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Post by Marvel Boy on Jun 7, 2013 20:15:52 GMT -5
www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=45933This Sept. sees the relaunch of the Mighty Avengers title, written by Al Ewing with art by Greg Land. Tied in with the Infinity event, this team forms to fight back against Thanos who invades the Earth while the majority of the Avengers are in deep space. Roster is set to include the likes of Power Man, Falcon, Monica Rambeau, White Tiger, Echo, and the Superior Spider-Man. This means that overall, we will now have 7 Avengers titles on the market.
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Post by spiderwasp on Jun 8, 2013 1:42:47 GMT -5
www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=45933This Sept. sees the relaunch of the Mighty Avengers title, written by Al Ewing with art by Greg Land. Tied in with the Infinity event, this team forms to fight back against Thanos who invades the Earth while the majority of the Avengers are in deep space. Roster is set to include the likes of Power Man, Falcon, Monica Rambeau, White Tiger, Echo, and the Superior Spider-Man. This means that overall, we will now have 7 Avengers titles on the market. Oh dear. Here's another of those dilemmas that Marvel loves to throw at me. I love the idea of Monica Rambeau making a comeback, the picture in the article shows She-Hulk, which is always a good thing and I like the Falcon and White Tiger just fine. HOWEVER, I have avoided the ridiculousness of the Superior Spider-man like the plague and the last thing the world needs is a new version of Ronin. I like Luke Cage too but the fact that he references Bendis when talking about where he's going with the character scares me. I'll probably give it a shot for Monica and She-Hulk but I shall proceed cautiously. |
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Post by tomspasic on Jun 8, 2013 6:50:12 GMT -5
Oh.
Oh, well....
Umm... I did like the tie-in AU Avengers Assemble issue the writer guy did. So that's something.
But do we really need to go further down this "X-men of a thousand books" road? Do we not have enough Avengers titles already?
Plus I hate Echo, Ronin and the Bendis' Luke Cage, not to mention Jessica "if I never see her again it'll be too soon" jones. So there's that too.
I'll probably give it a try, I endeavour to give things a fair shake. But I'm not super enthusiastic.
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Post by starfoxxx on Jun 9, 2013 9:17:09 GMT -5
PLEASE don't read this the wrong way---- but after seeing the cover, the first thing I thought was
ETHNIC AVENGERS.
I even thought the new PowerMan character was Triathlon with those funky goggles.
Hey, I love Greg Land's art style, and I don't know WHO Al Ewing is.... but this line-up doesn't impress me, and I'll be checking out the threads on the AA boards for reviews/feedback to see if this title will be worthwhile.
Of the 7 Avengers titles, I'm only reading Uncanny and New Avengers----pretty disappointing in the grand scheme of things, but do I really want to spend more than $7 or $8 bucks a month on Avengers comics ?? (Believe me, I would if they were worth it. So far Uncanny is great, and New is pretty good. I'm overall disappointed in Marvel's handling of their newest "franchise" title.)
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Post by wundagoreborn on Jun 10, 2013 9:35:14 GMT -5
The Free Comic Book Day teaser for Infinity has me really interested in reading that series. If this new title is an outgrowth of that, I may ride along. Too many Avengers titles coming too quickly has kept me out of the current issues so far, but a new #1 is a tempting place to jump in.
I too had hoped to keep clear of Doctor Spiderpus, but I really like Monica, She-Hulk and Falcon. Could be an interesting group.
