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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 21, 2007 5:12:27 GMT -5
Seriously, I'm amazed no-one commenterd on it, at least not that i could see. I feel it definitely deserves a thread of it's own and just about made my week after being immensely let down by what I am officialy declaring the most inane, incomprehensible and uneventful World War ever at the Distinguished Competition.
...I guess it's because most of our old-timers weren't reading it but the first and most significent thing I noticed about Mighty Avengers #2 was this on the "Story So Far" page...
And there came a day unlike any other, when Earth's Mightiest heroes and heroines found themselves united against a common threat. On that day, the Avengers were born to fight the foes no single hero could withstand!
At last they have gotten rid of this "It was the worst day in Avengers history" nonsense and brought back the true intro. The circle is complete, and Bendis has achieved a miracle, I am now fully under the belief that these ARE a classic Avengers team.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 21, 2007 6:47:13 GMT -5
We're all happy for you Doom. Because we all know you were against Bendis all this time  ;D |
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 21, 2007 7:03:11 GMT -5
Actually, as I believe my posts have made clear I was thoroughlly unhappy with New Avengers between 5 or so and 25 (Just much less so than most), I felt he wrote some of the worst Civil War tie-in issues and was among the most biased writers of the entire event, and I feel Avengers Disassembled was a colossal trainwreck of an appaling story which is among the worst Avengers stories in a decade.
I know you only joined a month or two ago so I don't blame you for not knowing but yeah, I was pretty d**n unhappy with him prior to this miraculous turn of events circa Mighty Avengers 1 and New Avengers 27.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 21, 2007 7:45:09 GMT -5
see, I'm still sure that Bendis got to you somehow.
You didn't take one of those blue pills that Iron Fist mentioned in NA did you?
Please tell me you aren't an Irish ninja.
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Post by redstatecap on Apr 21, 2007 10:28:04 GMT -5
If only the renaissance went further than the introductory paragraph!
RSC
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 21, 2007 10:42:58 GMT -5
Glad an introduction's all it takes for you to be "fully under the belief that these ARE a classic Avengers team", Doom...
But then, you also said you could always enjoy NA as long as you pretended it wasn't the Avengers... Ladies & gentlemen: I present to you the Master at having his cake & eating it too...!!! (Drum rolls, please...).
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Post by balok on Apr 21, 2007 11:59:48 GMT -5
Well. They've restored the introductory paragraph. Is that papering over the cracks, or gold plating a t**d? I'm not sure...  |
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 21, 2007 14:50:00 GMT -5
Well. They've restored the introductory paragraph. Is that papering over the cracks, or gold plating a t**d? I'm not sure... why would you gold plate a toad? |
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 21, 2007 16:41:07 GMT -5
Glad an introduction's all it takes for you to be "fully under the belief that these ARE a classic Avengers team", Doom... Way to misquote me! I've made very clear I felt this team was a return to the classic routes and issues 1 and 2 basically convinced me of this. The intro completed the circle. Well, yes. I'm not allowed to enjoy a classic Avengers title AND a non-Avengers title? Of course, such a thing is blasphemy! |
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Post by balok on Apr 21, 2007 16:52:15 GMT -5
why would you gold plate a toad? Because it quickly and easily improves the appearance - the plates can be easily attached with ribbets! |
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Post by Black Knight on Apr 23, 2007 8:12:42 GMT -5
Glad an introduction's all it takes for you to be "fully under the belief that these ARE a classic Avengers team", Doom... Way to misquote me! I've made very clear I felt this team was a return to the classic routes and issues 1 and 2 basically convinced me of this. The intro completed the circle. Well, yes. I'm not allowed to enjoy a classic Avengers title AND a non-Avengers title? Of course, such a thing is blasphemy! Well it could be because two issues does not prove anything and the other title say AVENGERS on the cover in big letters. Just my guess. LOL |
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 23, 2007 10:41:59 GMT -5
Two issues does prove something, if you have strong enough opinions about them. One issue was apparantly enough for half this forum to swear off Mighty Avengers- Hell, NO ISSUES was enough for some  |
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Post by balok on Apr 23, 2007 11:02:25 GMT -5
Two issues does prove something, if you have strong enough opinions about them. One issue was apparantly enough for half this forum to swear off Mighty Avengers- Hell, NO ISSUES was enough for some In my case, at least, it would be correct to say over two dozen issues. I saw issue #1, which I regarded as weaker than New Avenegers #1, by the same writer. In over two dozen issues of New Avengers, the quality took an elevator ride to hell. I see no reason to take that same ride a second time. Yes, the history of a writer IS an important qualifier. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. |
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Post by Bored Yesterday on Apr 23, 2007 11:14:23 GMT -5
I saw this issue at the grocery store, and almost bought it. I picked it up, and leafed through it, and I had just about convinced myself it was worth 3 bucks, but then I saw it was 4 bucks! Forget about it.
