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Post by Adrian J Watts on Nov 7, 2005 7:08:33 GMT -5
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Post by Van Plexico on Nov 7, 2005 17:06:27 GMT -5
Adrian-- I quite liked the review; it made me reconsider some of my own assumptions from having read that issue, a couple of weeks back. I do agree that not enough happened, for one issue, and that a lot of what did happen was not good. I suppose it is merely the quality level of NEW AVENGERS as sort of the alternative, that made it look so much better to me at the time.
That said, I'm not sure I agree about the Avengers intruding in the lives of non-villains. The point here is that they're all minors. I think precedence was established-- with Rage, right?-- that the Avengers are more than happy to intrude in the lives of minors, and even kick them off the team for no other reason than their age. Correct me if I'm wrong. Again, otherwise, good stuff.
--Van
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Post by Adrian J. Watts on Nov 7, 2005 17:30:48 GMT -5
Having re-read my review, I have a clarification to make - I actually quite enjoy Young Avengers. It was only this issue, and one scene in #7, that I haven't liked. (Oh, and the whole 'even-Kang-seems-not-to-understand-Marvel-time' thing from #1-6.) As far as the Avengers not intruding in the lives of non-villains... IIRC Rage was able to enter an 'isolation booth' of sorts to check out his identity, correct? And when Cap and the Falcon DID track him down, it was RAGE they tracked, NOT Elvin (Eldon?) Holliday (or is it Halliday? I don't care for Rage). When they did learn his true identity and age, they didn't immediately go all psycho about it - they calmly approached him and booted him down to reserve/trainee status. With the YA, they've REVEALED THE KIDS IDENTITIES TO OTHERS. I don't think the Rage thing is even close to a precedent for that. And again, with Rage, they allowed him to stay on as a trainee - they've flat-out refused to do the same with the YA. I think it comes down to what you feel the Avengers' motivation was in each situation. With Rage, I felt that they were just trying to protect him and, eventually, turn him into the best hero he can be. With the YA, I feel that the Avengers are just out to get them and their motivation in telling the parents was not to PROTECT them, but to PUNISH them. Look back to #7 - when Cap decided to contact the parents, the whole scene seemed to have an air of 'I told them to stop, but they won't. I can't spank them, so I'm gonna make them suffer. Mwaahaahaa! Zemo's got nothin' on me!' Yeah.  AND GIVE KATE A CODENAME ALREADY, DAMMIT. - Adrian |
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Post by Spider-Man on Dec 2, 2005 0:10:35 GMT -5
the link to the review isn't workin for me so I'll just comment on the stuff discuissed here. I think that it was kinda like Cap wants to punish them a lil for not listening (also feel with some stuff Cap's been through lately (The Avengers disassembled thing and the return of Bucky)). Also, I liked how Spidey and Luke were for the YA. Makes sense.
Also, apparently Kate does have a codename. I think it was in Wizard that they listed members and I believe they called Kate Mockingbird....or it was something similiar to Mockingbird.....she just hasn't been called that in the actually title...lol
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Post by Adrian J. Watts on Dec 2, 2005 19:35:07 GMT -5
You're not thinking of 'Hawkingbird', are you?  - Adrian |
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Post by Spider-Man on Dec 2, 2005 20:48:17 GMT -5
it might be Hawkingbird....can't quite remember
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