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Post by Marvel Boy on Jun 10, 2013 9:45:44 GMT -5
I'm happy to see Monica involved with the group again. She first came aboard the Avengers at the same time I did so I'll always have a soft spot for her. But do we really need to go further down this "X-men of a thousand books" road? Do we not have enough Avengers titles already? My thoughts exactly. I did a recount and including this book, that's 10 titles affiliated with the Avengers as a group. That's insane. Flooding the market like this will eventually backfire on them. |
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Post by wundagoreborn on Jun 10, 2013 10:40:57 GMT -5
Flooding the market like this will eventually backfire on them. I would think so too, but so far the market appears to be bearing it. comicchron for April says 3 of the titles (Avengers, Uncannny and New) sell over 60 K each issue. 3 others (Young, Secret, Assemble) over 30K, with Arena just under that (28-ish). If Mighty just joins that second tier and then they scrap Dark (16K) in exchange, they squeeze another drop from the existing market? www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2013/2013-04.html |
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Post by humanbelly on Jun 10, 2013 12:43:49 GMT -5
Flooding the market like this will eventually backfire on them. I would think so too, but so far the market appears to be bearing it. comicchron for April says 3 of the titles (Avengers, Uncannny and New) sell over 60 K each issue. 3 others (Young, Secret, Assemble) over 30K, with Arena just under that (28-ish). If Mighty just joins that second tier and then they scrap Dark (16K) in exchange, they squeeze another drop from the existing market? www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2013/2013-04.htmlThese numbers seem so abysmally poor compared to what were considered sustainable in decades-gone-by. Am I remembering right that, once upon a time, 70K in circulation was considered the cancellation point for most comics? Man, NOBODY is reading these things anymore-- even though it looks like sales are generally up right now, it can't possibly be enough to reverse a clear long-term decline in readership. No new readers coming in, I assume? Attrition thinning the ranks? Geeze, how does Archie Comics even stay in business? HB |
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Post by ultron69 on Jun 11, 2013 7:54:54 GMT -5
Flooding the market like this will eventually backfire on them. I would love to think so, but it seems like there is no shortage of Marvel Zombies to lap up whatever is dished out. They should have flooded the market on X-Men years ago, but they remain very popular. |
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Post by wundagoreborn on Jun 11, 2013 8:44:07 GMT -5
even though it looks like sales are generally up right now, it can't possibly be enough to reverse a clear long-term decline in readership. Geeze, how does Archie Comics even stay in business? HB I think the conversion from mass market product to boutique product is done and permanent. I suspect that absent the Internet's enabling of vibrant niche cultures, the comic book might have passed out of commerce altogether and become a hobby & underground self-publication form. That there are still LCSs, a book with a 100K readers and big conventions can be viewed as an amazing survival rather than a discouraging decline. How Archie persists is something I've wondered for a while. |
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Post by Marvel Boy on Jun 11, 2013 23:33:03 GMT -5
Hm, I thought the old number for cancellation was around 100-150,000? Still, a far cry from Claremont and Lee's X-Men #1 selling 1 million+ copies but that was more from the speculator boom than anything else.
I've never read that much of Archie, but reading various news over the years, it seems they are more willing to take chances, to expand on their line than the Big Two. They have one magazine devoted to Adult Archie, with one storyline running if he ended up with Betty and a concurrent storyline with him ending up with Veronica. Plus, there's Kevin Keller, the first openly gay character in Riverdale, and their handling of the subject has been received rather well.
Digital sales are also having an effect though I don't know if those are included in the numbers you mentioned Wundy. Though I doubt the Big Two will ever fully get away from monthly print editions.
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Post by wundagoreborn on Jun 18, 2013 20:12:20 GMT -5
Digital sales are also having an effect though I don't know if those are included in the numbers you mentioned Wundy. This is a great point. Those numbers are from a hard copy distributor, so I don't think digital would be represented at all. |
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Post by humanbelly on Jun 19, 2013 7:03:25 GMT -5
Digital sales are also having an effect though I don't know if those are included in the numbers you mentioned Wundy. This is a great point. Those numbers are from a hard copy distributor, so I don't think digital would be represented at all. I did a quick search, and discovered a comichron article from just a couple of days ago talking about the ethereal "hard" data for digital downloads-- although it certainly seems to be a considerable amount. blog.comichron.com/2013/06/digital-comics-40-million-downloads-year.htmlHB |
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