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Post by woodside on Mar 24, 2012 9:24:22 GMT -5
Well, you guys knew this was coming: the Avengers vs X-Men read order! I'm pretty psyched for this crossover. I've been slowly getting back into comic after a hiatus and this was just the thing to get me nice and energized.
And, truthfully, I've always had a strange desire to see the Avenges and the X-Men come to blows!
So without further ado . . . the read order thus far . . .
PRELUDE Marvel .1 Avengers: X-Sanction # 1-4 Avengers 24.1
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Post by spiderwasp on Mar 25, 2012 15:36:30 GMT -5
I think this is the only AVSX thread so I guess this comment will work here. I have nothing against the whole AVSX thing but I do resent having 5 pages of every book I buy taken up by the exact same preview. We're payng for this stuff to just be reprinted over and over. I read it the first time.
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Post by woodside on Mar 25, 2012 16:45:43 GMT -5
I think this is the only AVSX thread so I guess this comment will work here. I have nothing against the whole AVSX thing but I do resent having 5 pages of every book I buy taken up by the exact same preview. We're payng for this stuff to just be reprinted over and over. I read it the first time. I agree! And if you go on-line, those five pages are the only pages you'll see. It's crazy. And it's not like these are the most exciting pages ever, y'know.
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Post by woodside on Apr 25, 2012 22:36:56 GMT -5
Whew! Got the latest issues and this one is going to be a hard one! There are some weird story conflicts. The events in New Avengers and Avengers conflict a little with Secret Avengers and AvsX. And AvsX conflicts with Secret Avengers!
So I'm going to do the best I can. Bare in mind this is a read order and not a chronological listing. It's a bit like I handled Siege, where the goal is to create the best way to read the crossover without sacrificing storytelling.
So far, this is the highly tenative list:
PRELUDE Marvel .1 Avengers: X-Sanction # 1-4 Avengers 24.1
ROUND ONE AvsX # 0 AvsX # 1 Wolverine and the X-Men # 9 New Avengers # 24 Avengers # 25 AvsX # 2 (pages 1 - 10, panel one) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 1 AvsX # 2 (rest of issue) Uncanny X-Men # 11 Secret Avengers # 26 New Avengers # 25
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Post by woodside on Jun 16, 2012 0:04:03 GMT -5
A little more caught-up, although I'm missing Avengers Academy and X-Men: Legacy for now. I'll try and pick this up down the line, but I just don't have the money for these tie-ins at this time. Also, please note that I'm actually overhauling the Read Order. I think the editors were snoozing when they went through these books. Avengers and Secret Avengers completely and totally contradict each other. They sneak a reference box into Avengers # 26 to the Secret Avengers books, but how is it the Quinjet is blasted to bits in Secret Avengers but is slightly damaged in Avengers? Hopefully the last issue of the Secret Avengers tie-in will resolve some of this. The "new" way of presenting this crossover will be in three ways: 1) AvsX and Avengers vs X-Men This main title is very tight, so I think it would be best to isolate it and take it by itself -- with the Avengers vs X-Men mini to help pad out the fights. 2) Avengers Mainly following the Avengers POV throughout crossover 3) X-Men Mainly following he X-Men's POV throughout the crossover Read Order # 1: Avengers vs X-Men AvsX # 0 AvsX # 1 AvsX # 2 (pages 1 - 10, panel one) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 1 AvsX # 2 (rest of issue) AvsX # 3 AvsX # 4 (pages 1-14, panel 2) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 2 (Captain America vs Gambit) AvsX # 4 (pages 14-15) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 2 (Colossus vs Spider-Man) AvsX # 4 (rest of issue) AvsX # 5 (pages 1-10) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 3 AvsX # 5 (rest of issue) Read Order # 2: Avengers Avengers # 24.1 New Avengers # 24 Avengers # 25 New Avengers # 25 New Avengers # 26 Avengers # 26 (pages 1-8) Secret Avengers # 26 Secret Avengers # 27 Avengers # 26 (rest of issue) Avengers # 27 Read Order # 3: X-Men Wolverine and the X-Men # 9 Uncanny X-Men # 11 Wolverine and the X-Men # 10 Uncanny X-Men # 12 Wolverine and the X-Men # 11 Uncanny X-Men # 13 Someday I might just be crazy enough to put together a chronological reading of this crossover.
