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Post by Marvel Boy on Mar 29, 2015 9:56:57 GMT -5
While details have been scarce about the nature of the MU after Secret Wars, Marvel has released the line-up of the new Avengers team set to premiere on Free Comic Book Day: There's Falcon-Cap, Vision, Lady Thor, an Iron Man, Nova, Ms. Marvel and Miles Morales the Ultimate Spider-Man. Early word is that Mark Waid and Mahmud Asrar will be the creative team. So we're going younger, perhaps scaling back on the team size and going in an All-New direction. I admit, I'm intrigued. Thoughts?
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Post by bobc on Mar 29, 2015 11:53:32 GMT -5
Hmmmm--we shall see. I'd be all for a smaller Avengers team, except for the fact that there is already so much confusion due to the fact that there are currently like 100,000 "Avengers" running around. I mean seriously, who isn't an Avenger at this point? It's pretty obvious that Marvel doesn't care about continuity--in fact they are clearly against it and have been for at least a decade. Comic creators just careen from one special event to the next. I'll be the first to admit that keeping track of fifty plus years of continuity probably isn't possible anymore, but in my perfect little dream world I'd have kept the Avengers down to something like 40 or maybe 50 elite characters, and juggle them around when things needed to be spiced up. I guess my thinking is going to have to change. The old days are long over.
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Post by bobc on Mar 29, 2015 11:54:14 GMT -5
Uhhh--that is Ms. Marvel? Boy am I out of it.
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Post by starfoxxx on Mar 29, 2015 14:02:14 GMT -5
My initial "thought" is that this very young-looking "Avengers" team reminds me of that NEXT AVENGERS DvD that came out a few years ago, and I had no interest in and avoided----- My next thought is I will ONLY be checking this book out if it is a freebie for FCBDay. And I'm left with a feeling of disappointment, another Avengers title I probably won't be interested in... I just want something SOMEWHAT reminiscent of Avengers volume 1 or 3, or West Coast Avengers. It's hard to get my Avengers fix these days.
oh well, that movie in May looks pretty good......
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Post by Doctor Bong Crosby on Mar 29, 2015 19:31:48 GMT -5
I guess the Avengers don´t have a rule against having minors as members anymore...? I take it their first antagonist is gonna be Radioactive Man. And, is it just me, or is this particular iteration of the IM armor a very bland one...? They should call themselves the Replacements... lets see: we have a Thor who isn´t Thor Odinson, a Captain America who isn´t Steve Rogers, an Iron Man who isn´t Tony Stark, a Ms Marvel who isn´t Carol Danvers, a Spider-Man who isn´t Peter Parker and a Nova who isn´t Richard Rider... . At this point, I´m starting to wonder about the Vision. Could it be that this is the "teenager" Vision version, returning after Secret Wars?
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Post by humanbelly on Mar 30, 2015 8:26:23 GMT -5
My initial "thought" is that this very young-looking "Avengers" team reminds me of that NEXT AVENGERS DvD that came out a few years ago, and I had no interest in and avoided----- My next thought is I will ONLY be checking this book out if it is a freebie for FCBDay. And I'm left with a feeling of disappointment, another Avengers title I probably won't be interested in... I just want something SOMEWHAT reminiscent of Avengers volume 1 or 3, or West Coast Avengers. It's hard to get my Avengers fix these days. oh well, that movie in May looks pretty good...... The NEXT AVENGERS dvd was actually a decently amusing little diversion-- as it had a fairly legitimate M2-Universe feel to it--- a possible tale of the future that respected established continuity (at the time). It's hard to comment on the book from such a small amount of info-- but it surely does look an awful lot like "Sam Wilson and Avengers Academy", doesn't it? I'm all over the place, here, though, w/ speculation. Could this be a Disney-Editorial push to get content back to the youth-friendly roots of comic books? They would REALLLLLY need to change the overall tone and story-telling style, then. Here's the thing (and HBGirl astutely pointed this out to me), periodicals that feature 16 to 18 year-olds are actually read by 11 to 14 year olds. Capturing the 16-18 year-old market needs to feature characters in their early 20's. It's not so much a matter of "relating" to kids one's own age, as it is "aspiring" to becoming the cooler kids the next bracket up. Disney. . . may actually be savvy enough to get that; Marvel, I think, lost sight of that several decades ago. Won't matter, though--- the books are still too expensive. The. End. Ooh, but one other observation: I wonder if there's a bit of an attempt here to follow DC's path when they started the Silver Age by giving us new people in the identities of old, established heroes (namely, Flash and Green Lantern)? For some reason, in that context, I'm a little more open to the idea. . . HB
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Post by bobc on Mar 30, 2015 10:33:13 GMT -5
That is an astute observation, Bongsy. I didn't even notice that none of the characters were the originals. I'm really enjoying the new Captain America book, it's really well written, but I wish it was a Falcon series. The other characters, who have known the real CA for decades, call Sam Wilson "Cap"--and that just seems jarring to me.
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Post by Marvel Boy on Mar 30, 2015 19:28:02 GMT -5
My initial "thought" is that this very young-looking "Avengers" team reminds me of that NEXT AVENGERS DvD that came out a few years ago, and I had no interest in and avoided----- My next thought is I will ONLY be checking this book out if it is a freebie for FCBDay. And I'm left with a feeling of disappointment, another Avengers title I probably won't be interested in... I just want something SOMEWHAT reminiscent of Avengers volume 1 or 3, or West Coast Avengers. It's hard to get my Avengers fix these days. oh well, that movie in May looks pretty good...... Yes, this is the issue for FCBDay. About the replacements, I'm somewhat surprised that they are still there. With Secret Wars being made out to be such a BIG event, I would've thought that Odinson and Steve might end up re-assuming their hero identities but apparently not. So I find it interesting that Marvel is charging ahead with Lady Thor and Falcon-Cap. And so far, no clue as to whom is actually under that Iron Man armor. But for me, the biggest part of this announcement is Mark Waid. I'm not sure how you all may feel about him as a writer, but from my experience reading his work over the years, Waid GETS it. After 2-3 years of celestial, multiversal, non-linear epic stories from Hickman, Waid may end scaling the adventures back down to something resembling traditional, especially if this is the ongoing size of the team, without the bazillion number of reserves and alternates in the wings.
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