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Post by Shiryu on Apr 25, 2011 13:44:03 GMT -5
Just back to the cinema, a quick message to say that Thor's movie is amazing!! As a fan of the character I really liked it, there are some differences with the comic book but overall is worth watching! I'll comment more after someone else has watched it too, this was just to keep the interest up ;D
Just 1 spoiler though
Last warning!!
Hawkeye is in it too!!
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Post by bobc on Apr 25, 2011 14:15:50 GMT -5
No way!!
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Post by Shiryu on Apr 25, 2011 14:27:29 GMT -5
I know, I couldn't believe it!! He has a short 5-minute cameo, but it's clearly him, and if I heard correctly they call him both Hawkeye and Clint.
SPOILER
He is a Shield agent guarding the location where Thor's hammer falls, so his background is similar to EMH.
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Post by Shiryu on Apr 25, 2011 14:43:28 GMT -5
I forgot to say, make sure you stay for the (rather long) credits, there is a fairly important scene after. If you miss it, it's online too though.
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Post by bobc on Apr 25, 2011 20:01:13 GMT -5
Don't be a tease, Shir! Where?!!!
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Post by Shiryu on Apr 26, 2011 4:09:10 GMT -5
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Post by bobc on Apr 26, 2011 7:48:59 GMT -5
It's gone now.
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Post by kidcage on Apr 26, 2011 13:44:14 GMT -5
I'll definitely be enjoying this when it hits, and it's AWESOME to hear Hawkeye's in it.
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Post by Shiryu on Apr 26, 2011 17:02:24 GMT -5
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Post by owene on Apr 27, 2011 7:36:42 GMT -5
I'll try to avoid spoilers beyond mentioning characters names but leave some space anyway
I enjoyed it a lot, the earthbound stuff was very good, Jane Foster and friends and the SHIELD involvement was all well done and I think the casting and acting on those sections was great. You really did see a change in thor pulled off quite realistically and had the fun stuff of people's reactions to him. Agent Coulson was given a lot more to play with here than in Iron Man.
It didn't quite pull off asgard, it looked a lot like Kirby's deisgns but was a little too plasticy and light to really work in places, I could see where they were coming from but it didn't have a lot of mass. I felt the themes in the asgardian sections worked fine, Branagh really brought the epic family stuff but some of the designs felt a bit flimsy.
There were still good moments to the asgard design, I liked the moment when Loki suddenly had the big horned helmet, I liked the Odin sleep effect and while I'd guess a lot of it was intended for 3d (I saw it in 2d) I liked some of the Bifrost stuff and the reimagining of how the worlds fitted together. Odin, Loki, Thor and Heimdall were all good.
The Warriors 3 (especially Fandral, Hogun was fine and Volstagg was at least ) and Sif pulled me out of it a few times, they didn't really have all that much to do and were a played lot broader than the others. They are hard characters to do right, they have quite one note personalities and are a weird mix of comic relief and competent warriors and I liked their scenes in Jotunheim but once Thor had linked up with the humans they weren't really dramatically needed and sucked a lot of my interest away when they turned up. If you take away any romantic involvement Sif only really matters to show that asgardian women can be warriors as well which isn't really that much to carry the character.
but overall I enjoyed it a lot, Loki and the giants were done really well, the Destroyer was pure Kirby, Hawkeye was cool and Hemsworth really worked as Thor and Walt Simonson got a thank you credit. (and BMB got some sort of production credit )
Had trailers for Cap and X-men first class as well. Not sure how well they are going to do but the Cap one had some cool moments and I liked McAvoy as the young Xavier even if some of the rest of that one looked a bit messy
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Post by goldenfist on May 9, 2011 11:29:50 GMT -5
I enjoyed every minute of the movie, I don't know why people made a big deal about the actor playing Heimdall.
The first time someone complained about that was some white supremeist guy then when I sent links of the trailer to some friends they said the actor playing Heimdall killed it for them.
I couldn't give a d**n what they thought.
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Post by Shiryu on May 9, 2011 13:39:52 GMT -5
I agree, the whole felt excessive. Scandinavian girls never have raven-black hair, yet Sif and Karnilla do, so I don't mind a black Heimdall. And that guy nailed the role. I move here Drew's comment, so we can stay in topic Aaaaand are you all ready to faint? The contents of Odin's vault www.liveforfilms.com/2011/05/08/what-is-in-odins-vault-in-thor/
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Post by bobc on May 10, 2011 13:28:09 GMT -5
oh my dear lord...
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Post by Shiryu on May 12, 2011 14:14:03 GMT -5
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Post by humanbelly on May 25, 2011 7:14:01 GMT -5
FINALLY got a chance to catch it at the local cinema on Sunday w/ Daughter of HB. And, really, I do think it was just fine. Not a truly great film, by any measure, but certainly a good, entertaining, and imminently watchable one. It was a normal, engaging, "hero-coming-of-age" story-- which makes it almost unavoidably formulaic. The most intense criticism I personally have heard was from the NY Times (I think), saying that the film was utterly predictable, adhered to formula, and offered no surprises nor broke new ground. And even then, the (unnecessarily negative) review conceded that there weren't actually any elements that were, in fact, bad-- they just didn't care for it being. . . predictable. But- duh- the source material is pretty much set & anchored; the storyline, while malleable, MUST hit certain pre-determined check-points; and everyone KNOWS all of the main characters will survive for further films. Obviously, this movie is a prologue film (heh, a "prequel" that's actually released before its source film! THERE'S the novelty!)-- so certainly the best move is to embrace that old, worn formula, and commit to doin' it up fancy, eh? IMO, this film succeeds just fine in that regard. I do fault the big writer-team, however, for tying to cover too much ground in one film. The storyline does get 'way too diffuse for my taste. It's that darned siren-call of "let's add one more cool thing, eh?" that Hollywood is chronically unable to resist. Too much plot ultimately reduces the impact of any of the individual plot elements. Lose the Destroyer, or lose that last "battle" w/ Loki, or even reduce or eliminate the SHIELD aspect (I mean, it's a sacrifice, yes. . . ), or even something else-- but a much cleaner, direct storyline goes a long way toward increasing emotional impact here.
