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Post by iastagehand on May 15, 2007 15:01:47 GMT -5
Is this for real? or another cruel joke!?! I checked out the Diamond list of what's out tomorrow and low and behold, #13 is on the list. I won't hold my breath but it would be cool!
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Post by Engage on May 15, 2007 15:23:30 GMT -5
I might have bought this when I could still remember what was happening, but I won't spend money on this now. The wait really drained away my interest in the Ultimates.
All the same, I'm sure it'll be a solid read with crazy good art.
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Post by Alchemist-X on May 15, 2007 18:37:28 GMT -5
I wish there was a way I could buy this but still express how angry I am that its so late
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Post by Tana Nile on May 17, 2007 10:24:15 GMT -5
Got it, read it...and it was OK. I don't know how much effect the long delay has on my feelings but I thought it was OK, not spectacular. Let me say I did re-read all the previous issues this week, just so I could remember all the plot details. This issue seems to wrap things up pretty nicely, but wasn't quite as satisfying as I would like. I think perhaps it's just that the whole series was sort of on overdrive, and after issue 12, there was no place higher to go.
What I found sadly ironic was that {SPOILER} the Ultimates have decided to go independent and disconnect themselves from the military and government. They realize their power is too much for any single government to control, and should instead be devoted to protecting the entire world. So while the hyper-realistic Ultimates free themselves of government control, our regular universe heroes sign up to be a super-military.
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Post by Doctor Doom on May 17, 2007 10:32:14 GMT -5
In my humble view, "Grand Theft America" is one of the best comic stories in over a decade. Loved the conclusion, LOTS OF payoff.
Particularly loved Mark Millar going out of his way to disprove Balok's theory that half the reason for civil war was for the 616 to be ultimised since that sold more. If that was true, why 616-inise the ULtimates? Could it possibly be that story comes first?
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Post by imperiusrex on May 17, 2007 13:51:27 GMT -5
In my humble view, "Grand Theft America" is one of the best comic stories in over a decade. Loved the conclusion, LOTS OF payoff. Particularly loved Mark Millar going out of his way to disprove Balok's theory that half the reason for civil war was for the 616 to be ultimised since that sold more. If that was true, why 616-inise the ULtimates? Could it possibly be that story comes first? Kind of a simplistic way to look at it. I'd say the Ultimization has far more to do with attitude than one storyline-- it's more the way the gov't interacts with heroes; how they've got a much more antagonistic relationship, and the conspiracies and human casualties, etc. 616 just feels like a place where everyone is on edge and in danger and not trusting each other. and that's what I get from the Ultimates which is why I've never been a fan. Plus isn't Loeb coming on and doesn't he do far less of this sort of thing? In fact this discussion on popcultureshock pretty much says as much popcultureshock.com/pcs/forums/t10397-ultimates-vol-3-will-it-live-up-to-expectations.htmlBut in any case, if it were just about superheroes and the gov't being too heavy, heck I wouldn't have been able to read books like THUNDER Agents years ago. No, it has more to do with the atmosphere the writer creates and attitude the writer brings. |
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Post by dlw66 on May 20, 2007 17:34:19 GMT -5
I read this a couple of days ago and found it a fitting end to 25 issues of good storytelling and fantastic art. Hitch cut loose in this finale, and the gatefold was a nice touch -- made me feel somewhat like a bone to those of us who waited so long, but a nice add-in nonetheless. Despite the long intervals between issues, I am sad to see these creators leave this book. I know we've discussed whether or not these are the Avengers, an abomination, or just a "guilty pleasure" (as Van once posited) -- I have personally gained much more satisfaction from this than from anything else under the name "Avengers" put out in the past four years.
So, thanks to Mark and Brian -- it was a lot of fun!
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Post by Alchemist-X on May 20, 2007 18:22:47 GMT -5
That gatefold was something wasn't it, I kinda wanna get another issue just to take it out and put it up somewhere.
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Post by dlw66 on May 20, 2007 20:23:42 GMT -5
It would make a welcome poster, should Marvel choose to market it in a larger format. The covers to issues #12 and #13 were stunning as well!
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Post by bobc on Jun 5, 2007 13:49:56 GMT -5
Amazingly great comic!!! the Rainbow Bridge forming throughout DC was just breath-taking!! Mark Millar is GOD
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Post by dlw66 on Jun 5, 2007 13:54:03 GMT -5
STOP THE PRESSES!!!!
The Prodigal has returned!!!!!!!!
Where've you been, Bob??
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Post by bobc on Jun 5, 2007 15:19:32 GMT -5
I took a break!
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Post by dlw66 on Jun 5, 2007 15:22:03 GMT -5
I'll say you took a break. Well, glad to have you back. You have some catching up to do!
And, yes, Ultimates was a great series under Millar and Hitch. I am not overly optimistic about the third installment, though.
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Post by bobc on Jun 5, 2007 15:23:41 GMT -5
Not really sure where to post this, but there is a series of Youtube videos called "Avengers Behind the Scenes" with lots of interviews with Perez, Busiek, ect and other creators:
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Post by bobc on Jun 5, 2007 15:36:46 GMT -5
Hi Dl--yeah I have no interest in a post Millar "Ultimates."
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Post by Alchemist-X on Jun 6, 2007 23:12:43 GMT -5
post miller and post hitch, the whole creative teams scrapped. It'll be a different book Ultimates 3 that much is certain.
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