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Post by wundagoreborn on Mar 22, 2013 13:54:43 GMT -5
Talking about Shulkie as a force to be reckoned with -- here she decks Thor!
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Post by spiderwasp on Mar 23, 2013 23:17:47 GMT -5
Yellowjacket II was an odd duck with regards to the Avengers. She was an okay villain but nothing special, took an interesting turn into becoming an Avenger, headed off to the Guardians of the Galaxy where she was turned into a very interesting character, returned to her own time period - poised to make her mark now that she was interesting, and was pointlessly, instantly killed upon arrival in one of the worst stories in Avengers history. Poor Rita. She didn't have much to pick from cover wise either. Okay, granted she was a villain here rather than member but it's a real good cover. This was the issue where she reluctantly went from a member of the Masters of Evil to Avenger so I thought that made it worthy of the list. This is the only cover I've seen that actually portrayed her in an heroic fashion. It also cemented the fact that she actually was an Avenger.
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Post by humanbelly on Mar 24, 2013 12:01:12 GMT -5
I haven't done many consecutive issues for any character but I thought this one was interesting. I'm not sure if I like it all that much but it's very interesting. . Yes, it's interesting, but it fails totally to do what the 215 cover does. The fierce expression does not at all capture how torn Tigra was when she got that shot to kill Owie. Re: "Ladies' Intimates" department - HB's logical objection is right on, but I don't bite the hand that teases me. Hey, back to Tigra for a second-- What's the deal with her sometimes having a tail and sometimes not? None of the depicted covers here show one-- but she definitely DOES have one in many issues. Her Marvel Wiki entry is rather over-burdened, and browsing through it didn't give me an answer. Has she had different mutations or something over the course of time? Or was this just editorial carelessness-? HB
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Post by spiderwasp on Mar 24, 2013 21:47:30 GMT -5
Yes, it's interesting, but it fails totally to do what the 215 cover does. The fierce expression does not at all capture how torn Tigra was when she got that shot to kill Owie. Re: "Ladies' Intimates" department - HB's logical objection is right on, but I don't bite the hand that teases me. Hey, back to Tigra for a second-- What's the deal with her sometimes having a tail and sometimes not? None of the depicted covers here show one-- but she definitely DOES have one in many issues. Her Marvel Wiki entry is rather over-burdened, and browsing through it didn't give me an answer. Has she had different mutations or something over the course of time? Or was this just editorial carelessness-? HB She gained it in West Coast Avengers 15, when the cat people settled the whole multiple personality issue. She emerged stronger, faster, and with a tail. All of the covers I picked were before that issue. However, it is odd that she doesn't have one in the picture with Hell-cat since that is WC Avengers 16. My guess is that the cover had already been drawn before the artist found out about the addition.
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Post by spiderwasp on Mar 24, 2013 22:15:34 GMT -5
Captain Marvel (Monica Rambeau) is a character that I wish would make a triumphant return. I know she's still around as Photon but she hasn't really had a triumphant appearance since the Dr.Druid/Nebula fiasco just before #300. Before that, she was a great character. Nice first appearance. I always thought it was odd that she started in Spider-man when she was so clearly created for the Avengers. On the other hand, hardly any Avengers actually first started there (Vision, Hell-cat, Triathalon, Silver Claw, Black Knight - very few) I know that was kind of a tangeant. www.coverbrowser.com/image/avengers/255-14.jpg [/img] There were several good covers to choose from but I went with this one because of its uniqueness. This didn't exactly mark a huge comeback for the character but it was nice to see her on a cover again - and looking good.
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Post by ultron69 on Mar 25, 2013 11:50:34 GMT -5
Talking about Shulkie as a force to be reckoned with -- here she decks Thor! Impressive cover for Jen, but I always hated when they called the Shulkie.
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Post by ultron69 on Mar 25, 2013 11:53:16 GMT -5
Captain Marvel (Monica Rambeau) is a character that I wish would make a triumphant return. I know she's still around as Photon but she hasn't really had a triumphant appearance since the Dr.Druid/Nebula fiasco just before #300. Before that, she was a great character. She was a good character when Roger Stern wrote her. It seems like nobody writer has had any use for her since.
