Ultron
Reservist Avenger
"Die, Humans!"
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Post by Ultron on Aug 6, 2006 19:02:06 GMT -5
Oh lord, this has just taken an awful turn...  |
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Post by dlw66 on Aug 6, 2006 20:00:52 GMT -5
From the limited pictures I've seen, it looks way too cartoony. Isn't that a Liefeld character in the left background?  ? And why is Venom here, and why does the Panther have brass knuckles, and why..... Man, I feel like we're over on the NA threads!! |
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Post by Yellowjacket on Aug 7, 2006 8:48:20 GMT -5
Don´t like it, it has written Manga all over it.
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Post by bobc on Aug 7, 2006 16:01:26 GMT -5
horrible, just horrible.
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Post by dlw66 on Aug 7, 2006 16:07:19 GMT -5
Bob -- you gotta hate your Panther looking like that!! Check out the soles of his boots! Hardly the T'Challa we knew as the stealth Avenger...
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Post by bobc on Aug 7, 2006 17:04:26 GMT -5
Ever have a day when it seems like the whole world is conspiring to get on your nerves?
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Post by bobc on Aug 7, 2006 17:07:11 GMT -5
I'm going back to bed and starting today over. I just can't take anymore.
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Post by dlw66 on Aug 7, 2006 17:21:33 GMT -5
Concerning perspective, a la the "Image years"...
I would assume that our Gene Simmons-tongued pal Venom is recoiling from the Wasp's sting (not sure if a woman who I would guess to be around her early 30's should dress with pants like that...), yet that would mean T'Challa is leaping away from him. If, on the other hand, we are to assume that BP has just smacked Venom, the angles are all wrong!!
Yuck.
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Post by dlw66 on Aug 7, 2006 17:22:10 GMT -5
Ultron, you sure this isn't from Marvel Adventures The Avengers or something...?
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Post by bobc on Aug 7, 2006 17:27:10 GMT -5
kill me now.
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Post by bobc on Aug 7, 2006 17:27:47 GMT -5
this illustration needs more shiny highlights--there just aren't enough
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Ultron
Reservist Avenger
"Die, Humans!"
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Post by Ultron on Aug 8, 2006 4:23:30 GMT -5
Ultron, you sure this isn't from Marvel Adventures The Avengers or something...? It was displayed at WW: Chicago's Ultimate 'panel'. |
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Post by dlw66 on Aug 8, 2006 8:18:29 GMT -5
Looks more like some type of airbrush than painting. Ugly nonetheless!
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Post by bobc on Aug 8, 2006 8:43:21 GMT -5
Is the Unibomber still in prison?
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Post by Black Knight on Aug 8, 2006 9:31:00 GMT -5
Ok, first this is not manga, you want to see manga go read the New Warriors limited or the Human Torch series from a few years ago.
Second, this is the ultimates, it is not supposed to be the 616 Panther, so that arguement is pointless.
Now that said, what the heck is up with the shoes on Panther and the wasp and I can only assume hawkeye look rather stupid.
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Post by bobc on Aug 8, 2006 10:10:37 GMT -5
Whatever it is, it's bad. We can just leave this unexplained...
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Post by Engage on Aug 8, 2006 13:24:57 GMT -5
Are we sure that its a preview of what characters will look like in Ultimates 3 and not just a preview of what the digital paint over the pencils will look like?
All the same, I'm going by the "can't judge a book by its cover" approach. I figure that if the writing is good, the art always seems to follow.
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Post by Yellowjacket on Aug 10, 2006 3:55:01 GMT -5
Ok, first this is not manga, you want to see manga go read the New Warriors limited or the Human Torch series from a few years ago. Right, but it´s got Manga elements in it. (For me) Much too much Manga elements. Btw, have you guys seen the previews from the next UFF arc? For sure hard times for fans of "classical" art. |
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Post by bobc on Aug 10, 2006 9:01:14 GMT -5
oh god--NOW WHAT?
Post a link. I have a feeling I'll be sorry I asked.
This is like ethnic cleansing of Marvel fans.
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Post by dlw66 on Aug 10, 2006 14:59:51 GMT -5
bobc, I am laughing out loud!!
