...in the non-Bendis category, anyway. It was basically a solo story starring the Beast. Now, I love the Beast. He is probably one of my two or three favorite Avengers. However, this comic was awful, from the Carmine Infantino art, to the pointless and almost nonsensical story by Steve Gerber. This was a WTF? issue if there ever was one. |
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