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Post by Marvel Boy on Jul 7, 2016 19:34:52 GMT -5
Marvel's latest event, Civil War II will apparently have a long-term effect on the MU and the Avengers (all of them) aren't exempt from the consequences. For those not reading the event, it pertains to Ulysses, a new Inhuman who has the ability of precognition. His visions of future crimes, attacks and such lead to a moral division between our heroes over how best to handle these prophetic sights, especially after one of their own is killed by apparent inaction from not preventing one of his visions. This new division will be the genesis of a new initiative of titles ala Marvel NOW! To start with, we have: The US Avengers, apparently spinning out of the current New Avengers title. Members consist of Sunspot, Cannonball, Squirrel Girl, Red Hulk, Pod, a new Iron Patriot and Luke and Jessica Cage's daughter, Danielle who is a Captain America from the future. US AvengersNo, you're not seeing things. We're getting a brand-new Great Lakes Avengers title featuring such classic members as Flatman and Mr. Immortal. Indications would suggest this title will be more light-hearted and possibly a comedic title. Great Lakes AvengersAn old team gets new members when the Champions are reborn. Kamala, Sam, and Miles quit the Avengers, forming their own group along with Teen Cyclops, Amadeus Cho Hulk, and Vizz, the Vision's 'daughter' from his current title. It remains to be seen what this may mean for the current ANAD Avengers title. ChampionsAlso of note, a new character, Riri Williams (whose made her first appearance in the Invincible Iron Man title) will take over being Iron Man. What this means for Tony Stark is also unclear at this point.
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Post by starfoxxx on Jul 10, 2016 16:35:54 GMT -5
Thanks for the update, Marvel Boy. Since my LCS close, I haven't been able to get copies of Marvel Previews regularly, so I'm not up to date with Marvel's output.
Well, that Divided we Stand banner looks pretty cool, as does the Champions and GLA covers. That being said, I have no interest in any of these stories. The GLA was always a favorite spin-off group of mine, but I feel like they've been the wacky well that Marvel has gone to one time too many, already. I love that West Coast Avengers font, though.
U.S.Avengers looks horrible.
And let me know when Marvel decides to kill off Squirrel-Girl. I'll buy that issue.
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Post by spiderwasp on Jul 10, 2016 19:37:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the update, Marvel Boy. Since my LCS close, I haven't been able to get copies of Marvel Previews regularly, so I'm not up to date with Marvel's output. Well, that Divided we Stand banner looks pretty cool, as does the Champions and GLA covers. That being said, I have no interest in any of these stories. The GLA was always a favorite spin-off group of mine, but I feel like they've been the wacky well that Marvel has gone to one time too many, already. I love that West Coast Avengers font, though. U.S.Avengers looks horrible. And let me know when Marvel decides to kill off Squirrel-Girl. I'll buy that issue. The U.S.Avengers does look horrible. I may buy the GLA title though. I have always liked them. I was even okay with Squirrel Girl when she was being treated as the ridiculous character that she is. Even the issue where she defeated Dr. Doom and everyone else was obviously presented in jest. I didn't care for it but I also didn't take it seriously. Then, suddenly, people did. Now people seriously talk about how she can defeat anyone. As a joke, I seriously liked her. As a serious hero, she's a joke. She needs to go away.