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Post by woodside on Jun 29, 2012 22:48:32 GMT -5
Read Order # 1: Avengers vs X-Men AvsX # 0 AvsX # 1 AvsX # 2 (pages 1 - 10, panel one) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 1 AvsX # 2 (rest of issue) AvsX # 3 AvsX # 4 (pages 1-14, panel 2) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 2 (Captain America vs Gambit) AvsX # 4 (pages 14-15) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 2 (Colossus vs Spider-Man) AvsX # 4 (rest of issue) AvsX # 5 (pages 1-10) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 3 AvsX # 5 (rest of issue) AvsX # 6
Read Order # 2: Avengers Avengers # 24.1 New Avengers # 24 Avengers # 25 Avengers # 26 (pages 1-8) Secret Avengers # 26 Secret Avengers # 27 Secret Avengers # 28 Avengers # 26 (rest of issue) Avengers # 27 New Avengers # 25 New Avengers # 26 New Avengers # 27
Read Order # 3: X-Men Wolverine and the X-Men # 9 Uncanny X-Men # 11 Wolverine and the X-Men # 10 Uncanny X-Men # 12 Wolverine and the X-Men # 11 Uncanny X-Men # 13 Uncanny X-Men # 14 Wolverine and the X-Men # 12
Secret Avengers fits "okay" within the confines of Avengers, though it's a odd combination. I may just give it a read at some point in that order just to see how it fits.
Another reason I'm pushing for this kind of read order is because of the logic bend events of AvsX # 6 which shows Beast quitting the team . . . and then Wolverine and the X-Men # 12, in which he is still on board.
It reminds me a lot of the Invisible Woman debacle from Civil War, where we saw her write that letter to Reed and basically "flee into the night" -- but we also saw her get into huge argument with Reed where she put a hole in the floor and ceiling and left that way. We can fudge the details for that one (and I did) and I suppose we can do the same for Beast.
This all begs the question: who is editing this supposedly mapped out and planned event?
As I've said before, my rather limited comic budget has forced me to cut out X-Men Legacy and Avengers Academy . . . but maybe someday!
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Post by woodside on Jul 8, 2012 14:06:57 GMT -5
Read Order # 1: Avengers vs X-Men AvsX # 0 AvsX # 1 AvsX # 2 (pages 1 - 10, panel one) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 1 AvsX # 2 (rest of issue) AvsX # 3 AvsX # 4 (pages 1-14, panel 2) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 2 (Captain America vs Gambit) AvsX # 4 (pages 14-15) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 2 (Colossus vs Spider-Man) AvsX # 4 (rest of issue) AvsX # 5 (pages 1-10) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 3 AvsX # 5 (rest of issue) AvsX # 6
Read Order # 2: Avengers Avengers # 24.1 New Avengers # 24 Avengers # 25 Avengers # 26 (pages 1-8) Secret Avengers # 26 Secret Avengers # 27 Secret Avengers # 28 Avengers # 26 (rest of issue) Avengers # 27 New Avengers # 25 New Avengers # 26 New Avengers # 27
Read Order # 3: X-Men Wolverine and the X-Men # 9 Uncanny X-Men # 11 Wolverine and the X-Men # 10 Uncanny X-Men # 12 Wolverine and the X-Men # 11 Uncanny X-Men # 13 Wolverine and the X-Men # 12 Uncanny X-Men # 14 Uncanny X-Men # 15
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Post by woodside on Aug 1, 2012 21:11:08 GMT -5
Read Order # 1: Avengers vs X-Men AvsX # 0 AvsX # 1 AvsX # 2 (pages 1 - 10, panel one) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 1 AvsX # 2 (rest of issue) AvsX # 3 AvsX # 4 (pages 1-14, panel 2) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 2 (Captain America vs Gambit) AvsX # 4 (pages 14-15) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 2 (Colossus vs Spider-Man) AvsX # 4 (rest of issue) AvsX # 5 (pages 1-10) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 3 AvsX # 5 (rest of issue) AvsX # 6 AvsX # 7 AvsX # 8 AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 4 AvsX # 9
Read Order # 2: Avengers Avengers # 24.1 New Avengers # 24 Avengers # 25 Avengers # 26 (pages 1-8) Secret Avengers # 26 Secret Avengers # 27 Secret Avengers # 28 Avengers # 26 (rest of issue) Avengers # 27 New Avengers # 25 New Avengers # 26 New Avengers # 27 New Avengers # 28 Avengers # 28
Read Order # 3: X-Men Wolverine and the X-Men # 9 Uncanny X-Men # 11 Wolverine and the X-Men # 10 Uncanny X-Men # 12 Wolverine and the X-Men # 11 Wolverine and the X-Men # 12 Wolverine and the X-Men # 13 Uncanny X-Men # 13 Uncanny X-Men # 14 Uncanny X-Men # 15 Uncanny X-Men # 16 Wolverine and the X-Men # 14
Nearing the end! Only three more issues of the main series, two more of Avengers, two more of New Avengers, three more of Wolverine and the X-Men, three more of Uncanny X-Men, and two more of AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men. Of course, there's still the "Consequences" limited series.
One of my local shops typically have big sales, where they offer $1.00 back issues. I plan on hitting it up to get caught up with Legacy and Academy.