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Post by wundagoreborn on Mar 26, 2013 10:23:11 GMT -5
Jen has a nice sexy turn there on 227 also. I've gone back and forth on "Shulkie" but I recall there is a passage in the Jaded TPB where she embraces the nickname. If Jen's OK with it, then me too.
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Post by spiderwasp on Mar 26, 2013 21:58:08 GMT -5
Another character who was used well for a while and then just sort of vanished: Starfox A first appearance and floating heads - what a surprise. Although this cover doesn't feature the character, persay, it is a nice pose. I like this cover even though it's a very poor representation of what actually happens in the issue. He isn't carried kicking and screaming into the Unimind. Instead, he welcomes the opportunity. I guess this seemed more dramatic.
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Post by wundagoreborn on Mar 27, 2013 10:15:08 GMT -5
Funny - Until now, I never got the play on Fox's real name in the "From Titan with Love" title.
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Post by ultron69 on Mar 28, 2013 13:27:11 GMT -5
I liked Starfox when he was with the Avengers, but I get the impression he's not one of the more beloved members among fans.
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Post by spiderwasp on Mar 28, 2013 20:20:46 GMT -5
I remember being surprised when Namor became an Avenger but darned if he didn't make a good one. Here's my highlights. With Attuma, the Atlanteans, and the underwater setting as well as his body language, this feels like a Sub-mariner cover, guest starring the Avengers. I think is my favorite Namor cover. Very strong representation for the character. This isn't really my favorite artwork but the layout and regal pose is so nice that it makes the cut for me.
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Post by wundagoreborn on Mar 29, 2013 6:27:13 GMT -5
Namor's face is tortured by the artist here, but since this is the kind of fight both he and Herc were constantly spoiling for I still find the image rather satisfying:
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Post by ultron69 on Mar 29, 2013 7:46:33 GMT -5
Yeah, Namor did make a surprisingly good Avenger. I think a lot of it had to do with his respect for Cap and the good ol' days of WWII.
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Post by spiderwasp on Mar 31, 2013 21:37:55 GMT -5
This was not a character I particularly liked but I'm being inclusive so------Dr. Druid He's not exactly front and center but it's a great cover. Then again, if he was front and center, it wouldn't be such a great cover. This was just a really nice cover for everyone involved Not much to say - he is featured
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Post by Marvel Boy on Apr 2, 2013 1:20:51 GMT -5
I liked Starfox when he was with the Avengers, but I get the impression he's not one of the more beloved members among fans. I love Starfox since he joined the team around the same time I started reading the book. I can see where he might be viewed as underrated but I thought he did rather well on the team. Great covers of him but another I like is: Not the best view of him, but the depiction of the whole team heading to assault Nebula made for a cool action scene.
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Post by spiderwasp on Apr 2, 2013 1:54:41 GMT -5
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Post by cfb on Apr 2, 2013 16:27:51 GMT -5
Danke schoen for the covers featuring Bobbi!
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Post by humanbelly on Apr 2, 2013 20:29:05 GMT -5
Danke schoen for the covers featuring Bobbi! Hooooooly cats, c, I think you've confirmed my earlier theory that you are indeed a deep-cover Watcher. And apparently what you're deeply engaged in watching are. . . Bobbi's legs-! *ahem* Shame, O Observer of the Cosmos, Shame! ;D HB
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Post by spiderwasp on Apr 5, 2013 14:25:26 GMT -5
For this next one, it was tough to find 3 covers - nevertheless 3 great ones. Poor Marrina didn't recieve a lot of respect in these pages. This was the only cover I found on which she looked like her normal self. At least I think she's her normal self. It's kind of hard to tell since she's small and close to a fetal position. And here's Miss America herself, front and center. One thing about it, no one could have accused them of putting her on the cover because sexy sells. There were 2 back to back covers that showed her in Leviathan form. It was 50/50 as far as which one to include as my third, so I decided to go with the one that identifies her by name.
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Post by humanbelly on Apr 5, 2013 21:23:22 GMT -5
Very much like Jocasta, I think Marrina represented a completely missed opportunity for exploring a unique and interesting character. She's a very unusual kind of character for Marvel. . . or at least somewhat atypical. She's not a mutant, she's not the result of a radioactive accident, nor does she have a supernatural origin. She's, in a way, a mistakenly-programmed predatory extraterrestrial cowbird-- the mistake being that she became genetically patterned to be a compassionate human, which is what makes her such a cool and unique hero. She's an alien-- but not the usual kind at all. (I guess Mar-Vell would be the closest thing to a similar role.)
