Post by freedomfighter on Jul 8, 2011 13:48:53 GMT -5
This is why Marvel drives me crazy; they let Bendis pretty much kill the Alphans off panel in New Avengers. Horrible decision, but that's the way it goes... But now due to the Chaos War, virtually every dead Alpha Flight member (definitely all the core members) is alive again. lytherus.com/2011/06/16/tcr-like-x-men-and-avengers-try-alpha-flight-1/ And I'd almost be willing to accept that because so many people have screwed up Alpha Flight that it might be best to start over. But then I thought remembered reading something about Alpha being alive before this and did some research and well, it turns out Marvel left themselves a backdoor to bring back Alpha Flight a while ago. marvel.wikia.com/Alpha_Flight_%28Earth-616%29 It turns out they had a huge time travel adventure and it was speculated it was a "displaced in time" version of Alpha that had been killed. So it appears they virtually never had any plans to keep them dead and they even forgot there was already a plot in place to bring them back at some point. This is just lazy on everybody's part. Bendis for doing a lazy off panel killing of a bunch of characters; Marvel for having an out they didn't even bother to use, and then using an event to bring them back to life. It's like they're not even trying.
I totally get what you're saying FF but if they had used the time displacement concept, it would only have worked on the characters who were killed by Bendis. It seems that they wanted to bring Alpha back in its entirety (Original team anyway) including Marinna and Snowbird who were killed long before. I think the way they brought everyone back was a bit hokey but it wouldn't have made sense to just say the time displaced group was killed unless they were only bringing them back. It would also have included Puck and, for some reason, they didn't want to do that at this time. I'm sticking with the book for a while anyway in hopes that there are plans that will go beyond the lazy resurection. I am also hoping they don't forget the history of the characters. If Marinna is back, she really needs to let Namor know or it doesn't make any sense. If Shaman is back, where is Talisman? Shouldn't she be told. Shouldn't the whole team tell Madison Jeffries they are alive again? Why has Persuasion suddenly gone bad? I'm hoping these things won't be just ignored or retconned but are actually in the future plans for the book. I really liked the original book in the early days and even for several of the later stretches.
Post by freedomfighter on Jul 11, 2011 10:39:34 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong I'm happy the original Alpha Flight is back. My problem is, why kill them in the first place? They didn't intend for it to stick from day one- they had a backdoor set up. Why bother killing them off panel in the Avengers? It did nothing for the story and only served to alienate Alpha Flight fans- it really made them look second rate (just like Marvel did with the New Warriors during Civil War, but I digress...). If they hadn't killed them, it would've been very easy to reunite the team- Snowbird is a mythical goddess- doesn't take much to bring her back and a little sorcery would've worked with Shaman as well. And that might not have strained things too much. But bringing back seven or eight characters at once seems a bit much. And it makes the "deaths" at Marvel look ever more ridiculous and part of a sales ploy that they don't even bother to keep track of. It doesn't seem like anyone even cared. "Did we kill Alpha Flight?" "Yeah, but we're gonna bring them back. Those were like time clones or something." "Are we bringing them all back?" "No, I think half the team died before that." "I'll just bring 'em all back through a mystic war. How does that sound?" "Yeah, sure..." It just feels lazy.