daned
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Post by daned on Mar 25, 2007 8:06:47 GMT -5
Well, I've just finished Civil War. I wasn't able to get to my comic shop for some time so I had a mate pick all that was left of the storyline and I read it in the order that was provided by our wonderful colleague of the boards.
I have a sh*t load to say on the topic and not much time so I just want to say one thing that I hope you ponder over and reply so when I have the time to really get stuck into it, we'll really get going.
And I apologise if what I'm about to say has already been said. I haven't checked the boards for a while (not since I accidentally caught the phrase "Cap's death" at the bottom of a thread).
I figure going by the brief survey on educational standards of the forum user you'll know what an 'avatar' is in a narrative: the character the reader is most supposed to empathise with and go on a journey with. When the avatar has a moment of realisation, the audience is supposed to too. It's used often in comic book movies (Hellboy and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen) to introduce audience members to years of back story.
Was that bird from Civil War: Frontline supposed to be our avatar? Because if she was I'm insulted. How Friggin stupid was she? We're supposed to identify with someone who questions Cap's ability to be a hero because he doesn't have a friggin' Myspace page? Who forgives Stark for starting the whole mess for 'the greater good'?
Discuss
Civil War: Great idea; often poor execution.
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Post by thew40 on Mar 25, 2007 9:27:23 GMT -5
Was that bird from Civil War: Frontline supposed to be our avatar? Because if she was I'm insulted. How Friggin stupid was she? We're supposed to identify with someone who questions Cap's ability to be a hero because he doesn't have a friggin' Myspace page? Who forgives Stark for starting the whole mess for 'the greater good'? If you're referring to Sally, I'd have to say that her character took a real nose-dive to me. If you ever get the chance, I'd advise reading "Generation M" which was where she first appeared. It's there she's portrayed as a much stronger character -- an actual reporter, for goodness sake. Even the first 7-8ish issues of "Frontline" were better at that. Her yelling at Cap was just stupid and in poor taste on all accounts. My Grandpa probably doesn't know what MySpace or YouTube or American Idol winners are, but I still feel like his opinion matters. If they were going to have Sally grill Cap like that, why not demand to know his political ethics? Where does Cap stand on abortion? Gay Rights? Social Security? We certainly know how he feels about civil liberties, but Sally's rant would have been better if she had challenged Cap in regards to other, real-life hot topics. ~W~
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Post by Doctor Doom on Mar 25, 2007 10:58:13 GMT -5
Sally's character was a moron long before her Cap interview. Take, for example her blatant ignorance of fact in order to pursue her own partisan agenda, the fact that she was convinced there were bigger things going on when nothing was and her walking out on the interview of a lifetime in #9. Sally, here's a hint; if you disagree with someone you interview, print the article and heavily imply so, don't decide NOT to do the biggest interview you will ever do.
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Post by Tana Nile on Mar 25, 2007 12:19:53 GMT -5
Civil War: Great idea; often poor execution. That sounds about right.
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Post by balok on Mar 25, 2007 17:51:10 GMT -5
Sally and Ben both betrayed their responsibilities as reporters when they elected not to publish what they learned about Tony's role in the Civil War. They should have published it and let the public decide whether Tony's goals justified his means.
All she did in her interview with Cap is reveal how little *she* understands about what American *really* is.
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Post by thew40 on Mar 26, 2007 19:28:06 GMT -5
Sally and Ben both betrayed their responsibilities as reporters when they elected not to publish what they learned about Tony's role in the Civil War. They should have published it and let the public decide whether Tony's goals justified his means. All she did in her interview with Cap is reveal how little *she* understands about what American *really* is. Balok . . . I agree. ~W~
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Post by Doctor Bong on Mar 26, 2007 22:16:57 GMT -5
Will the wonders never cease... Everybody sems to be playing nice & sharing their toys these days...
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Post by Tana Nile on Mar 26, 2007 22:39:42 GMT -5
Will the wonders never cease... Everybody sems to be playing nice & sharing their toys these days... Shhh, you'll jinx it!!!!
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daned
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Post by daned on Mar 27, 2007 5:24:53 GMT -5
Will the wonders never cease... Everybody sems to be playing nice & sharing their toys these days... Shhh, you'll jinx it!!!! No we won't! And it's brainless, childish, ill-informed tripe like that that provokes bitter recriminations.... woah. I just f**ked it didn't I? (Editting note. I had to go back to my post and edit the f-word. The bad word purifier on the fritz, huh?>
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Post by The Night Phantom on Mar 27, 2007 18:17:41 GMT -5
This has to be the most unsavorily named thread I’ve ever read. I agree with W that Generation M was a more entertaining use of Sally Floyd’s character.
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daned
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Post by daned on Mar 28, 2007 6:48:35 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right about the thread name. I occasionally forget that Australian English is VERY different from American English.
Bloody oath, eh?
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