As the crossover continues, we will see things continue to shift. I'm hoping to have a chance sit down when this is all over and read it as one big story! (if the kids are asleep)
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Post by woodside on Oct 4, 2012 0:20:28 GMT -5
Read Order # 1: Avengers vs X-Men Marvel .1 AvsX # 0 AvsX # 1 AvsX # 2 (pages 1 - 10, panel one) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 1 AvsX # 2 (rest of issue) AvsX # 3 AvsX # 4 (pages 1-14, panel 2) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 5 AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 2 (Captain America vs Gambit) AvsX # 4 (pages 14-15) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 2 (Colossus vs Spider-Man) AvsX # 4 (rest of issue) AvsX # 5 (pages 1-10) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 3 AvsX # 5 (rest of issue) AvsX # 6 AvsX # 7 AvsX # 8 AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 4 AvsX # 9 AvsX # 10 AvsX # 11 AvsX # 12 (pages 1 - 5) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 6 (Scarlet Witch vs Hope) AvsX # 12 (rest of issue)
Read Order # 2: Avengers Avengers # 24.1 New Avengers # 24 Avengers # 25 Avengers # 26 (pages 1-8) Secret Avengers # 26 Secret Avengers # 27 Secret Avengers # 28 Avengers # 26 (rest of issue) Avengers # 27 Avengers # 28 Avengers # 29 New Avengers # 25 New Avengers # 26 New Avengers # 27 New Avengers # 28 New Avengers # 29 New Avengers # 30 Avengers # 30
Read Order # 3: X-Men Wolverine and the X-Men # 9 Wolverine and the X-Men # 10 Wolverine and the X-Men # 11 Uncanny X-Men # 12 Uncanny X-Men # 13 Wolverine and the X-Men # 12 Wolverine and the X-Men # 13 Uncanny X-Men # 14 Uncanny X-Men # 15 Uncanny X-Men # 16 Uncanny X-Men # 17 Wolverine and the X-Men # 14 Wolverine and the X-Men # 15 Wolverine and the X-Men # 16 Uncanny X-Men # 18 Uncanny X-Men # 19
Just a few notes:
- Obviously, no X-Men: Legacy or Avengers Academy. Like I said, can't afford them. Probably no A+X either.
- Avengers is done with the crossover. X-Men has two more issues. However, Wolverine and the X-Men # 17 was not a part of the crossover and was stand-alone.
- AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 5 needs to take place way earlier in the crossover, as the events unfold during the search for Hope around issue 3 or 4
- I will be picking up AvsX: Consequences
- Marvel .1 fits nicely in as a prelude. I recommend reading it with the full mini-series
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Post by woodside on Oct 31, 2012 21:49:32 GMT -5
Read Order # 1: Avengers vs X-Men Marvel .1 AvsX # 0 AvsX # 1 AvsX # 2 (pages 1 - 10, panel one) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 1 AvsX # 2 (rest of issue) AvsX # 3 AvsX # 4 (pages 1-14, panel 2) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 5 AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 2 (Captain America vs Gambit) AvsX # 4 (pages 14-15) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 2 (Colossus vs Spider-Man) AvsX # 4 (rest of issue) AvsX # 5 (pages 1-10) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 3 AvsX # 5 (rest of issue) AvsX # 6 AvsX # 7 AvsX # 8 AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 4 AvsX # 9 AvsX # 10 AvsX # 11 AvsX # 12 (pages 1 - 5) AvsX: Avengers vs X-Men # 6 (Scarlet Witch vs Hope) AvsX # 12 (rest of issue)
Read Order # 2: Avengers Avengers # 24.1 New Avengers # 24 Avengers # 25 Avengers # 26 (pages 1-8) Secret Avengers # 26 Secret Avengers # 27 Secret Avengers # 28 Avengers # 26 (rest of issue) Avengers # 27 Avengers # 28 Avengers # 29 New Avengers # 25 New Avengers # 26 New Avengers # 27 New Avengers # 28 New Avengers # 29 New Avengers # 30 Avengers # 30
Read Order # 3: X-Men Wolverine and the X-Men # 9 Wolverine and the X-Men # 10 Wolverine and the X-Men # 11 Uncanny X-Men # 12 Uncanny X-Men # 13 Wolverine and the X-Men # 12 Wolverine and the X-Men # 13 Uncanny X-Men # 14 Uncanny X-Men # 15 Uncanny X-Men # 16 Uncanny X-Men # 17 Wolverine and the X-Men # 14 Wolverine and the X-Men # 15 Wolverine and the X-Men # 16 Uncanny X-Men # 18 Uncanny X-Men # 19 Wolverine and the X-Men # 18
Read Order # 4: Aftermath Uncanny X-Men # 20 AvsX: Consequences # 1 AvsX: Consequences # 2 AvsX: Consequences # 3 AvsX: Consequences # 4 AvsX: Consequences # 5
A few notes:
- I haven't read AvsX: Consequences yet, but I've been told that Uncanny X-Men # 20 comes before it. I suppose you could put Uncanny Avengers in there too, but honestly, I think it's better as a separate entity.
- I'm not too keen on putting A+X into this. It's yet another story I can't afford and I have no idea where I would put it.
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