Heimdall was great-- no question. TERRIFIC minimalist power and presence. The racial question is silly, since these beings weren't "created" by the Norsemen anyhow. Was the same issue raised for Asian Hogun?? I mean, that's splitting hairs to the point where you'd have to ask why any of these being even look human at all? Why aren't they all blue octopi, or something?
The actor playing Loki was the most compelling cast member, w/out a doubt. Daught of HB liked him, as well. A complex, layered portrayal of a VERY conflicted individual. The scene in the treasure chamber between he & Odin was about as legitimately Shakespearean as I think I've seen a superhero movie get. It was the pivotal scene in Loki's story arc-- probably my favorite in the film.
Son of HB (who saw it a few days earlier) was HUGELY disappointed in how easily the Destroyer was defeated. Can't say I wholly disagree. It's the DESTROYER for Pete's sake! But still-- you gotta make some concessions to keep the film moving, eh?
Thumbs-up-- no question.
HB
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Post by kidcage on May 25, 2011 18:56:14 GMT -5
Yeah, it was a fun time, and I loved Heimdall in the film.
And loved Hawkeye: "You want me to take the shot? I'm startin' to root for this guy!"
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Post by goldenfist on Jun 14, 2011 15:17:09 GMT -5
Who the heck cares about the Destroyer anyway, It's just a mindless character.
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Post by starfoxxx on Jun 15, 2011 15:06:56 GMT -5
Who the heck cares about the Destroyer anyway, It's just a mindless character. That's how I feel about Bendis. Who the heck cares about the man who tried to destroy the Avengers franchise, while turning the Avengers into mindless Bendis-nonsense-out-of-character-speaking idiots? He's just a mindless hack.
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Post by spiderwasp on Jun 15, 2011 19:31:23 GMT -5
Who the heck cares about the Destroyer anyway, It's just a mindless character. That's how I feel about Bendis. Who the heck cares about the man who tried to destroy the Avengers franchise, while turning the Avengers into mindless Bendis-nonsense-out-of-character-speaking idiots? He's just a mindless hack. I get what your saying but even though I don't care one whit for the Destroyer (Bendis), I care greatly about what he destroyed.
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Post by goldenfist on Jun 15, 2011 22:31:40 GMT -5
Bendis had nothing to do with the movie starfoxx.
I was talking about the Destroyer not Bendis.
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Post by humanbelly on Jun 17, 2011 8:07:29 GMT -5
Bendis had nothing to do with the movie starfoxx. I was talking about the Destroyer not Bendis. I'm pretty sure that BMB's name was indeed included in the movie credits-- part of a group of about four Marvel Enterprises consultant-types. Hard to tell at all how much he'd actually directly contribute at that status-level, though. But considering he's Mr.Avengers, and that the movie is part of the huge Avengers movie project (with entire careers riding on its success, I'm sure), I can see where his input would carry some weight. The Destroyer, I agree, was not particularly effective in this film-- and HB-Son found it a major disappointment. You're right, GF-- you can hardly even call it a character at all, because it's mindless. It is nothing more than a rather cool-looking, magic-fueled, killer robot-- which really just means it's a big, powerful weapon of mass destruction (or assassination, if needed). The only thing that has ever made it an interesting device for me in Thor's book over the years is the fact that it supposedly CANNOT BE BEATEN in conventional battle-- by Thor or anyone. So every time it gets loose there's the possibility that Thor could really lose this time, and he's going to take a horrendous, uncharacteristic pounding at the very least. But here, once Thor is resuscitated & reunited w/ his hammer, it's a brief, conventional "tough" skirmish, and then the robot is dispatched. Extremely poor use of what should be an A-level threat. And a perfect example of a valid criticism of the film (and lots of superhero films, in fact): the oft-mentioned "Let's pack one more cool, big thing into the plot, Dude!" syndrome. Something like the Destroyer either needs to be the focus of the entire plot, or else it needs to not be used at all. If my reaction at the resolution of what should be an epic battle is, "That's it-?", then there are seriously bad judgments being made up and down the line of the entire creative process. (Climactic last battle in Iron Man 2-- showdown with Rhodey & Tony facing Whiplash-guy? Perfect example. Really damaged an otherwise enjoyable enough film.) HB
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Post by Marvel Boy on Oct 14, 2012 0:47:41 GMT -5
First things first, really loved this film, felt it captured very well the spirit and feel of the comic Thor. There were a couple of nitpicks (the Destroyer should have wiped that town off the map) but the family relationship of Odin-Thor-Loki, along with his burgeoning relationship with Jane, provided a strong anchor for a fun film. That being said, came across this nugget the other day: www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=41580Seems Malekith is ready to wage war upon the Nine Realms. So Be It. ;D
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