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Post by Tana Nile on Nov 18, 2006 17:32:52 GMT -5
This from Newsarama's Joe Fridays feature: RQ: “ChrisG” - Just wanted to know if there's any update on Young Avengers. Have they even started and how are things coming along because there was no February solits. Any news on that? "JQ: Jim Cheung is busy drawing the New Avengers Illuminati limited series (here are some pages), and Allan Heinberg is enmeshed in all things Grey’s Anatomy, so at this point there is no set timeframe for Young Avengers to return. " Well this just stinks. I had come to view this series as the "real" Avengers book -much closer in tone and spirit to our beloved Avengers than anything in print right now. While I give most of the credit to Heinberg, couldn't they find someone who could continue the book as he had left it ? And before anyone says anything, no, not Bendis! It must be nice for Marvel to be able to put books on hold indefinitely (anyone seen Ultimate Hulk vs Wolverine lately?). I'm really beginning to wonder why I am spending any money on Marvel any more, seeing as how I tend to feel disappointed by them more often than not.  |
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Post by Tana Nile on Nov 20, 2006 16:09:05 GMT -5
Wow, am I the only one who actually cares about this book?
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Post by The Night Phantom on Nov 20, 2006 16:59:54 GMT -5
No.
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Post by Doctor Bong on Nov 20, 2006 17:16:48 GMT -5
I remember Van Plexico singing it's praises very highly, but I gather he must be living a rather busy life these days...
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Post by Doctor Bong on Nov 20, 2006 19:55:53 GMT -5
Now me, while I read it, I liked it a lot,too, that is, until they started filling their ranks with alternate, teen-aged versions of already established heroes... Story-wise, I must admit, it was always a fun, interesting book to read.
But I admit as well that I have very selfish, ideological reasons for which I'd rather not see it back anytime soon, and for that I apologize to it's true fans like tananile, the NIGHT Phantom (oops...!), et al... You see, I figure if they don't come back anytime soon, I'm hoping (ahhh, that eternal spring...!) that MAYBE, just maybe, the one true Vision has a chance of coming back...
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Post by von Bek on Nov 21, 2006 8:02:59 GMT -5
I´m no YA fan, but it pi--es me off that those writers from other medias just stop writing a book because they have more 'important' things to do and Marvel don´t even hire real comic book writers to continue the series. And sorry Heinberg fans, but I can think of at least three or four writers that would do a good if not better job than him writing YA.
And yes ua2, let´s hope the real vision shows up soon!
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Post by uberwolf on Nov 21, 2006 8:42:16 GMT -5
I read the first 8 issues of YA not long ago and it was pretty good. However, as I stated before, Marvel is not getting any of my money at this point, so I get comics where I can to read. It's a shame they kill the good books then try and force their crap on everyone.
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Post by Doctor Doom on Nov 21, 2006 12:07:17 GMT -5
Now me, while I read it, I liked it a lot,too, that is, until they started filling their ranks with alternate, teen-aged versions of already established heroes... Correct me if I'm qwrong, but wasn't the whole original premise for YA showing Wiccan/Asgardian, Patriot, Hulkling and Iron Lad in the shadow of the Avengers they were based off? But I fully agree that the longer it remains in limbo, the more hope there is for the real Vision. I missed hm the most after Disassembled and so few others seemed to care... |
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Post by Doctor Bong on Nov 21, 2006 14:06:39 GMT -5
Yes, Doom, the whole premise was to have Iron Lad, Patriot, Hulkling & Asgardian as the Young Avengers, true, and I should have stated my objections more clearly, which were (and are) that AFTER those one could hope that any new Young Avengers would be at least somewhat more original... but if the whole membership is going to consist of rehashed, younger versions of former Avengers, I dunno... I guess that just doesn't do it for me, even aknowledging Heiberg's gifts as a writer. I think he wrote a good, solid, interesting book, but even a talented writer such as him could not make these new characters, in the short time he has handled them so far, as deep, rich or significant as are the original Hawkeye, the original (Silver Age) Vision, the Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver or even the 2nd Ant-Man so, from that perspective, as a fan of those characters, I fail to see the advantages of the substitution which took place.
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Post by Tana Nile on Nov 22, 2006 10:29:30 GMT -5
To address a couple of comments:
I agree wholeheartedly with Vonbek re: the current trend of using TV or movie writers and essentially giving them carte blanche. It's happening with Heinberg now, and it has happened with others. In general, it seems like comics companies (but Marvel especially) are very cavalier towards deadlines and actually getting a book out on time. I remember in the 70's, we were often victimized by the "dreaded deadline doom" and you'd get a reprint or a file story instead of a new story. But in some ways that seems preferable to just waiting months for a new issue to come out.
As far as the new Vision vs. the old Vision goes, I too have been very sad that our beloved Vizh was destroyed in A:D, and none of his friend seemed to care enough to try to revive him. That is so out of character for them. However, I think there may be a win-win situation here. The new Vision's body is really Iron Lad's armor, and mentally he does not have old Vizh's brain patterns or memories. So they really are 2 different people. Perhaps someone will finally revive Vizh, and the new Vision could either start calling himself Iron lad or he could become a sort of protege/son to the original. It's just outrageous to me to think that the original is sitting in a crate collecting dust.
I still feel that Young Avengers had a great run. I was prepared to hate it when I first heard about it - Hulkling?? - but the characters and stories were really interesting and fun. It was sort of like Avengers meets Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans. I really hope they don't let this series wither away.