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Post by Black Knight on Apr 23, 2007 12:05:34 GMT -5
Two issues does prove something, if you have strong enough opinions about them. One issue was apparantly enough for half this forum to swear off Mighty Avengers- Hell, NO ISSUES was enough for some Actuall the no issues is based on previous work.. That is how you decide if you want something. You are not saying that you love MA in two issues, that would be fine with me, each to his/her own. You are saying that is the classic avengers and that two issues proved that. That is what I question. |
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Post by dlw66 on Apr 23, 2007 12:37:43 GMT -5
Two issues does prove something, if you have strong enough opinions about them. One issue was apparantly enough for half this forum to swear off Mighty Avengers- Hell, NO ISSUES was enough for some Amen, my brother -- I am he!! |
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 23, 2007 16:39:35 GMT -5
Okay, Doom: so lets say you buy Stephen King's novels & you keep on doing it even though, overall, you don't like them... I mean, at what point, in your opinion, are you allowed to say: "Enough is enough... I don't care for this guy's style, or themes, or both... I don't care that he's America's best selling novelist... That's it for me...!".
I mean, why not allow experience to, at some point, teach us something, right...?
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 23, 2007 16:57:19 GMT -5
BONG!!!
use not the name of King in thine examples!
feel free to use the name of koonts tho'
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 23, 2007 17:04:06 GMT -5
BONG!!! use not the name of King in thine examples! feel free to use the name of koonts tho' Well, Nutcase, calm down..! ;D As I already told you, I'm a fan of the Kingster myself... I just used him as example because his universally known, has already been used as an example tool at this site before and he's the (or one of the) top best selling novelists in America, just like (I suppose...) Bendis is within the comic book universe... |
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Post by Doctor Bong on Apr 23, 2007 17:09:20 GMT -5
I WAS gonna use the example of J. K. Rowling, since it occurred to me that it was an example closer to home for Doom, but I decided against it because she hasn't written as many books as King and therefore I thought such comparison would be somewhat lacking in force...
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Post by uberwolf on Apr 23, 2007 18:24:51 GMT -5
BONG!!! use not the name of King in thine examples! feel free to use the name of koonts tho' There are people out there who do not like the King. I've never been able to make it through one of his novels. His writing style really annoys me. Koonts on the other hand is readable. I'd choose him over King any day of the week and twice on sunday. I'm not saying Koonts is great, but I can stomach most of his work. So there ..... and I have no idea what that has to do with anything, just had to say it. |
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Post by Alchemist-X on Apr 23, 2007 19:18:38 GMT -5
Well it is the best Avengers book out right now in my opinion (Although competition isn't exactly the greatest either, and I'm leaving out YA just because its been on a kinda hiatus for a while now) and its definately the closest to a classic team of all the teams out now, the return of Ultron and the change in the first page could mark a return to a more classic avengers.
As for Bendis NA might have been sketchy, but for USM alone I'll give most of his stuff a shot.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 23, 2007 19:34:57 GMT -5
Koonts on the other hand is readable. I'd choose him over King any day of the week and twice on sunday. I'm not saying Koonts is great, but I can stomach most of his work. You have no right to your own opinion. I take your freedom of taste away from you for misusuing it so badly. Ameriwulf, me and you have to start a whole new website for the argument we now need to have  |
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Post by uberwolf on Apr 23, 2007 21:22:19 GMT -5
Koonts on the other hand is readable. I'd choose him over King any day of the week and twice on sunday. I'm not saying Koonts is great, but I can stomach most of his work. You have no right to your own opinion. I take your freedom of taste away from you for misusuing it so badly. Ameriwulf, me and you have to start a whole new website for the argument we now need to have In the immortal words of the Bard... "Bring it!" |
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 23, 2007 21:26:15 GMT -5
would that be the bard from Bard's Tale?
Sorry I forgot when MacBeth said that to the witches
"I pray thee, bringeth it!"
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Post by Doctor Doom on Apr 24, 2007 10:41:43 GMT -5
Okay, Doom: so lets say you buy Stephen King's novels & you keep on doing it even though, overall, you don't like them... I mean, at what point, in your opinion, are you allowed to say: "Enough is enough... I don't care for this guy's style, or themes, or both... I don't care that he's America's best selling novelist... That's it for me...!". I mean, why not allow experience to, at some point, teach us something, right...? But the thing is; if a new Stephen King novel came out in a different writing style and I liked the idea behind it, I WOULD read it even if I wasn't a fan of the old ones.  |
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Post by balok on Apr 24, 2007 12:22:32 GMT -5
Ameriwulf, me and you have to start a whole new website for the argument we now need to have Yeah, yeah, we're going to need another pallet of drywall and about two dozen more 2x4s over here at Avengers Assemble... Home Depot Guy: Again?!! Whattheheck are you doing over there, eating them? Balok: It's a comic book... no, it's an argu... ah, forget it, you wouldn't understand. Just send the stuff over, and give me the number of that repair contractor again... |
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Post by HarperDJ on Apr 24, 2007 13:08:57 GMT -5
Looking forward to the Ultron Arc. Found out about this some time ago, so I am waiting and very excited to see how Mr. Bendis works with this team.
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Post by Nutcase65 on Apr 25, 2007 8:50:39 GMT -5
why would you gold plate a toad? Because it quickly and easily improves the appearance - the plates can be easily attached with ribbets! OMG, I never saw this post. That is so bad Balok,.. it's truly worthy of me. I'm starting to rub off on some of you folks. I'll give you the contact info for my doctor. |
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