I certainly like the idea of having an earth-born alien on the team, defending their adoptive homeland (seems like a certain big blue boyscout did a nice job of setting that precedent many, many decades ago. . . ). I REALLY liked the idea of a more mature, level-headed Namor coming with the package, especially since this little wife of his was in fact quite physically mighty in her own right-- like a gamma-charged Audrey Hepburn. But no-- they hit a dead-end with her almost immediately, and very predictably killed her off for no good reason.
HB
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Post by spiderwasp on Apr 7, 2013 10:00:53 GMT -5
Bashful Benjy's tenure was so short as to be practically non-existant but I still pulled his 3 appearances from his WC run rather than from some of the guest appearances as part of the FF. Of course, technically, he wasn't a member for any of these covers either since he left the team at the beginning of the issue following his joining at the end of the previous one so he was only an official member for a few panels. These are at least the ones in which Hawkeye was badgering him to join. Okay, nothing exciting but he was up front and featured pretty well. I think was probably the best cover he had. I was never a fan of this costume though. It just didn't work for him. He looks more like he was throwing a temper tantrum than helping with the fight. Who knows? Maybe he was actually yelling "No Hawkeye! I don't want to join!"
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Post by Marvel Boy on Apr 7, 2013 10:39:25 GMT -5
Hm, I had forgotten about Ben's appearances in WCA. Isn't that the costume he had during his time on Beyonder's World?
I like how he and Hawkeye have virtually the same poses in all three covers.
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Post by spiderwasp on Apr 8, 2013 18:24:34 GMT -5
Okay, this is a tricky one. I only found 2 covers for War Machine, but, techincally Rhodes was Iron Man in the WC Avengers Limited Series so those depictions are of the same character. This is not one my overall favorite covers but it certainly is a strong one for the character. I do like this one though. This was my favorite of his 4 IM appearances.
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Post by sharkar on Apr 9, 2013 13:01:35 GMT -5
Hm, I had forgotten about Ben's appearances in WCA. Isn't that the costume he had during his time on Beyonder's World? Oh, that's right--it's his Rocky Grimm "Space Ranger" ;D look! I've only read a couple of issues of that series, I really should read the rest. Ben's the greatest. If I may move back a few characters and return to Namor, here's an Avengers cover I like, by the very underrated Don Heck:
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Post by wundagoreborn on Apr 9, 2013 14:05:25 GMT -5
That WC 94 cover is awesome. Very dramatic shot of War Machine, who is a fave of mine.
"From the heavy metal pages..." - classic. Plus I'm a sucker for all things Darkhawk.
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Post by spiderwasp on Apr 9, 2013 23:07:14 GMT -5
To me, there's no logical reason Moon Knight would make a good Avenger, and yet, he did. I love the way the rest of the team is in the back cheering even though nothing even similar happened in the book. It is a nice cover though. This is an okay cover, nothing special. But it does show Moony in action. This one's pretty nice. MK fared much better inside the book than he seems to be on the cover though.
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Post by humanbelly on Apr 10, 2013 7:53:44 GMT -5
That's it. I am going to have to go down and drag out my WCA run. I KNOW I have the whole thing. . . and yet I keep seeing covers for storylines that I have no memory of whatsoever. I am embarrassed to admit that I'd completely forgotten Moon Knight was a significant member at one point, even.
Boy, put him, Cloak, and the Shroud on a single squad and you've got a group that's gonna win on moody, intimidating, pseudo-mystical panache alone!
I'll also add that, although I'm definitely not a fan of Milgrom's covers in general, that third one you've chosen there is quite good-- certainly one of his best, I'd say.
HB
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Post by ultron69 on Apr 10, 2013 12:44:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I'd forgotten about Moony too, and it wasn't all that long ago that I read through some of my WCA's.
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Post by spiderwasp on Apr 10, 2013 21:26:36 GMT -5
Firebird was around the West Coast team for quite a while but she didn't have a lot show as far as covers are concerned. Not a terribly impressive appearance but there she is. And there she is again And again Not much else to say
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