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Post by Shiryu on May 19, 2010 7:27:08 GMT -5
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kidcage
Reservist Avenger
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Post by kidcage on May 19, 2010 14:21:10 GMT -5
I have to second the love for #16. Something about watching all the Avengers pretty much fall, and the Hawkeye's distraught over losing Mockingbird, and then cheats Grandmaster to bring everyone back was a shining moment. And I think that it getting down to Cap and Hawkeye was just kind of a nice touch.
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Post by scottharris on May 19, 2010 20:23:28 GMT -5
Annual #16 is One of my favorite stories ever.
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Post by Shiryu on May 26, 2010 8:20:17 GMT -5
I think having the Avengers die is one thing that makes annual 16 so special. Most times characters either die in some big event and/or killed by cosmic beings (like Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet) or all together in apocalyptic what-if stories. Here they died one by one, in battle, some of them simply slain by normally more or less harmless foes (Captain Marvel being killed by the Green Goblin was a surprise for example).
And then there is that ending, with Hawkeye cheating and tricking the Grandmaster. It's just a panel, but I'd put it among his greatest moments, the way he smiles all the time as he tempts the GM into accepting the game.
On a side note, how many of those "dead" characters were really not dead after all? Bucky and the Green Goblin were so good they even tricked the Grandmaster and Death ^^
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Post by bobc on May 28, 2010 14:47:02 GMT -5
My secret shame is that I cannot remember one thing about this issue other than Hawkeye tricking the Grandmaster.
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Post by owene on May 30, 2010 16:37:38 GMT -5
You get the impression with this one that they went for Legion of the Dead members who were considered unresurrectable at the time either as a treat to the fans or just to save themselves a headache later on. Most of them still came back though.
It's a good annual, one of the best things I've read by Tom DeFalco as well as one of the best uses of the old JLA/JSA split up and go battle X chapter format i can think of in the M.U. nice art as well.
Not sure it would be my all time fave annual, although i can't think of many great ones that actually work as Avengers stories (7 and 10 have the team a bit overshadowed by other events) but it's a very good issue.
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Post by ultron69 on Feb 10, 2011 8:47:21 GMT -5
I think my favorites are #8 (Perez art, plus I just love the Dr. Spectrum's forgotten prism angle of the story), #10 (Claremont showing why he is the master of writing team battles, plus great art by Golden) and #16 (awesome crossover with the West Coast Avengers - Eackos, Wackos, Death, the Grandmaster, and the Legion of the Unliving! How can anyone not love that?!) ;D
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Post by Marvel Boy on Sept 5, 2012 0:23:00 GMT -5
My favorite annual is #10. Love the split scene cover, terrific story by Claremont and fantastic art by Golden. I was mildly surprised when I saw this reprinted in Essential X-Men Vol. 3. The art looks great in black & white, but owning the original, I must say the coloring really made the art pop here.
I have #6 and remember liking it, but really can't remember that much about what happened in it.
#11 stand out for me because it had the Avengers Charter in the back. First time I'd ever read it.
I think I still have #16. Based on everyone's comments, I'll have to dig it out and re-read it's awesomeness.
What about #7, with Thanos and Capt. Marvel by Starlin? I've never read it but it looks great.
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Post by Crimson Cowl on Sept 5, 2012 2:11:04 GMT -5
7 is definitely a good shout, and Starlin's artwork was dazzling in that -to this day Thanos is considered a major Avengers villain largely because of that and the Marvel 2 in 1 Annual it's tied to (no. 2 IIRC). 7&8 are probably my two favourites. 14, with the skrull storyline (and the zeppelin!) running on from the regular series and the FF crossover, and 23 with John Buscema art and Avengers 50 revisited, are also ones that I have a soft spot for. 9 with the classic Arsenal story is definitely worthy of mention too.
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Post by Marvel Boy on Sept 9, 2012 1:12:08 GMT -5
Hm, after some digging, I do have #16. Until I read the first page, I'd forgotten that it's Part 2 of a story from WCA Annual #2, which I have as well.
But I looked at the first page of that Annual.......the East Coast team vs. the West Coast team....in a game of softball......in full costumes.......in the Astrodome.......with Thor up to hit.....using Mjolnir as a bat.......*SIGH*
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Post by ultron69 on Sept 13, 2012 13:34:47 GMT -5
Great topic! I agree that #16 is great, quite possibly my favorite. Great art, seeing all of those characters on the cover is awesome, and I love the star filled background. I also have a weak spot for Avengers Special #1. I'm sure one reason is that it was one of the very first back issues I ever bought, in fact it was the first old Avengers issue I ever bought, and that is forever imprinted in my brain. I also think it's a fairly dynamic deisgn. It looks like they've just busted through that wall and are ready for action, with Thor pointing Mjolnir forward as if to lead them on. Avengers Special #4 (a lot of great one on one battle in process) and Avengers Annual 7 (Starlin doing Thanos!) are fairly cool, and I also like Avengers Annual 8 because of the George Perez art. At least I’m pretty sure it’ Perez. The art on the cover of Avengers Annual 10 is great, and I love the contents within, but I don’t like the design of the cover. It’s too scattered. Avengers Special #2 and Avengers Annual #15 are pretty good, too.
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Post by fourcolorfigs on Nov 26, 2013 15:10:15 GMT -5
I consider Avengers Annual #10 to be one of my all-time favorite Avengers tales, and I think it's great Claremont had a chance to get back at Jim Shooter for Avengers #200--a hideous ill done to a great character like Ms. Marvel.
And the Michael Golden artwork is superb!
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