Do you remember in the 90's with all of the X-zombies running around buying up all of the X-books, etc. thinking it was just the greatest? I guess Joe Q thinks he has that kind of a following now.
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Post by bobc on Aug 10, 2006 17:52:13 GMT -5
unfortunately yes.
Like an idiot I went to the comic store today. I looked at rows and rows of comics and nothing looked worth buying. All these names I didn't recognize or care about, medicore art, fifteen dull versions of the same books, ect. You open up a book, look through the pages and there are few if any battles.
I looked at the Black Panther comic and it is just issue after dull issue of romance between him and Storm. Who buy scomics for that? Now they're getting married? Who cares? In the good old days, characters only got married as an excuse to have every single villain currently living attack them! You bought those issues to see that! You expected it! You can bet the marriage of T'Challa and Storm will land with a big, dull thud.
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Ultron
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"Die, Humans!"
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Post by Ultron on Aug 10, 2006 20:44:35 GMT -5
bobc, I am laughing out loud!! Joe Q is the Milosevic of the comics industry!! Do you remember in the 90's with all of the X-zombies running around buying up all of the X-books, etc. thinking it was just the greatest? I guess Joe Q thinks he has that kind of a following now. I always felt that the way noob comic fans tends to foam around BENDIS! like little colegials was very similar to how guys named Timmy, 14 years old, in the 90's, orgasmed at the sight of the new cool Rob Liefeld 'masterpiece'; at every non-drawn foot, every pouch, and every gun with the size of Star Jones' ass. |
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Post by Yellowjacket on Aug 14, 2006 15:18:33 GMT -5
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Ultron
Reservist Avenger
"Die, Humans!"
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Post by Ultron on Aug 15, 2006 17:12:57 GMT -5
Is that Ultimate Fantastic Four or Ultimate Playdoh?
Who are they marketing that book for? Teletubbies viewership...?
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Post by thew40 on Dec 17, 2006 10:10:41 GMT -5
bobc, I am laughing out loud!! Joe Q is the Milosevic of the comics industry!! I think that's going a little too far. While the X-Books in the 90's did have some weak stories, they also had some really good ones. I'm more than certain Avengers had some crappy stories back in the 80's. (http://uncannyxperiment.blogspot.com/ - plug) ------- That is one terrible piece of Joe Mad art. I have faith that this isn't the quality of his work on "Ultimates 3." Check out his "Uncanny X-Men" run to see some of his best stuff - esspecially issues 323-325, 341-350, and Astonishing X-Men (volume 1) # 1-4 for the best of the best. His style is very much a sort of a American/Manga mix. It's been nearly ten years since he's done a mainstream book, but it doesn't seem like his style has changed much. ~W~ |
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Post by dlw66 on Dec 17, 2006 20:13:54 GMT -5
W, you hit the nail right on the head in terms of crappy Avengers stories (and art, as well) in the 80's. Took until the latter half of the decade to get some consistently good stuff going.
And in deference to your protest, I've removed the inappropriate comment from my earlier post -- if you would, you can do likewise from your quote of me. Thanks!
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Post by daned on Mar 5, 2007 1:40:01 GMT -5
Maybe it's just that I've been so disappointed with the art on NA, but...<deep breath> I didn't think it was that bad.
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Post by Sentry on Apr 6, 2007 14:22:23 GMT -5
It's such a big step from Hitch art,never liked this guy work,at last i hope the stunning level of the story doesn't change.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 6, 2007 20:21:20 GMT -5
Why are Wasps pants falling down?
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Post by goldenfist on Jul 25, 2007 21:09:19 GMT -5
Jeph Loeb and Joe Madureira will work on Ultimates 3 while Loeb works with Ed McGuinness on Ultimates 4. The new Ultimates team is Captain America, Spider-Man, Wolverine, Giant Man, Black Panther, Valkryie, Wasp,Thor, Iron Man, Quicksilver and either Hawkeye or Deathlok. Here's the link to check out the cover for Ultimates 3 #1 media.comics.ign.com/media/740/740876/img_4737278.htmlAnother cover of #1 will have some villains. I think it's gonna be cool some fans on other message boards love it already it won't come until the end of 2007. |
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? And why is Venom here, and why does the Panther have brass knuckles, and why.....