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Post by von Bek on Nov 22, 2006 11:56:07 GMT -5
IIRC Iron Lad kinda downloaded the old Vision's memories into the systems of his armor, so this new Vision is somehow a fusion of the real one and young Kang brainpatterns (Kang was a sweet little boy who was bullied because he played with dolls - ugh! How can you guys - and gal - like this stuff? But I digress...). Young Vision almost remembered that he was Thomas and Billy's father - showing that at least to a degree he is the old one, so it's unlikely we get the real one back while the teenager android is around.
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Post by Tana Nile on Nov 22, 2006 16:39:48 GMT -5
IIRC Iron Lad kinda downloaded the old Vision's memories into the systems of his armor, so this new Vision is somehow a fusion of the real one and young Kang brainpatterns (Kang was a sweet little boy who was bullied because he played with dolls - ugh! How can you guys - and gal - like this stuff? But I digress...). Young Vision almost remembered that he was Thomas and Billy's father - showing that at least to a degree he is the old one, so it's unlikely we get the real one back while the teenager android is around. I should have said new Vision does not have original Vision's brain patterns or personality; I believe it was stated he has memories but he has no emotional connection to them. I still think they could easily have both characters around, but we'll see. No one at Marvel (OK, no one writing Avengers) seems to have any respect for the history of these characters, which is another thing that really really bothers me. |
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Post by Doctor Bong on Nov 22, 2006 20:10:57 GMT -5
Yes, I don't see why they could coexist, just as the New Vision doesn't get to keep the name.
Perhaps he could call himself "The Apparition", or something like that...
I can even en-vision (pun intended, if not achieved) the synthezoid coming back to life only to be miffed to have a "younger" version of himself sharing his memories,and then Wonder Man reminding him of how he used to feel similarly about the Vision.
I would hope, as well, that the Hawkeye girl wouldn't get to keep the name either after Clint's return, but I have the nagging suspicion that they're planning to bring back his Goliath identity back, so that the girl can keep being Hawkeye... I hope I'm wrong... I always preferred Clint as the archer master of the trick arrows plus, there's the fact that whomever borrows a discarded identity of Hank Pym never seems to live long enough to regret it...
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Post by The Night Phantom on Nov 27, 2006 21:36:20 GMT -5
Kang was a sweet little boy who was bullied because he played with dolls - ugh! How can you guys - and gal - like this stuff? Stop yelling at us, and leave us with our action figures in peace! |
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Post by Shiryu on Nov 29, 2006 3:15:33 GMT -5
As someone who has never read an issue of YA, I'm not too touched my the turns of the events, but it is annoying to have a book stopped for unknown time only because the writer is busy doing something else. It shows lack of respect towards the fans (who are the same one who indirectly pay that writer by buying YA). They could have asked someone else to write the book until his return.
This being said, and having not read the book, characters like Hawkeye girl and the "new" Vision in Iron Lad's armor remind me of those times in Hercules and Lois & Clark tv series when a character (Iolaus and Clark respectively) had to go for a while and was replaced by an alternate version from another dimension so that fans would not miss him. Needless to say, the alternate versions were never to be seen again after the originals came back.
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Post by steed on Dec 19, 2006 14:45:11 GMT -5
Lee Weeks showwed me some pages of a Winter Soldier book he's drawwing and The Young Avengers are in it. I'd like to see another regular series.
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Post by Kazekun on Mar 4, 2007 2:18:06 GMT -5
From the 2007 New York Comic-Con:
When will Young Avengers be coming back as an ongoing? Quesada: We’re finding the right time, and there will be an announcement coming.
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Post by thew40 on Mar 4, 2007 14:29:46 GMT -5
Jeph Loeb is writing a YA one-shot for "World War Hulk."
~W~
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 14, 2007 9:52:45 GMT -5
I hope they don't wait too long. I enjoyed it for the same reason others have stated. It was very tru to the original. Also they had some pretty decent plot lines laid out for future events.
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Post by The Night Phantom on Mar 17, 2007 18:14:54 GMT -5
According to Newsarama, Jeph Loeb has said at Wizardworld LA that the Young Avengers will be appearing in Fallen Son. Sorry, no further details.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Mar 17, 2007 18:23:17 GMT -5
I hope they don't decide to only tro the YA out for special series. You know a mini-series there, a one shot here. It is a good premise that would add some depth to the MU. As long as they kept rotating member up and out as the series progressed.
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Post by The Night Phantom on Apr 20, 2007 20:49:41 GMT -5
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 20, 2007 20:54:32 GMT -5
at least in the language of the reply they are planning on bringin them back. Something to look forward to.
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Post by goldenfist on Aug 25, 2007 12:39:47 GMT -5
The Young Avengers are going to battle a Young version of the
Masters of Evil in the next series.
Tom Brevoort said that New material is forthcoming, but probably not until 2008.
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Post by The Night Phantom on Nov 7, 2007 6:45:46 GMT -5
With the Hollywood writers’ strike on, perhaps Heinberg will finally get around to turning in some Young Avengers scripts…
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Post by Nutcase65 on Nov 7, 2007 17:41:48 GMT -5
we can only hope
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Post by goldenfist on Dec 7, 2007 16:19:42 GMT -5
Keep your fingers crossed for the next Young Avengers project.
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