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Post by Marvel Boy on Jul 14, 2016 17:30:00 GMT -5
Further updates - Some of Marvel's NOW titles were leaked online recently so they went ahead and confirmed these via their Previews catalog. Avengers #1 - Waid continues on the current main title. Vision, Lady Thor, SamCap, the new Wasp, Hercules (armed) and I'm unsure of who the other (new?) character is. (Also the new Wasp is getting her own title, the Unstoppable Wasp) Occupy Avengers So far, little is known about the focus or intent of this title other than Clint Barton seems to be one of, if not the primary, character(s) of it. It's noteworthy that over in his own solo title, Kate Bishop takes over as Hawkeye. (Of course, Clint's recent actions in Civil War II influence his appearance here but more on that in a moment). Uncanny Avengers will apparently carry on as normal. On the solo side, Captain Marvel is getting a restart, Unworthy Thor will focus on Thor Odinson and apparently, Riri will have competition for the mantle of Iron Man as the newly reborn Victor Von Doom steps up to 'succeed where Stark failed' as he will star in Infamous Iron Man. Myself, I'm intrigued by the new Spider-Man title, Renew Your Vows in which Peter & MJ are back together, this title being written By Gerry Conway. As for what Clint has been doing, be forewarned for SPOILERS BELOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! The first death incurred in Civil War II was Rhodey, War Machine. Next, the Inhuman prophet Ulysses had a vision of the Hulk on a rampage, apparently killing several heroes/Avengers. The question is, was that Banner or the new current Hulk, Amadeus Cho? Both sides set out to track down Banner, who has been sequestered in a lab, apparently having been cured of being the Hulk by Cho some months ago. He is still running tests and experiments to make sure the Hulk is gone but becomes agitated when confronted over these accusations of something that hasn't even happened yet. Tensions mount and just when it seems that Banner may indeed hulk out, he is killed, shot between the eyes by an arrow fired by Clint! He defends his actions by saying that he had an arrangement with Banner to do just this if it ever appeared that the Hulk would arise again. He even produces a video account of Banner's wishes in this regard. Still, Clint is held over for trial by Tony and the others for this murder while Tony begins to realize the true nature of Ulysses' power.
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Post by spiderwasp on Jul 15, 2016 2:15:44 GMT -5
Further updates - Some of Marvel's NOW titles were leaked online recently so they went ahead and confirmed these via their Previews catalog. Avengers #1 - Waid continues on the current main title. Vision, Lady Thor, SamCap, the new Wasp, Hercules (armed) and I'm unsure of who the other (new?) character is. (Also the new Wasp is getting her own title, the Unstoppable Wasp) This really annoys me. In her 50 year history and tons of great character development, Janet Van Dyne has never been given so much as a limited series. Finally, the do an "Ant-man and the Wasp" LS but it is with Hank as the Wasp. Now, the Wasp finally gets her own book but it still isn't Janet. Meanwhile, the movie (Which I do look forward to because the first one was surprisingly excellent) features Hope Pym getting read to become the Wasp. Where's the love for the real thing?
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Post by bobc on Jul 17, 2016 13:57:34 GMT -5
Does anybody know what happened to the real Wasp? I can recall she was shrunk down to a sub atomic level at some point and everyone thought she was dead, but I could swear she came back. I'm lost. I know who this new Wasp is, however.
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Post by Marvel Boy on Jul 19, 2016 9:03:07 GMT -5
From what I've seen so far, Janet is alive and well, apparently still superheroing. Jarvis took the new Wasp, Nadia, to meet her stepmother for the first time in ANAD Avengers #10. Janet was leaving on an emergency call and took Nadia with her. So maybe Janet will become some form of mentor to her?
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Post by bobc on Jul 19, 2016 17:08:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the update. I know you're just guessing, but why would Janet just stop being the Wasp? She always loved being an Avenger even when Hank didn't. Do you think Janet is going to retire or something?
Now that I think about it, the answer might be pretty mundane. The movie Antman and The Wasp is being made so maybe Marvel felt there was too much baggage from the Hank Pym years to be explained in a movie--so they are setting up a new Wasp who is connected to Scott Lang. While I agree that makes sense from a practicality standpoint, I am a big fan of Janet. Talk about a character that totally bloomed since her beginning when she was basically hostage bait.
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Post by humanbelly on Jul 30, 2016 14:46:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the update. I know you're just guessing, but why would Janet just stop being the Wasp? She always loved being an Avenger even when Hank didn't. Do you think Janet is going to retire or something? Now that I think about it, the answer might be pretty mundane. The movie Antman and The Wasp is being made so maybe Marvel felt there was too much baggage from the Hank Pym years to be explained in a movie--so they are setting up a new Wasp who is connected to Scott Lang. While I agree that makes sense from a practicality standpoint, I am a big fan of Janet. Talk about a character that totally bloomed since her beginning when she was basically hostage bait. You know, since Jan does indeed exist in the Cinematic U, I would LOVE to see the studio cast a vital, middle-aged (or older, since Michael Douglas is over 70 himself) actress that is believably old enough to have an accomplished adult daughter. My first thought would be Holly Hunt. Exactly the right look and on-screen energy, very petite, and at 58 is just old enough to make the chronology work. In fact--- I'm not sure anyone else comes readily to mind! Boy, and that would be yet ANOTHER Oscar-winner in Disney/Marvel's stable-- hoo-boy! HB
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