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Post by Black Knight on Feb 21, 2007 9:47:20 GMT -5
Just saw some spoilers for CW 7. Thought I would post them here. Very disappointing if true.
SPoilers
Cloak teleports everyone outside of Baxter Building.
Clor shows up to help, and Namor shows up to help Cap.
Hercules takes out Clor, and Reed is hurt taking a shot from Tasky meant for Sue.
Cap is about to take out Tony when he's grabbed by a bunch of New York citizens. He sees the damange they casued, orders both sides to stand down, and lets himself be arrested.
50 State initiative goes into place. Cap still has random superhero groups underground. Sue goes back to Reed. Tony becomes head of SHIELD.
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Post by imperiusrex on Feb 21, 2007 13:13:54 GMT -5
hurm. guess we'll all know soon enough. still, the mini doesn't reveal the reason behind civil war, right? that's revealed in another series, isn't it? frontline #11. If I were a big fan that would bug me, that the finale, the reason behind it all was in another book...
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Post by thew40 on Feb 21, 2007 20:59:28 GMT -5
hurm. guess we'll all know soon enough. still, the mini doesn't reveal the reason behind civil war, right? that's revealed in another series, isn't it? frontline #11. If I were a big fan that would bug me, that the finale, the reason behind it all was in another book... I'm a little confused, Rexy. (yes, that's what I'm calling you now) The reason behind what? The entire story? It was the Registration Act. The only big reveal left is who the traitor was in Stark's side. ~W~
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Post by imperiusrex on Feb 21, 2007 21:32:57 GMT -5
hurm. guess we'll all know soon enough. still, the mini doesn't reveal the reason behind civil war, right? that's revealed in another series, isn't it? frontline #11. If I were a big fan that would bug me, that the finale, the reason behind it all was in another book... I'm a little confused, Rexy. (yes, that's what I'm calling you now) The reason behind what? The entire story? It was the Registration Act. The only big reveal left is who the traitor was in Stark's side. ~W~ from marvel's mouth: CIVIL WAR: FRONT LINE #11 (of 11) Written by PAUL JENKINS Penciled by RAMON BACHS Cover by JOHN WATSON Sally Floyd and Ben Urich have the hottest story in Marvel history... and the realization that it can never see print -- the true reasons behind the Civil War. In the aftermath of the Civil War events, they confront Iron Man and the leaders of the Pro-Registration movement with their findings. The reactions will shock you. 40 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99 On-Sale – 2/28/2007 The solicit clearly says and I quote again "the true reasons behind the Civil War." Glad to see that it is so clear to fans of the series... And there's no gray area on this one. either you're wrong or marvel is. Don't really care which it is...
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Post by thew40 on Feb 21, 2007 22:12:00 GMT -5
Dude, I didn't even see that. Not need for the hostility.
"True reasons behind the Civil War?" Hmmmm. Curious. Everything felt wrapped up for the most part.
~W~
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Post by imperiusrex on Feb 21, 2007 22:23:41 GMT -5
Dude, I didn't even see that. Not need for the hostility. "True reasons behind the Civil War?" Hmmmm. Curious. Everything felt wrapped up for the most part. ~W~ just saying I don't care who has it wrong. marvel's had incorrect solicits before. this could be another. but one source of info either you or marvel have it wrong. sorry if my snarky smartassed answer was too much, guess I was just writing my dialogue like Cap from CW #7...
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Post by balok on Feb 23, 2007 9:56:32 GMT -5
Given Iron Man's current approach? If the story is potentially damaging, then he'll put the bag on them until he can program nanites to forbid them from speaking about it, then he'll inject those and let them go. Slavery seems to be his modus operandi these days. Still, I suppose it's better than simply exiling them forever to a tiny cell in the negative zone.
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Post by thew40 on Feb 23, 2007 22:44:10 GMT -5
Given Iron Man's current approach? If the story is potentially damaging, then he'll put the bag on them until he can program nanites to forbid them from speaking about it, then he'll inject those and let them go. Slavery seems to be his modus operandi these days. Still, I suppose it's better than simply exiling them forever to a tiny cell in the negative zone. Did you even read "Civil War?" NONE OF THE HEROES HAD NANITES IN THEM. IRON MAN IS NOT A BAD GUY. Stop being so d**n cynical. ~W~
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Post by balok on Feb 24, 2007 17:05:45 GMT -5
NONE OF THE HEROES HAD NANITES IN THEM. Not yet. And they won't, until they refuse some order from an Initiative commander, which would make them a villain under the terms of the act (per Slott, the Act constitutes a draft). Then nanites could be injected. Keep Lord Acton in mind: power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts, absolutely. If Tony follows the usual pattern of people in power, sooner or later he'll get around to using nanites more broadly. IRON MAN IS NOT A BAD GUY. Stop being so d**n cynical. In my view, he is. I have explained why elsewhere, in particular on the Civil War #7 thread, and you may even have read some of that, so I'll refrain from reiterating here. I certainly wouldn't want to affirm Doc Doom's apparent opinion that we "haters" only post to see our cynical writing light the monitors of the membership. You're free to disagree. If I am cynical about Marvel, it is because the stories they are telling have made me so. I was not always that way.
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Post by Yellowjacket on Feb 28, 2007 7:46:02 GMT -5
hurm. guess we'll all know soon enough. still, the mini doesn't reveal the reason behind civil war, right? that's revealed in another series, isn't it? frontline #11. If I were a big fan that would bug me, that the finale, the reason behind it all was in another book... It did indeed bug me... Though I´m buying Frontline too and therefore know the disclosure storyline therein, I think it should have happenend in the main series. But then, maybe it will be another groaner... (though I´m still hoping for a good one).
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Post by balok on Feb 28, 2007 11:01:05 GMT -5
Given all the build-up for Frontline #11, I can't see how the revelation could be anything except a huge disappointment, simply because in my experience, *everything* hyped to that degree disappoints. But we'll see today, I suppose...
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Post by Tana Nile on Feb 28, 2007 11:37:11 GMT -5
Maybe I missed it, but what happened to the storyline started in Wolverine where Wolvie discovered that Damage Control had given Nitro some sort of drug to boost his powers, and was doing the same with other villains? Has this been resolved anywhere?
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Post by balok on Feb 28, 2007 13:39:38 GMT -5
Maybe I missed it, but what happened to the storyline started in Wolverine where Wolvie discovered that Damage Control had given Nitro some sort of drug to boost his powers, and was doing the same with other villains? Has this been resolved anywhere? I remember reading about this, somewhere - their idea was to increase the collateral damage and therefore their income. But I think that was a promo blurb or a message board. I don't recall reading an actual book that said this, but I haven't read all the Marvel Books, or even all the Civil War crossover books.
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Post by thew40 on Feb 28, 2007 15:45:01 GMT -5
Maybe I missed it, but what happened to the storyline started in Wolverine where Wolvie discovered that Damage Control had given Nitro some sort of drug to boost his powers, and was doing the same with other villains? Has this been resolved anywhere? I remember reading about this, somewhere - their idea was to increase the collateral damage and therefore their income. But I think that was a promo blurb or a message board. I don't recall reading an actual book that said this, but I haven't read all the Marvel Books, or even all the Civil War crossover books. Basically that's what happened. Also, Namor captured Nitro and took him to Atlantis for judgement. ~W~
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Post by Doctor Bong on Feb 28, 2007 18:04:48 GMT -5
I wonder what happens with Cap's shield... Does he still have it by the last panel he appears on of the issue...?
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